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theefaith

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Spiritual Fathers have care for our souls!

Acts 20:28 Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over the which the Holy Ghost hath made you overseers, to feed the church of God, which he hath purchased with his own blood.

Jn 21:17 feed my sheep:

Heb 13:7 Remember them which have the rule over you, who have spoken unto you the word of God: whose faith follow, considering the end of their conversation.

Heb 13:17 Obey them that have the rule over you, and submit yourselves: for they care for your souls, as they that must give account, that they may do it with joy, and not with grief: for that is unprofitable for you.

1 Tim 1:2 Unto Timothy, my own son in the faith: Grace, mercy, and peace, from God our Father and Jesus Christ our Lord.

Gal 4:19 My little children, of whom I travail in birth again until Christ be formed in you

1 John 2
My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not.

That makes Paul and John spiritual fathers, pastors of our souls!

Obedience of the faithful Christians or spiritual anarchy of the heretical fundamentalists!
 

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Us is the apostles!

the HS leads the apostles into all truth Jn 16:13 and they must teach us lk 1:4 Matt 28:19 acts 8:31
You're an eyewitness to Jesus' ressurection?

You know why Jehovahs Witness cannot be Gods witness?
Because they never witnessed anything!
The apostles are the eye-witness of Jesus' ressurection.
Your church is in the same boat as the JW's
No person that is not mentioned in scripture is Inspired.
The catholic church is not the church of Christ, Romans 16:16.
The church in the new testament was not governed at all like the catholic church is.
The catholic church is patterned after the Roman government not after the Lords church.
 

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You're an eyewitness to Jesus' ressurection?

You know why Jehovahs Witness cannot be Gods witness?
Because they never witnessed anything!
The apostles are the eye-witness of Jesus' ressurection.
Your church is in the same boat as the JW's
No person that is not mentioned in scripture is Inspired.
The catholic church is not the church of Christ, Romans 16:16.
The church in the new testament was not governed at all like the catholic church is.
The catholic church is patterned after the Roman government not after the Lords church.

the church is eternal and cannot change

if it has apostles it still does

truth is immutable and the church ir-reformable

who interprets scripture?
 

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the church is eternal and cannot change

if it has apostles it still does

truth is immutable and the church ir-reformable

who interprets scripture?

That's strange coming from a catholic.
Are you not aware of the continuous every changing doctrines of the catholic church?

The Lords church began in 30ad

The catholic church is a "Johnny come lately"
To recent to be the new testament church.

Acts 20:29-30
For I know this, that after my departure savage wolves will come in among you, not sparring the flock.
Also from among yourselves men will rise up, speaking perverse things, to draw away the disciples after themselves.

The scriptures interpret themselves,

Why does the catholic church want us to believe we cannot understand the Bible?
Answer: control

Ephesians 3:4
Whereby when ye read, ye may understand my knowledge in the mystery of Christ.

Ephesians 5:17
Wherefore be ye not unwise, but understanding what the will of the Lord is.

The main reason for misunderstanding of the Bible is ignorance of the Bible(lack of study)
How do you keep folks ignorant?
Convince them they cannot understand it.
 

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That's strange coming from a catholic.
Are you not aware of the continuous every changing doctrines of the catholic church?

The Lords church began in 30ad

The catholic church is a "Johnny come lately"
To recent to be the new testament church.

Acts 20:29-30
For I know this, that after my departure savage wolves will come in among you, not sparring the flock.
Also from among yourselves men will rise up, speaking perverse things, to draw away the disciples after themselves.

The scriptures interpret themselves,

Why does the catholic church want us to believe we cannot understand the Bible?
Answer: control

Ephesians 3:4
Whereby when ye read, ye may understand my knowledge in the mystery of Christ.

Ephesians 5:17
Wherefore be ye not unwise, but understanding what the will of the Lord is.

The main reason for misunderstanding of the Bible is ignorance of the Bible(lack of study)
How do you keep folks ignorant?
Convince them they cannot understand it.

there is only one church founded by Christ on Peter and the church wrote the New Testament scripture

doctrine is immutable like God who revealed it

there must be apostles governing the church and teaching the truths revealed by Christ

Jn 3:5 born again?

does it mean baptismal regeneration?
 

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And the birth of our Saviour is one that Mary, herself, with her freewill, said "YES", and delivered salvation for all mankind. Lk 1:38

Biblical Mary, mother of God, ever Virgin, sinless, mother of our salvation!

Mother of God Lk 1:43

Immaculate conception (sinless) gen 3:15 enmity or total war none of satans works are found in Mary!
Also Lk 1:28 full of grace lk 1:49 great things plural (immaculate conception of Mary and the miraculous conception of Jesus) Rev12:1 woman clothed with the sun. Immaculate purity

Lk 1:30 found favor with God (the salvation lost by Adam) mother of our salvation Lk 2:30 and cos she consented to our salvation! Lk 1:38

Perpetual Virgin Isa 7:14 matt 1:21
Lk 1:31-34

Spiritual Mother Jn 19:26-27 rev 12:17

Mother of the creator is mother of all creation!

Mother of the Redeemer is the mother of all the redeemed!

Mother of our Savior is the mother of all those who obtain salvation!
Lk 1:30


All generations call me blessed! Lk 1:
Thanksgiving in praise of Mary for bearing our savior! Matt 1:23 And finding our salvation! Lk 1:30


Praise honor veneration and devotion redound to the Glory of God who created Mary immaculate Lk 1:49 and Christ source of all grace! Jn 1:16-17

Praise, honor, veneration, and devotion are not worship, worship requires intent!
 

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there is only one church founded by Christ on Peter and the church wrote the New Testament scripture

doctrine is immutable like God who revealed it

there must be apostles governing the church and teaching the truths revealed by Christ

Jn 3:5 born again?

does it mean baptismal regeneration?

John 3:5
Jesus teaches His gospel,
Unless ALL are baptized in the name of Jesus Christ and ie water immersion and the Spirit, meaning born again by the gospel.
It was the Spirit that revealed the gospel through revelation.

So Jesus is teaching we are,
Born again by water immersion and the gospel that the Holy Spirit revealed.
1Corinthians 4:15
For though you might have ten thousand instructors in Christ, yet you do not have many fathers; for I have begotten you through the gospel.

We are born again by baptism, Acts 2:38
We are born again by the gospel 1Corinthians 4:15,
That Gods Holy Spirit revealed.

Unless you be born of water and Spirit, he cannot enter the kingdom of God.

We enter the kingdom the same way we get in Christ.
Through water immersion,
Galatians 3:26-27
For you are all sins of God through faith iin Christ Jesus
For as many if you as were baptized into Christ, have put on Christ.

Acts 2:38 ; 47
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Praising God and having favor with all the people. And the Lord added to the church daily those who were being saved.

These christians were added to the Lords church when they in Acts 2:38 obeyed the gospel.
Baptism is how we get IN Christ which also adds you to His kingdom, His church.

Matthew 16:18-19
I will build My church....
And I will give you the keys of the kingdom....

The kingdom keys bind or loose what is on earth(Christs church)
And those same keys bind or loose what is in heaven(kingdom)

Keys only fit a specific lock.
Therefore these keys are the same that fit the church and the kingdom.
Therefore the church and the kingdom are one in the same.


Mary a perpetual virgin? Not Biblical.
Perpetual Virgin Isa 7:14 matt 1:21
Lk 1:31-34

Matthew 1:25
And did not know her till she had brought forth her firstborn Son. And he called his name Jesus.
Joseph had sexual intercourse with Mary after Jesus was born.
He was commanded to do so!
Matthew 1:24
Then Joseph being aroused from sleep, did as the angel of the Lord commanded him and took to him his wife(had sex with Mary).