They saw us coming!

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rockytopva

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I believe that...

1. Sometimes before the big bang, or the creation of the universe - Lucifer rebels in heaven, taking a third of the angels with him.
2. After the big bang, or the creation of the universe - The universe expands out from a point of origin. I believe that here Lucifer senses that a species will be created to replace his vacated position.
3. At some point he sees and understands the timeline of earth...

And the devil, taking him (Christ Jesus) up into an high mountain, shewed unto him all the kingdoms of the world in a moment of time. - Luke 4:5

If Lucifer can see that far into earth's future, I believe that he saw we human's coming before the creation of Earth. And he thinks he has us human folk all figured out...

1 Again there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the Lord, and Satan came also among them to present himself before the Lord.
2 And the Lord said unto Satan, From whence comest thou? And Satan answered the Lord, and said, From going to and fro in the earth, and from walking up and down in it.
3 And the Lord said unto Satan, Hast thou considered my servant Job, that there is none like him in the earth, a perfect and an upright man, one that feareth God, and escheweth evil? and still he holdeth fast his integrity, although thou movedst me against him, to destroy him without cause.
4 And Satan answered the Lord, and said, Skin for skin, yea, all that a man hath will he give for his life.
5 But put forth thine hand now, and touch his bone and his flesh, and he will curse thee to thy face.
6 And the Lord said unto Satan, Behold, he is in thine hand; but save his life. - Job 2

If I had to arrange things in a timeline...

15+ billion years - Lucifer rebels taking a third of the angels
15 billion years - Big bang, or creation of the universe
4000 BC - God divides the light from the darkness, the earth is formed and inhabited six days after.
0 BC - 32 AD - The life and sacrifice of Christ Jesus
2060 AD - The return of Christ with his saints (I have got to go with Isaac Newton here)
3071 AD - The final battle after a millennial of peace.

Please note... Times are approximate.

Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them. Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time. - Revelation 12:12

I have often thought that it is too bad that we human's are born into innocency, unaware of all of that! I believe that we are in a battle with fallen angels over their vacated positions!
 

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Luke 4:5 need not support the Idea of Satan being able to see the future. Even in that day the Kingdoms of the earth were many, and it would have taken a significant amount of time to visit them all. It is significant that Satan showed them to Jesus all at once, even if they were the present day kingdoms.

It also raises many questions: Why would Satan have tempted Jesus if he knew he was going to be resisted? He would cease to be the roaring lion, and become the sniper with perfect aim.
 

pom2014

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The adversary is not Lucifer. That was purposely placed in by Jerome. The correct name is heylel.

And no the enemy cannot see into the future.