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As you might have heard, we are still waiting on the global warming in Sweden. We just had the coldest temperature this century.

Back in 2006 the media warned us that by 2026 people would have forgotten how to ski because of the lack of snow…

Now it's being reported that a person living in Arjeplog noted a chillingly cold -49,7C (that’s -57,5 Fahrenheit) on his thermometer before it stopped working when it hit -50C.

This is very close to being the coldest temperature ever recorded in Sweden. The record sits at -52,6C all the way back in 1966.
 

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As you might have heard, we are still waiting on the global warming in Sweden. We just had the coldest temperature this century.

Back in 2006 the media warned us that by 2026 people would have forgotten how to ski because of the lack of snow…

Now it's being reported that a person living in Arjeplog noted a chillingly cold -49,7C (that’s -57,5 Fahrenheit) on his thermometer before it stopped working when it hit -50C.

This is very close to being the coldest temperature ever recorded in Sweden. The record sits at -52,6C all the way back in 1966.

The lesson here is how well the switch to electric buses is working in the fight against global warming. In less than ten years, those electric vehicles have brought warm weather to its knees.

It can be very chilly sitting on them, when they are frozen in their tracks however... Some people have taken to burning small piles of IKEA furniture to make the ride more tolerable.
 
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The things she says is horrible, to think like she does, these people are planning to destroy everything cause you cannot have human society with insufficient energy production. That is not sustainable, they know it which is why they demand depopulation of the world to 500 million people only to 'live in harmony with nature and not be a parasite on the earth'

Don't be a creature worshipper like they are, people who worship the creation and not the creator.
God will destroy them with the earth again and give us a new heaven and new earth without evil.
So yes she is right about their coming extinction, ironically. They have a godless mindset.

The first time by water, the second time by fire.
Genesis 6:13, And God said to Noah, “The end of all flesh has come before Me, for the earth is filled with violence through them; and behold, I will destroy them with the earth.
 
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What is Green today, burnt up tomorrow in the oven.

30 Now if God so clothes the grass of the field, which today is, and tomorrow is thrown into the oven, will He not much more clothe you, O you of little faith?

The Day of the Lord​

10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night, in which the heavens will pass away with a great noise, and the elements will melt with fervent heat; both the earth and the works that are in it will be [d]burned up. 11 Therefore, since all these things will be dissolved, what manner of persons ought you to be in holy conduct and godliness, 12 looking for and hastening the coming of the day of God, because of which the heavens will be dissolved, being on fire, and the elements will melt with fervent heat? 13 Nevertheless we, according to His promise, look for new heavens and a new earth in which righteousness dwells.
 

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As you might have heard, we are still waiting on the global warming in Sweden. We just had the coldest temperature this century.

Back in 2006 the media warned us that by 2026 people would have forgotten how to ski because of the lack of snow…

Now it's being reported that a person living in Arjeplog noted a chillingly cold -49,7C (that’s -57,5 Fahrenheit) on his thermometer before it stopped working when it hit -50C.

This is very close to being the coldest temperature ever recorded in Sweden. The record sits at -52,6C all the way back in 1966.
Theyu can always revert to pedal power and use Fred Flintstone cars!!! :joyful:
 
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Now it's being reported that a person living in Arjeplog noted a chillingly cold -49,7C (that’s -57,5 Fahrenheit) on his thermometer before it stopped working when it hit -50C.

A thermometer does not stop working when the temperature goes outside of its design parameters.

The design of the thermometer just cannot indicate what the temperature actually is outside of it design limitations.
 

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A thermometer does not stop working when the temperature goes outside of its design parameters.

The design of the thermometer just cannot indicate what the temperature actually is outside of it design limitations.

And you thought this was an important clarification? :tearsofjoy:

It's job is to tell you the temperature. It does that when it's working.

If it can't do its job--- it's not working. But thanks for the speech. :coff
 

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And you thought this was an important clarification? :tearsofjoy:

It's job is to tell you the temperature. It does that when it's working.

If it can't do its job--- it's not working. But thanks for the speech. :coff

But even when the temperature is outside of the design range of the thermometer's ability to indicate, the thermometer is still working.

Sometimes a glass thermometer will break when the temperature goes above the limit of the capillary's designed length. Then we can say it has stopped working accurately because it has lost some of its indicating fluid.

But then you are a black and white sort of person, then perhaps you might be misguided in your understanding of physics.
 

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But even when the temperature is outside of the design range of the thermometer's ability to indicate, the thermometer is still working.

Sometimes a glass thermometer will break when the temperature goes above the limit of the capillary's designed length. Then we can say it has stopped working accurately because it has lost some of its indicating fluid.

But then you are a black and white sort of person, then perhaps you might be misguided in your understanding of physics.

Yawn…. If “I’m” a black and white sort of person…. lol.

Take a chill pill and wait for the thermometer to do it’s job.
 

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The lesson here is how well the switch to electric buses is working in the fight against global warming. In less than ten years, those electric vehicles have brought warm weather to its knees.

It can be very chilly sitting on them, when they are frozen in their tracks however... Some people have taken to burning small piles of IKEA furniture to make the ride more tolerable.
@APAK I think we were discussing this a while ago.

I just came back here to admit the critiques were right about EVs and renewables, we need to keep petrol, diesel, gas and coal, and the consumer needs freedom of choice, not a government forced transition.

Yesterday transmission towers got knocked down in the West in Victoria, and then a coal power station got tripped on the other side of the state in Gippsland and power went off to many homes, it just goes to show you need coal to keep the lights on, you can't rely on just renewables, there is not enough wind turbines, solar and batteries and they all aren't as reliable or clean or as cheap as they are claimed to be.

Coal and oil are plentiful, a lot of the metals needed for the "transition" the governments around the world want are not.

Biden needs to stop going on the same path as Australia, shutting coal power stations and jacking up the taxes on petrol prices while trying to get whole populations to buy electric vehicles is not gonna end well.
 

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@APAK I think we were discussing this a while ago.

I just came back here to admit the critiques were right about EVs and renewables, we need to keep petrol, diesel, gas and coal, and the consumer needs freedom of choice, not a government forced transition.

Yesterday transmission towers got knocked down in the West in Victoria, and then a coal power station got tripped on the other side of the state in Gippsland and power went off to many homes, it just goes to show you need coal to keep the lights on, you can't rely on just renewables, there is not enough wind turbines, solar and batteries and they all aren't as reliable or clean or as cheap as they are claimed to be.

Coal and oil are plentiful, a lot of the metals needed for the "transition" the governments around the world want are not.

Biden needs to stop going on the same path as Australia, shutting coal power stations and jacking up the taxes on petrol prices while trying to get whole populations to buy electric vehicles is not gonna end well.
@Josho , a new man I'm 'seeing' here. Good on you for your realistic and useful post - well said.
 

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@APAK I think we were discussing this a while ago.

I just came back here to admit the critiques were right about EVs and renewables, we need to keep petrol, diesel, gas and coal, and the consumer needs freedom of choice, not a government forced transition.

Yesterday transmission towers got knocked down in the West in Victoria, and then a coal power station got tripped on the other side of the state in Gippsland and power went off to many homes, it just goes to show you need coal to keep the lights on, you can't rely on just renewables, there is not enough wind turbines, solar and batteries and they all aren't as reliable or clean or as cheap as they are claimed to be.

Coal and oil are plentiful, a lot of the metals needed for the "transition" the governments around the world want are not.

Biden needs to stop going on the same path as Australia, shutting coal power stations and jacking up the taxes on petrol prices while trying to get whole populations to buy electric vehicles is not gonna end well.

Generally, all it takes for proponents to rethink the situation-- is one adverse event. Here, in California- where electric vehicles have been heavily subsidized and almost ram-rodded into garages, buyer's remorse is real. Folks can't give them away. When you have to sit in line for hours for your turn, to then sit for hours again to charge your car-- well, it kind of takes the shine off. Then-- when as just happened in Aus, when the power goes out and you need it most-- you again are left stranded.

It's ironic when the greenies finally realize that coal is being used primarily, to power their electric vehicles.
 

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@APAK I think we were discussing this a while ago.

I just came back here to admit the critiques were right about EVs and renewables, we need to keep petrol, diesel, gas and coal, and the consumer needs freedom of choice, not a government forced transition.

Yesterday transmission towers got knocked down in the West in Victoria, and then a coal power station got tripped on the other side of the state in Gippsland and power went off to many homes, it just goes to show you need coal to keep the lights on, you can't rely on just renewables, there is not enough wind turbines, solar and batteries and they all aren't as reliable or clean or as cheap as they are claimed to be.

Coal and oil are plentiful, a lot of the metals needed for the "transition" the governments around the world want are not.

Biden needs to stop going on the same path as Australia, shutting coal power stations and jacking up the taxes on petrol prices while trying to get whole populations to buy electric vehicles is not gonna end well.
God gave us coal, oil, and natural gas for a purpose.

It is the stupid scientists that keep wanting to mess into His creations.

How's come the scientists never, ever, talk about the mini-ice age.



For the most recent period that was much colder than present with significant glaciation, see Last Glacial Period.
Global average temperatures show that the Little Ice Age was not a distinct planet-wide period but a regional phenomenon occurring near the end of a long temperature decline that preceded recent global warming.[1]
The Little Ice Age (LIA) was a period of regional cooling, particularly pronounced in the North Atlantic region.[2] It was not a true ice age of global extent.[3] The term was introduced into scientific literature by François E. Matthes in 1939.[4] The period has been conventionally defined as extending from the 16th to the 19th centuries,[5][6][7] but some experts prefer an alternative timespan from about 1300[8] to about 1850.[9][10][11]

The NASA Earth Observatory notes three particularly cold intervals. One began about 1650, another about 1770, and the last in 1850, all of which were separated by intervals of slight warming.[7] The Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change Third Assessment Report considered that the timing and the areas affected by the LIA suggested largely independent regional climate changes, rather than a globally synchronous increased glaciation. At most, there was modest cooling of the Northern Hemisphere during the period.[3]

Several causes have been proposed: cyclical lows in solar radiation, heightened volcanic activity, changes in the ocean circulation, variations in Earth's orbit and axial tilt (orbital forcing), inherent variability in global climate, and decreases in the human population (such as from the massacres by Genghis Khan, Black Death and the epidemics emerging in the Americas upon European contact[12][13]).

Now... every article you can read on this mentions a contributing factor to the cooling
has been volcanic activity....

Then there is this


Why do all our climate data start in 1880?​


Here’s what’s going on: Scientists mark the start of modern global record-keeping at roughly 137 years ago, in 1880. That’s because earlier available climate data doesn’t cover enough of the planet to get an accurate reading, according to NASA. So 2016 wasn’t just the hottest year in 137 years—it’s truly the hottest year on record.

(But they fail to relate it to the rewarming from the little ice age..... due to lack of records)
 

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As you might have heard, we are still waiting on the global warming in Sweden. We just had the coldest temperature this century.

Back in 2006 the media warned us that by 2026 people would have forgotten how to ski because of the lack of snow…

Now it's being reported that a person living in Arjeplog noted a chillingly cold -49,7C (that’s -57,5 Fahrenheit) on his thermometer before it stopped working when it hit -50C.

This is very close to being the coldest temperature ever recorded in Sweden. The record sits at -52,6C all the way back in 1966.
I have a bowl of Hershey's kisses on my desk. Obviously no one anywhere is going hungry.
 

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God gave us coal, oil, and natural gas for a purpose.

It is the stupid scientists that keep wanting to mess into His creations.

How's come the scientists never, ever, talk about the mini-ice age.



For the most recent period that was much colder than present with significant glaciation, see Last Glacial Period.
Global average temperatures show that the Little Ice Age was not a distinct planet-wide period but a regional phenomenon occurring near the end of a long temperature decline that preceded recent global warming.[1]
The Little Ice Age (LIA) was a period of regional cooling, particularly pronounced in the North Atlantic region.[2] It was not a true ice age of global extent.[3] The term was introduced into scientific literature by François E. Matthes in 1939.[4] The period has been conventionally defined as extending from the 16th to the 19th centuries,[5][6][7] but some experts prefer an alternative timespan from about 1300[8] to about 1850.[9][10][11]

The NASA Earth Observatory notes three particularly cold intervals. One began about 1650, another about 1770, and the last in 1850, all of which were separated by intervals of slight warming.[7] The Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change Third Assessment Report considered that the timing and the areas affected by the LIA suggested largely independent regional climate changes, rather than a globally synchronous increased glaciation. At most, there was modest cooling of the Northern Hemisphere during the period.[3]

Several causes have been proposed: cyclical lows in solar radiation, heightened volcanic activity, changes in the ocean circulation, variations in Earth's orbit and axial tilt (orbital forcing), inherent variability in global climate, and decreases in the human population (such as from the massacres by Genghis Khan, Black Death and the epidemics emerging in the Americas upon European contact[12][13]).

Now... every article you can read on this mentions a contributing factor to the cooling
has been volcanic activity....

Then there is this


Why do all our climate data start in 1880?​


Here’s what’s going on: Scientists mark the start of modern global record-keeping at roughly 137 years ago, in 1880. That’s because earlier available climate data doesn’t cover enough of the planet to get an accurate reading, according to NASA. So 2016 wasn’t just the hottest year in 137 years—it’s truly the hottest year on record.

(But they fail to relate it to the rewarming from the little ice age..... due to lack of records)
copy all that, all good and useful....and then the last 40 years of collected data I do not trust...it is not above 1 deg C as a global average.

The Sun and its solar attributes are the major cause of all these temp earth cycles....and if they could take accurate measurements from Mars and Venus, and they can with a combination of deployed satellites and 'ground' level probes they would find similar temp cycles and trends caused by the Sun proportionally to their distance, rotation, mass, size and element/ gas composition.

And they do not even have any carbon life foot-prints or forms either, to deliberately and unnaturally cause so-called pollution that they say causes increases temps.......not//
 
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It's summer....



----hundreds of power poles and lines were down across the state, and the wild weather collapsed six transmission powers near Anakie yesterday afternoon.

The Loy Yang A power station also tripped and was disconnected from the grid, leading to Aemo enacting load shedding to keep the power system secure.

Load shedding distributes demand for electrical power across multiple power sources. This was cancelled “after a short period”, the department said, and all 90,000 customers impacted by this have their power restored.

The department said last night:

The Loy Yang A power station is currently in the process of being reconnected to the grid … Crews are actively working to restore power to these impacted areas. However, given the extent of the widespread damage, it may take days if not weeks to restore electricity to all of those impacted.
 

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It's summer....



----hundreds of power poles and lines were down across the state, and the wild weather collapsed six transmission powers near Anakie yesterday afternoon.

The Loy Yang A power station also tripped and was disconnected from the grid, leading to Aemo enacting load shedding to keep the power system secure.

Load shedding distributes demand for electrical power across multiple power sources. This was cancelled “after a short period”, the department said, and all 90,000 customers impacted by this have their power restored.

The department said last night:
Man, what stupidity aye....those dumb and dangerous paid off politicians that folks so trust will soon begin to quietly ride out of town into the sunset for this disaster they just caused. To lay low for a spell and mediate on other brainless ideas. It never ceased to amaze me how folks vote to only find out that there was not much difference really in all the candidates....they are grown from the same paymasters and groomed from the same dirty rags...
 
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copy all that, all good and useful....and then the last 40 years of collected data I do not trust...it is not above 1 deg C as a global average.
Actually it is. but ...who cares about facts?
The Sun and its solar attributes are the major cause of all these temp earth cycles....and if they could take accurate measurements from Mars and Venus, and they can with a combination of deployed satellites and 'ground' level probes they would find similar temp cycles and trends caused by the Sun proportionally to their distance, rotation, mass, size and element/ gas composition.

And they do not even have any carbon life foot-prints or forms either, to deliberately and unnaturally cause so-called pollution that they say causes increases temps.......not//
again....Facts. The surface temperature on Mars has remains unchanged since we were first able to take measurements in the 70's. About ten years ago there was a crackpot Habibullo Abdussamatov who claimed the temperature of Mars is raising but he got his results only by data mining. Huge sandstorms on Mars will as a blanket increasing the surface temperature from 20-30 C. As soon as the sand storm passes the temperature drops back to exactly what it was before.
 
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