To understand Christianity, you must understand Judaism

[Grailhunter]

Jews were not totally bad as you seem to want to make them to be.

After mentioning Jews who were failures?
You neglected something else.

God chose and used Jews to write the New Testament.
God used chose and used Jews to spread the Gospel in the early days of the Church.

Whys that?

Never used the word bad. The Jews are great. They just messed up.

They were expecting things from God they did not get. And so some would chase after false gods.
Yahweh told them that it would be good for them to go to Egypt and when they got there they were enslaved.
The Old Testament spans about 3600 years, if God was not right on top of them they would drift. They were enslaved and captured and their Temple destroyed and kingdoms fell.

The twelve chosen Apostles and disciples formed the first Christian sect that were Jewish-Christians. This sect was initially formed by Yeshua while it was still the Old Covenant......The New Covenant started when he passed on the cross....So they followed a lot of the Jewish rules and customs.

 

[GeneZ]

Never used the word bad. The Jews are great. They just messed up.

They were expecting things from God they did not get. And so some would chase after false gods.
Yahweh told them that it would be good for them to go to Egypt and when they got there they were enslaved.
The Old Testament spans about 3600 years, if God was not right on top of them they would drift. They were enslaved and captured and their Temple destroyed and kingdoms fell.

The twelve chosen Apostles and disciples formed the first Christian sect that were Jewish-Christians. This sect was initially formed by Yeshua while it was still the Old Covenant......The New Covenant started when he passed on the cross....So they followed a lot of the Jewish rules and customs.

The Cross itself was the ultimate fulfillment of Jewish Law, to be for the benefit of all.
If it were not for Jewish Law we would not today be using the term "blood of Christ."
It was all Jewish thinking.

Gentiles have now been engrafted by God into the Jewish way for thinking concerning our salvation.

The Church then entered both Jew and Gentile into the new way of spiritual being and thinking… ending the past concept of there being Jews and Gentiles.

 

[GeneZ]

The Talmud was written in an attempt to restore faith in their religion and make adjustments in relation to the Torah.

Unless the Temple and the priesthood were restored?
All attempts to restore that faith as it had been will be in vain.
They can not do it.
In the meanwhile, God has them surviving. So that when the right time comes?
Israel will be restored in the New Earth. Restored for their delegated human leadership during the Millennial Reign of Christ.

There will be genuine Jews once again on earth.
The Church at that time will have been transported to Heaven, only to commute to earth to help with the Lord ruling over the new earth.

Jews then will once again be real Jews. And the Jews will be God's big brother to the Gentile nations on earth at that time.

Here is a prophecy to that effect.

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This is what the Lord Almighty says: “In those days ten people from all languages and nations ​

will take firm hold of one Jew by the hem of his robe and say, ‘Let us go with you, because we ​

have heard that God is with you." Zechariah 8:23​

During the Millennium Jesus will be seated on the Throne of David in Jerusalem over the Jews.
He will have returned to do as He promised he would.
To be the King of the Jews, and oversee the entire world from His throne.


God is not done with the Jews!

 

[Grailhunter]

The Cross itself was the ultimate fulfillment of Jewish Law, to be for the benefit of all.
If it were not for Jewish Law we would not today be using the term "blood of Christ."
It was all Jewish thinking.

Gentiles have now been engrafted by God into the Jewish way for thinking concerning our salvation.

The Church then entered both Jew and Gentile into the new way of spiritual being and thinking… ending the past concept of there being Jews and Gentiles.

ending the past concept of there being Jews and Gentiles????? There are still Jews, Pagans, and unbelievers.
And the concept of blood atonement....
And surely I will require your lifeblood; from every beast I will require it. And from every man, from every man’s brother I will require the life of man. Genesis 9:5
And according to the Law, one may almost say, all things are cleansed with blood, and without shedding of blood there is no forgiveness. Hebrews 9:22
For it is impossible for the blood of bulls and goats to take away sins. Hebrews 10:4
Only the blood of Yeshua can cover and forgive our sins.

 

[Grailhunter]

Unless the Temple and the priesthood were restored?
All attempts to restore that faith as it had been will be in vain.
They can not do it.
In the meanwhile, God has them surviving. So that when the right time comes?
Israel will be restored in the New Earth. Restored for their delegated human leadership during the Millennial Reign of Christ.

There will be genuine Jews once again on earth.
The Church at that time will have been transported to Heaven, only to commute to earth to help with the Lord ruling over the new earth.

Jews then will once again be real Jews. And the Jews will be God's big brother to the Gentile nations on earth at that time.

Here is a prophecy to that effect.

​

This is what the Lord Almighty says: “In those days ten people from all languages and nations ​

will take firm hold of one Jew by the hem of his robe and say, ‘Let us go with you, because we ​

have heard that God is with you." Zechariah 8:23​

During the Millennium Jesus will be seated on the Throne of David in Jerusalem over the Jews.
He will have returned to do as He promised he would.
To be the King of the Jews, and oversee the entire world from His throne.


God is not done with the Jews!

The new earth beliefs are in the Bible but I do not think God is done with the Jews.

 

[GeneZ]

For it is impossible for the blood of bulls and goats to take away sins. Hebrews 10:4

Hebrews was a final warning letter to the Jewish believers living in Jerusalem.
These apostate Jewish believers were returning to the sacrifices in the Temple
And, in doing so? Were making a mockery of the Blood of Christ.
That is what Hebrew 6:4-6 was written about.

It is impossible for those who have once been enlightened, who have tasted the heavenly gift, ​

who have shared in the Holy Spirit, who have tasted the goodness of the word of God and the ​

powers of the coming age and who have fallen away, to be brought back to repentance. ​

To their loss they are crucifying the Son of God all over again and subjecting him to public disgrace.​

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That passage was not about losing salvation as some try to tell us.
It was about Jewish believers entering into the apostasy trying to live by the old way.
That they have become so delusional because of their blind religious fervor, that it had become impossible for them to repent
and accept the Cross as the true means for the forgiveness of sins.

By sacrificing animals it became a mockery of Jesus' Work on the Cross.
And, in effect, were symbolically crucifying Jesus afresh

"To their loss they are crucifying the Son of God all over again and subjecting him to public disgrace."​

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As a result of this widespread apostasy in Jerusalem, God had Jerusalem and the Temple destroyed by Rome in 70AD.

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Grace and peace!

 

[Grailhunter]

Hebrews was a final warning letter to the Jewish believers living in Jerusalem.
These apostate Jewish believers were returning to the sacrifices in the Temple
And, in doing so? Were making a mockery of the Blood of Christ.
That is what Hebrew 6:4-6 was written about.

Keep in mind that the Apostles and other Jewish-Christians were still following "parts" of the Mosaic Law.....worshipping and sacrificing in the Temple.

It is impossible for those who have once been enlightened, who have tasted the heavenly gift, who have shared in the Holy Spirit, who have tasted the goodness of the word of God and the powers of the coming age and who have fallen away, to be brought back to repentance. To their loss they are crucifying the Son of God all over again and subjecting him to public disgrace.That passage was not about losing salvation as some try to tell us.
It was about Jewish believers entering into the apostasy trying to live by the old way.
That they have become so delusional because of their blind religious fervor, that it had become impossible for them to repent
and accept the Cross as the true means for the forgiveness of sins.

Can you find a scripture that say this scripture does not mean a person can lose their salvation. In fact this scripture proves that a person can lose their salvation.

1. Hebrews 6:4-6: "For it is impossible, in the case of those who have once been enlightened... and then have fallen away, to restore them again to repentance." This verse warns that falling away after receiving the truth may lead to an irreversible spiritual state, highlighting the seriousness of maintaining faith.
2. Matthew 7:21-23 “Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. Many will say to me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name and in your name drive out demons and in your name perform many miracles?’ Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!’
3. 2 Peter 2:20-21: "For if, after they have escaped the defilements of the world... they are again entangled in them and overcome, the last state has become worse for them than the first." This passage illustrates the grave consequences of returning to sin after knowing the truth.
4. Hebrews 10:26-27: "If we deliberately keep on sinning after we have received the knowledge of the truth, no sacrifice for sins is left." This warns that continued, unrepentant sin can jeopardize one's salvation.
5. 1 John 5:13: "I write these things to you who believe in the name of the Son of God so that you may know that you have eternal life." This verse reassures believers of their eternal security, emphasizing that true faith leads to everlasting life.

2nd Corinthians 5:10: For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ, that each one may be recompensed for his deeds in the body, according to what he has done, whether good or bad..

Matthew 18:9 And if your eye causes you to sin, pluck it out and cast it from you. It is better for you to enter into life with one eye, rather than having two eyes, to be cast into hell fire.

Philippians 2:12 So then, my beloved, just as you have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, work out your salvation with fear and trembling;

1st Corinthians 6:9-10 “Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals, nor thieves, nor the greedy, nor those habitually drunk, nor verbal abusers, nor swindlers, will inherit the kingdom of God”

Galatians 5:19-21 Now the deeds of the flesh are evident, which are: sexual immorality, impurity, indecent behavior, idolatry, witchcraft, hostilities, strife, jealousy, outbursts of anger, selfish ambition, dissensions, factions, envy, drunkenness, carousing, and things like these, of which I forewarn you, just as I have forewarned you, that those who practice such things will not inherit the kingdom of God.

Ephesians 5:3-5 But among you there must not be even a hint of sexual immorality, or of any kind of impurity, or of greed, because these are improper for God’s holy people. Nor should there be obscenity, foolish talk or coarse joking, which are out of place, but rather thanksgiving. For of this you can be sure: No immoral, impure or greedy person—such a person is an idolater—has any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and of God.

John 5:28-29 Do not marvel at this; for an hour is coming, in which all who are in the tombs will hear His voice, and will come forth; those who did the good deeds to a resurrection of life, those who committed the evil deeds to a resurrection of judgment.

Romans 2:5-6 But because of your stubbornness and unrepentant heart you are storing up wrath for yourself in the day of wrath and revelation of the righteous judgment of God, who will render to each person according to his deeds:

 

[GeneZ]

Keep in mind that the Apostles and other Jewish-Christians were still following "parts" of the Mosaic Law.....worshipping and sacrificing in the Temple.



Can you find a scripture that say this scripture does not mean a person can lose their salvation. In fact this scripture proves that a person can lose their salvation.

1. Hebrews 6:4-6: "For it is impossible, in the case of those who have once been enlightened... and then have fallen away, to restore them again to repentance." This verse warns that falling away after receiving the truth may lead to an irreversible spiritual state, highlighting the seriousness of maintaining faith.
2. Matthew 7:21-23 “Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. Many will say to me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name and in your name drive out demons and in your name perform many miracles?’ Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!’
3. 2 Peter 2:20-21: "For if, after they have escaped the defilements of the world... they are again entangled in them and overcome, the last state has become worse for them than the first." This passage illustrates the grave consequences of returning to sin after knowing the truth.
4. Hebrews 10:26-27: "If we deliberately keep on sinning after we have received the knowledge of the truth, no sacrifice for sins is left." This warns that continued, unrepentant sin can jeopardize one's salvation.
5. 1 John 5:13: "I write these things to you who believe in the name of the Son of God so that you may know that you have eternal life." This verse reassures believers of their eternal security, emphasizing that true faith leads to everlasting life.

2nd Corinthians 5:10: For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ, that each one may be recompensed for his deeds in the body, according to what he has done, whether good or bad..

Matthew 18:9 And if your eye causes you to sin, pluck it out and cast it from you. It is better for you to enter into life with one eye, rather than having two eyes, to be cast into hell fire.

Philippians 2:12 So then, my beloved, just as you have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, work out your salvation with fear and trembling;

1st Corinthians 6:9-10 “Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals, nor thieves, nor the greedy, nor those habitually drunk, nor verbal abusers, nor swindlers, will inherit the kingdom of God”

Galatians 5:19-21 Now the deeds of the flesh are evident, which are: sexual immorality, impurity, indecent behavior, idolatry, witchcraft, hostilities, strife, jealousy, outbursts of anger, selfish ambition, dissensions, factions, envy, drunkenness, carousing, and things like these, of which I forewarn you, just as I have forewarned you, that those who practice such things will not inherit the kingdom of God.

Ephesians 5:3-5 But among you there must not be even a hint of sexual immorality, or of any kind of impurity, or of greed, because these are improper for God’s holy people. Nor should there be obscenity, foolish talk or coarse joking, which are out of place, but rather thanksgiving. For of this you can be sure: No immoral, impure or greedy person—such a person is an idolater—has any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and of God.

John 5:28-29 Do not marvel at this; for an hour is coming, in which all who are in the tombs will hear His voice, and will come forth; those who did the good deeds to a resurrection of life, those who committed the evil deeds to a resurrection of judgment.

Romans 2:5-6 But because of your stubbornness and unrepentant heart you are storing up wrath for yourself in the day of wrath and revelation of the righteous judgment of God, who will render to each person according to his deeds:

First learn what the Greek tenses have to say about salvation.
Then, try to make what you picked to continue to convince.

One must be stupid about God to believe He will save what He knows he will lose again.
That He will give to His Son a gift that He will have to take back later on.

That God is not omniscient if He is willing to break His Son's heart.

You are turning the following passage into a lie.
For Jesus Himself will have failed to do the Father's will if any should be lost.

All those the Father gives me will come to me, and whoever comes to me I will never drive away. ​

For I have come down from heaven not to do my will but to do the will of him who sent me. ​

And this is the will of him who sent me, that I shall lose none of all those he has given me, ​

but raise them up at the last day. For my Father’s will is that everyone who looks to the Son ​

and believes in him shall have eternal life, and I will raise them up at the last day.” ​

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John 6:37-40​

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Stop seeing God as a petty vengeful man who hates anyone who disobeys him.


If you want to learn these things concerning the Greek tenses? I suggest you secure a copy of Kenneth Wuest's NT

Pride wants to think it can do something to gain God's salvation.
Pride also thinks it can do something to rob God's of his property after he saved you.

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Do you not know that your bodies are temples of the Holy Spirit, who is in you, ​

whom you have received from God? You are not your own; you were bought at a price. ​

Therefore honor God with your bodies. 1 Cor 6:219-20​

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With that in mind? Pride that still needs to be dealt with, will think it can take what God purchased and now owns, can snatch it out of His hand.

I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish; no one will snatch them out of my hand. John 10:28​

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Ignorance of God's Word is an enemy of God.

 

[Grailhunter]

First learn what the Greek tenses have to say about salvation.
Then, try to make what you picked to continue to convince.

One must be stupid about God to believe He will save what He knows he will lose again.
That He will give to His Son a gift that He will have to take back later on.

That God is not omniscient if He is willing to break His Son's heart.

You are turning the following passage into a lie.
For Jesus Himself will have failed to do the Father's will if any should be lost.

All those the Father gives me will come to me, and whoever comes to me I will never drive away. ​

For I have come down from heaven not to do my will but to do the will of him who sent me. ​

And this is the will of him who sent me, that I shall lose none of all those he has given me, ​

but raise them up at the last day. For my Father’s will is that everyone who looks to the Son ​

and believes in him shall have eternal life, and I will raise them up at the last day.” ​

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John 6:37-40​

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Stop seeing God as a petty vengeful man who hates anyone who disobeys him.


If you want to learn these things concerning the Greek tenses? I suggest you secure a copy of Kenneth Wuest's NT

Pride wants to think it can do something to gain God's salvation.
Pride also thinks it can do something to rob God's of his property after he saved you.

​

Do you not know that your bodies are temples of the Holy Spirit, who is in you, ​

whom you have received from God? You are not your own; you were bought at a price. ​

Therefore honor God with your bodies. 1 Cor 6:219-20​

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With that in mind? Pride that still needs to be dealt with, will think it can take what God purchased and now owns, can snatch it out of His hand.

I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish; no one will snatch them out of my hand. John 10:28​

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Ignorance of God's Word is an enemy of God.

College educated on biblical languages.
You need to learn the English language......I see a lot of words but I do not see your point or your objection to what I said. Regroup and try to put your thoughts into sentences.

 

[Luther7]

LOL
The fact that Yeshua is the begotten Son of Yahweh. Yeshua says "My Father" fifty times....might try reading the Bible some time, and pay attention. Humor slap.
And there are no J's in the scriptures and no one knows where the word Jesus came from it just appeared in the 16th century.

But the name Jesus ( and God) is used by Christians. The other names are of an ancient Hebrew language and not even modern jews speak that language. Jews at the time of Christ called His name in the Greek language, which in our time we use the "J" sound.

Using archaic Hebrew versions of the names of God will not put you in better standing with Him. It just shows a lack of understanding of why God chose to have His New Testament in Greek. It's obvious....to separate one Covenant from the other. And the different language is part of that universally historical change. It's almost a flagrant display of ignorance on behalf of Christ's sacrifice to go backwards to the jews ancient language. No , it is ignorance. God wrote the New testament in Greek. And Christians use and adore the name JESUS, because that's the name above all names.

Colossians 3:17 KJV
And whatsoever ye do in word or deed, do all in the name of the Lord Jesus, giving thanks to God and the Father by him.

1 John 3:23 KJV
And this is his commandment, That we should believe on the name of his Son Jesus Christ, and love one another, as he gave us commandment.

Philippians 2:10 KJV
That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth;

 

[GeneZ]

College educated on biblical languages.
You need to learn the English language......I see a lot of words but I do not see your point or your objection to what I said. Regroup and try to put your thoughts into sentences.

Jehovah Witnesses have college educated alleged scholars of the Biblical languages. Did them lots of good.

I have been around well-trained teachers who know your kind.

How could you ever see my words in an order that you can grasp when you do the same with most important thing. The Word of God?
It's easy to understand that you have a mental block....

Enjoy your life.

And, it was nice meeting you.
Please don't bother with me anymore.
I find it distasteful.

 

[Grailhunter]

But the name Jesus ( and God) is used by Christians. The other names are of an ancient Hebrew language and not even modern jews speak that language. Jews at the time of Christ called His name in the Greek language, which in our time we use the "J" sound.

Using archaic Hebrew versions of the names of God will not put you in better standing with Him. It just shows a lack of understanding of why God chose to have His New Testament in Greek.

What is shows is that you do not think that God is important and we can just make up any name to calls Him.
The of Yahweh and Yeshua are important, and revered. Accuracy in the scriptures is also important. The names of the characters Miriam, Yob, Yacob, Yerico etc. The willingness to accept that pops up as a religion can lead to some very bad things.
“And there is salvation in no one else; for there is no other name under heaven that has been given among men by which we must be saved.” Acts 4:12....LOL Sorry Jesus, George, Henry have no effect. Don't even care to know His name, why should He care about you. Hey we pray to whatz his name.
And this is his commandment, That we should believe on the name of his Son Jesus Christ, and love one another, as he gave us commandment. Only if you knew His name. My God is whatz yea call it!

 

[Grailhunter]

Jehovah Witnesses have college educated alleged scholars of the Biblical languages. Did them lots of good.

So probably do Satanists but that does not make the uneducated the authority of anything important.
Next time you need surgery save the expense of an educated surgeon, just go to a butcher shop and say cut it out.

 

[Luther7]

What is shows is that you do not think that God is important and we can just make up any name to calls Him.
The of Yahweh and Yeshua are important, and revered. Accuracy in the scriptures is also important. The names of the characters Miriam, Yob, Yacob, Yerico etc. The willingness to accept that pops up as a religion can lead to some very bad things.
“And there is salvation in no one else; for there is no other name under heaven that has been given among men by which we must be saved.” Acts 4:12....LOL Sorry Jesus, George, Henry have no effect. Don't even care to know His name, why should He care about you. Hey we pray to whatz his name.
And this is his commandment, That we should believe on the name of his Son Jesus Christ, and love one another, as he gave us commandment. Only if you knew His name. My God is whatz yea call it!

You just need to get out of the Old Covenant and come back to Jesus. I think this is the major problem in our time. The church has been deceived into placing more emphasis on " jews" than Jesus Christ.

He is our Savior, not the state of Israel. He wants us to love one another. Israel promotes hate, death and destruction. He is coming to set up an eternal kingdom, while they have you believe in their " messianic" kingdom on this sin- cursed earth.

 

[Grailhunter]

You just need to get out of the Old Covenant and come back to Jesus. I think this is the major problem in our time. The church has been deceived into placing more emphasis on " jews" than Jesus Christ.

He is our Savior, not the state of Israel. He wants us to love one another. Israel promotes hate, death and destruction. He is coming to set up an eternal kingdom, while they have you believe in their " messianic" kingdom on this sin- cursed earth.

I am all about Yeshua.

 

[GeneZ]

He is our Savior, not the state of Israel. He wants us to love one another. Israel promotes hate, death and destruction. He is coming to set up an eternal kingdom, while they have you believe in their " messianic" kingdom on this sin- cursed earth.

And, where will that messianic kingdom reside with its headquarters?

I will whistle for them and gather them in,​

for I have redeemed them,​

and they shall be as many as they were before.​

Though I scattered them among the nations,​

yet in far countries they shall remember me,​

and with their children they shall live and return.​

I will bring them home from the land of Egypt,​

and gather them from Assyria,​

and I will bring them to the land of Gilead and to Lebanon,​

till there is no room for them." Zechariah 10:8-10​

When Jesus comes back?

Surviving Israel will be scattered all over the earth.
God is not done with Israel.

"Though I scattered them among the nations..."​

He will whistle like a shepherd whistles for his flock.
They will all come running to Him in Jerusalem.

I will whistle for them and gather them in,​

for I have redeemed them..."​

The Church is not Israel's replacement.
The Church is His Son's Bride.
Not Israel's replacement.

The Church's home is in Heaven.

But our citizenship is in heaven. And we eagerly ​

await a Savior from there, the Lord Jesus Christ.​

​

(Philippians 3:20)​

Israel's new home is to be on the new earth.
Not in Heaven.

Isaiah 65:17-19

“See, I will create​

new heavens and a new earth.​

The former things will not be remembered,​

nor will they come to mind.​

But be glad and rejoice forever​

in what I will create,​

for I will create Jerusalem to be a delight​

and its people a joy.​

I will rejoice over Jerusalem​

and take delight in my people;​

the sound of weeping and of crying​

will be heard in it no more.​

Replacement theology is really a tough nut to crack when its proponents are closed-minded and convinced about things they do not understand.

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[Luther7]

I am all about Yeshua.

And the jew is laughing at you because in their religion:
Yeshua = Metatron= Lucifer
They LOVE IT when judified Christians use that name. They hate the name of Jesus Christ.
This is what I am trying to explain, and I don't know how else to say it.

 

[IndianaRob]

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And, where will that messianic kingdom reside with its headquarters?

I will whistle for them and gather them in,​

for I have redeemed them,​

and they shall be as many as they were before.​

Though I scattered them among the nations,​

yet in far countries they shall remember me,​

and with their children they shall live and return.​

I will bring them home from the land of Egypt,​

and gather them from Assyria,​

and I will bring them to the land of Gilead and to Lebanon,​

till there is no room for them." Zechariah 10:8-10​

When Jesus comes back?

Surviving Israel will be scattered all over the earth.
God is not done with Israel.

"Though I scattered them among the nations..."​

He will whistle like a shepherd whistles for his flock.
They will all come running to Him in Jerusalem.

I will whistle for them and gather them in,​

for I have redeemed them..."​

The Church is not Israel's replacement.
The Church is His Son's Bride.
Not Israel's replacement.

The Church's home is in Heaven.

But our citizenship is in heaven. And we eagerly ​

await a Savior from there, the Lord Jesus Christ.​

​

(Philippians 3:20)​

Israel's new home is to be on the new earth.
Not in Heaven.

Isaiah 65:17-19

“See, I will create​

new heavens and a new earth.​

The former things will not be remembered,​

nor will they come to mind.​

But be glad and rejoice forever​

in what I will create,​

for I will create Jerusalem to be a delight​

and its people a joy.​

I will rejoice over Jerusalem​

and take delight in my people;​

the sound of weeping and of crying​

will be heard in it no more.​

Replacement theology is really a tough nut to crack when its proponents are closed-minded and convinced about things they do not understand.

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I would like to weigh in on this Genez. I used to think the Jews were Gods chosen people because that’s what I had been taught but I was taught wrong.

Exodus describes exactly who God’s chosen people are. His people are now and always have been those obey God’s voice and keep his covenant.

Exo 19:5 Now therefore, if ye will obey my voice indeed, and keep my covenant, then ye shall be a peculiar treasure unto me above all people: for all the earth is mine:

I hear a lot of people talk about replacement theology but the truth is, replacement theology is replacing those who obey God and keep his covenant with Jews.

Does that make sense?

 

[Luther7]

And, where will that messianic kingdom reside with its headquarters?

I will whistle for them and gather them in,​

for I have redeemed them,​

and they shall be as many as they were before.​

Though I scattered them among the nations,​

yet in far countries they shall remember me,​

and with their children they shall live and return.​

I will bring them home from the land of Egypt,​

and gather them from Assyria,​

and I will bring them to the land of Gilead and to Lebanon,​

till there is no room for them." Zechariah 10:8-10​

When Jesus comes back?

Surviving Israel will be scattered all over the earth.
God is not done with Israel.

"Though I scattered them among the nations..."​

He will whistle like a shepherd whistles for his flock.
They will all come running to Him in Jerusalem.

I will whistle for them and gather them in,​

for I have redeemed them..."​

The Church is not Israel's replacement.
The Church is His Son's Bride.
Not Israel's replacement.

The Church's home is in Heaven.

But our citizenship is in heaven. And we eagerly ​

await a Savior from there, the Lord Jesus Christ.​

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(Philippians 3:20)​

Israel's new home is to be on the new earth.
Not in Heaven.

Isaiah 65:17-19

“See, I will create​

new heavens and a new earth.​

The former things will not be remembered,​

nor will they come to mind.​

But be glad and rejoice forever​

in what I will create,​

for I will create Jerusalem to be a delight​

and its people a joy.​

I will rejoice over Jerusalem​

and take delight in my people;​

the sound of weeping and of crying​

will be heard in it no more.​

Replacement theology is really a tough nut to crack when its proponents are closed-minded and convinced about things they do not understand.

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I like to call it " fulfillment theology.

And your comment:
"Surviving Israel will be scattered all over the earth.
God is not done with Israel.".....is a great example. Very briefly, 2700 years ago when the 10 tribes were scattered into all nations, they took the law of God with them as they assimilated with all people. It is from these tribes that all the families of the earth would be blessed ( Genesis 12:3) when the gospel came into the world. The blessing is eternal inheritance ( life).

That is why Abraham and his seed is fulfilled in the seed of Christ. You are correct. God is not done with Israel, because the children of God ( all Christians) have yet to receive that eternal inheritance in heaven. We as believers in Jesus Christ, are the Israel of God.

 

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I would like to weigh in on this Genez. I used to think the Jews were Gods chosen people because that’s what I had been taught but I was taught wrong.

Exodus describes exactly who God’s chosen people are. His people are now and always have been those obey God’s voice and keep his covenant.

Exo 19:5 Now therefore, if ye will obey my voice indeed, and keep my covenant, then ye shall be a peculiar treasure unto me above all people: for all the earth is mine:

I hear a lot of people talk about replacement theology but the truth is, replacement theology is replacing those who obey God and keep his covenant with Jews.

Does that make sense?

Except the covenant ( New Covenant in Christ's blood) will be kept by all in Jesus Christ.