Thoughts on Israel/Hezbollah War

[Christina]

The cease fire seems to be in more jeopardy of collapsing by the day

 

[BernieEOD]

In this case, Isreal violated the cease fire. I doubt that the enemy would agree to a cease fire that forbid them to re supply. If it is ok for the IDF to fire on thier supply convoys, then Hizbollah would be allowed to fire on our C-5's delivering our weapons to Isreal.To demand surrender without defeat is unrealistic. Either continue the war or abide by the cease fire.

 

[Christina]

Wrong !!! Bernie resoulotion 1701 says Hezbolla can not re-arm and must disarm and that Israel can take DEFENSIVE ACTION since the troops from the U.N. are not in place to stop Syria from re-arming Hezbolla Israel was operating within the U.N resoulution to stop this arms shippment.

 

[BernieEOD]

To demand surrender without defeat is unrealistic. This is not the same IDF that won the 6 day war. When the fight gets fair, the IDF retreats. We have become too soft. Unless we have air and armor against unarmed or lightly armed people, we cannot fight. besides, You cannot make a rifleman out of a Sarah Brady welfare wimp. So we use .22 cal poodle shooters that are only good for killing unarmed civilians.As far as UN resolutions are concerned, we have a nasty habbit of holding up the ones we like and ignoring the ones we don't. You are demanding surrender without defeat and don't have the guts to defeat the enemy.

 

[Christina]

US plans new resolution on disarming Hizbullah--------------------------------------------------------------------------------Associated Press, THE JERUSALEM POST Aug. 21, 2006 --------------------------------------------------------------------------------The United States is planning to introduce a new UN resolution on disarming Hizbullah in southern Lebanon but US Ambassador John Bolton said Monday this should not hold up the quick deployment of UN peacekeepers. A new Security Council resolution could help break the impasse over getting an expanded UN force on the ground quickly. Countries that are potential troop contributors have expressed concern about the rules of engagement - and exactly what troops would be required to do, especially regarding the disarming of Hizbullah. "I think the initial force can be deployed now," Bolton told reporters. "We want the disarming of Hizbullah to be accomplished rapidly so that the democratically elected government of Lebanon can establish full control over its territory."

 

[BernieEOD]

UN Resolutions carry little weight.Good luck trying to disarm them. Hizbollah has enough seats in the Lebanese Parlament to block any governemnt reolution to disarm them.What is it about democracy? Where in the Bible deos it call for that?For that matter, where in the Bible is "The will of the people" ever spoken of in a favorable light much less called for.The "Will of the people" is usually to have something for nothing. We like to blame our governemtn for everything but the message our representatives are getting is rather mixed.- Abundant gas at a cheap price without any oil driling off our own coasts or in our own back yard.- Abundant electricity ar low rates without any smoke stacks or nuclear power plants- A 9000 lb. slab faced Hummer that will get 50 MPG while going 80 MPH.- A war without any crimp on their lifestyle and as long as somebody else goes over there and does the dying.We wanr Deocracy? We got Hezbollah in Lebanon and Hamas in the West Bank. "The people" will not always vote for us to move in and impose our ways upon them.

 

[Christina]

SYRIA'S NEW 'HEZBOLLAH' GROUP TRAINING FOR ATTACKSAugust 24, 2006WorldNetDaily.com reports: “Following what it views as a Hezbollah victory against the Jewish state, Syria is forming its own Hezbollah-like guerrilla organization to fight Israel in hopes of ‘liberating’ the Golan Heights, according to a report aired yesterday on state-run Iranian television.Last week, WorldNetDaily broke the story Syria is in the process of forming what an official from Syrian President Bashar Assad's Baath Party called the Front for the Liberation of the Golan Heights, a new ‘resistance’ group that models itself after Hezbollah.The official told WND the Front will attempt attacks to force Israel from the Golan Heights, strategic mountainous territory captured by the Jewish state after Syria used the terrain to attack Israel in 1967 and again in 1973. The Heights borders Israel, Syria and Lebanon and is claimed by Damascus.Al-Alam Iranian television yesterday featured an interview with a man who identified himself as the leader of the new Front for the Liberation of the Golan Heights. The man, whose features were blocked out, said his new group consists of ‘hundreds’ of fighters who are currently training for guerilla-like raids against Israeli positions in and near the Golan. He claimed the Front has opened several training camps inside Syria.Last week, the Baath party official, speaking on condition of anonymity, told WND Syria learned from Hezbollah's military campaign against Israel the past month that ‘fighting’ is more effective than peace negotiations with regard to gaining territory. He said Syria's new guerilla force would be trained by Hezbollah leaders.‘Syria is very serious about establishing this new guerilla force,’ the official said…”

 

[Christina]

IDF: Syria will try to reclaim Golan IDF Intelligence Chief Maj.-Gen. Amos Yadlin tells Knesset committee that in aftermath of Lebanon war Syria will try to reclaim Golan Heights through either diplomatic or military means; adds: Iran using Syria as giant weapons cache for HizbullahAttila SomfalviThe head of the Israel Defense Forces Military Intelligence Maj.-Gen. Amos Yadlin told the Knesset Foreign Affairs and Defense Committee that after the war with Hizbullah, Syria will try to reclaim the Golan Heights through either diplomatic or military means. Yadlin said that Hizbullah is trying to improve its image among the population in southern Lebanon by offering Iranian-funneled financial compensation for damaged property.He said Iran is deeply involved with Hizbullah, and is training Hizbullah members in a number of military areas, as well as funding, and providing orders to the organization. "Iran is using Syria as a giant weapons cache for Hizbullah – through direct transfer or via payment to the Syrians, so that the arms are sent to Hizbullah," Yadlin said. He added that the Syrian army has returned to a normal state of alert, after it was raised during fighting between the IDF and Hizbullah in Lebanon. Although Iran's involvement wasn't hidden, Yadlin turned the attention of the committee to Hizbullah's preference Syrian, rather than Iranian weapons. "Most of the Katyusha rockets, except for the long-term missiles (Zelzal) were from the Syrian, not the Iranian arsenal," he said.Yadlin said Syria began gradually reducing the state of alert of its forces a number of days after the ceasefire declaration, and that the army is currently at a normal state of alert.He added that Syria has hoped to use the crisis to increase its regional relevance, and that it was "disappointed by the end outcome of the war which did not include it."With that, Syria is satisfied with Syria's management and is encouraging the organization to resist being disarmed. Syria is attempting to take away operative lessons from the way Hizbullah managed its war against Israel. 'Hizbullah is continuing to arm itself'Yadlin said the speech of Syrian President Basher Assad showed a will to create relevance. "Assad presented his view according to which 'the resistance' and force bring results against Israel. He emphasized his wish for peace as a strategic choice, but also said that it could be reached via a number of ways – one of them through 'resistance.' His comments regarding 'resistance' began before the war in south Lebanon, and the war gave another push to these expressions." Yadlin said Hizbullah is continuing to arm itself and is trying to recover its stance among the population of south Lebanon through rebuilding their homes with Iranian money. In Israel, there is concern that the Syrians are continuing to pass on arms to Hizbullah and are hoping that the multi-national force will monitor the border passages. It was reported Thursday that containers were transferred from the Latakia and Tartus ports in Syria to south Lebanon. Regarding the Palestinian arena, Yadlin said that terrorism and attempts to carry out "quality" attacks from Gaza have not ceased, and that preferred targets are border crossings. He said Hizbullah formed a model for the Palestinians. "They know that they are still far from reaching the goal, but certainly they are striving to increase their striking capability in Israel. Therefore large amounts of standard explosives are being smuggled in, through which terror organizations plan to increase the heads of the Qassam rockets, and they are working to increase the range of the rockets," he said.

 

[BernieEOD]

Hizbollah are not Arabs. Iran is not an Arab country. It is Persian. A different people with a different way of fighting. It would appear that Hizbolah does not rely on the "Arab offhand" or the "CNN Coruch" or "Allah be my eyes" shooting tactics that thier Arab counterparts do. As a result, a Hizbollah fighter is on par with an IDF Soldier and without the advantage of air, armor, and artillery, the IDF cannot prvail against Hizbollah. As one IDF SOldier stated. "We expected to be like a hot knofe through butter, insread we were like a dull blade through chewing gum". Hizbollah has come up with a sound doctrine for fighting a western army with air, armor, and artillery superiority and it is going to spell trouble.

 

[Christina]

Arab is a common term for middle eastern descent and they have all enter mixed for thousands of years there is no longer any difference between an arab from persia or Jordanor Saudia araba or any other arab country except maybe the Lebonize they even call themselves arabs.they aren't good fighters they are cowards because they have no respect for life,not even their own they martyar themselfs for 72 virgins this is Anti-God so any God fearing person that defends the Hezbolla and Islamic Radicals (not the inocent Arab peoples) is on the wrong side.And in danger of bringing down Gods wrath upon their heads.

 

[BernieEOD]

I wouldn't call an Iranian an Arab, those are fighting words. Hizbollah has just proven themselves against the IDF.As far as "Good fighters" are concerned our nation of "Sarah Brady we;fare wimps" are only "Good" as long as we have ait power, armor, and artillery and the enemy doesn't.As far as Respect for life is concerned, the USAF has murdered more civilians than all of the so called Arab terrorist organizations combined. Add the fact that our own abortion clinics kill 1.2 million babies a year, we are hardly in any position to talk about how "They" have no respect for life.

 

[BernieEOD]

they aren't good fighters they are cowards (Quote)The average American is a Sarah Brady welfare wimp who wouldn't know which ened of a gun to point at the enemy. Do you think you or any other avcerage American can do better?

 

[Jerusalem Junkie]

Denver any short term long term peace agreement is a waste of time. These people have no intention of honoring any agreement be it with Israel or Egypt. Their main goal is hurt and destroy the US and Israel together or one at the time. Egypt has already warned that another breech of the blockade it would use force if necessary.