Trump has abandoned America First

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Riven

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This is true, but Trump moving to make it much harder for those drugs to be smuggled in is a common sense approach to the so called war on drug and is something I don't recall previous presidents doing much about.
They didn't do much about it because you can't stop people from choosing to do drugs. Regardless, this buisness with Venezuela had nothing to do with drugs; it was a pretext to sell the American people on the use of force.

Really? You've never heard of Tren de Aragua the transnational organized crime syndicate from Venezuela???

Learn more about them here - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tren_de_Aragua
Again, where's the evidence that the boats thast were targeted were drug boats?
 

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As a person who already saw relatives off to war, I do not look at military action as a thought experiment or a messaging opportunity.

I know what it costs, who pays it, and how long it lingers.

I do not ever want to see that again, especially not over lies, ego, or the kind of imperial fantasy that treats other countries as props and other people’s children as expendable.

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Big Boy Johnson

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They didn't do much about it because you can't stop people from choosing to do drugs.

Yeah by that reasoning we should go ahead and legalize murder right?

I mean you can't stop people from doing murder or wanting to do murder.

It's a lost cause to stop murder, so maybe it should be legalized right?


this buisness with Venezuela had nothing to do with drugs

Drugs is the primary reason, flooding our nation with gang members is another.

Venezuela cooperating with our enemies such as Russia, Iran, and China is another reason.

All Trump did was put some teeth in the Monroe doctrine and for good reason.


Again, where's the evidence that the boats thast were targeted were drug boats?

There are citizens in Venezuela cooperating with the US providing intel concerning drugs being brought in to Venezuela from Columbia (their main crop is cocaine) and is being shipped out of Venezuela on it's way to the US

Get on utubers and search for videos of citizens in Venezuela who are in opposition to what's going on in Venezuela

Or continue supporting the drug cartels operating out of Venezuela.

We know how liberals love them some illicit drugs :rolleyes:
 

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Yeah by that reasoning we should go ahead and legalize murder right?

I mean you can't stop people from doing murder or wanting to do murder.

It's a lost cause to stop murder, so maybe it should be legalized right?
No. But I think your analogy is helpful here. Murder should remain illegal, but we have to be realistic and realize we'll never be able to stop people from committing murder.

Drugs is the primary reason, flooding our nation with gang members is another.
No evidence has been provided for this assertion.

Venezuela cooperating with our enemies such as Russia, Iran, and China is another reason.
The United States is effectively cutting off those countries from the oil underneath Venezuela. That's what this is really about. Wars are fought over geopolitical differences, not drugs.

All Trump did was put some teeth in the Monroe doctrine and for good reason.
What he did was just commit a crimeand committed the United States to another military occupation that's going to cost us money we don't have.
 

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Trump did NOT violate this general principle but this abstract is not an internal law anymore than the preamble to the US Constitution has statutory authority.
The UN is full of Communist who make up their own idiot Laws with no regard to reality !
Socialist create a gods like Political Correctness ?

When Political Correctness became God in our Police Service it went down hill fast becoming useless to deal with real crime like even idiot small time drug dealers.

When Political Correctness dominated over our Defence Force, such became a sad joke !

Political Correctness is what Hitler and Stalin used in fact to dominate over everyone like a mongrel dog ! and sadly most people do not know that is the number one fact of how they totaly dominated over everyone in fact ! and now we see this abomination being Idolied once again.

They just make up so many Laws that no one can do anything without violating some Law or what ever. so they end up doing nothing about truly serious criminals.

Like we have Laws that if a criminal brake into your home to steal. look out if he trips down the stairs or you will be the one that the Law will come after for a serious deal. because they are not interested in reality at all, but for what they can get one for ? look under section ABC found a violation !
Oh now Hate speach has been created as a Law ! So serious a Law is that now ! with Nazi like morons running about demanding all such is the most serious thing on earth ever ! that must be stamped out !

I hate the PM and Political Correctness as I clearly see such as an abomination ! Oh no !
Will we have to get rid of the Bible because God Hates as well !
 
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Trump did today what he does when faced with consequences: he posted:
About the 2020 election, windmills, and Dominion voting machines.

While diplomats spoke about sovereignty and international law, the President of the United States ranted like a man trapped in a Facebook comment section.
 

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I am anticipating the disclosure on those Dominion Voting Machines that came from VZ.
That's how Maduro stole his election in 2024. But they are the same machines that were used in the US 2020 Election.
Hey, at least Tampon Tim jumped out of the Governors race in Minnesota. I guess the heat from all that FRAUD was getting too hot.
Now do Mills in Maine and it will make my day.
:D
 

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That's why it is the right thing to do to take him in to custody seeing he is supporting criminal gangs and drug dealing

It's amazing how the liberals are coming out in support of criminal gangs and drug dealing

They are truly the political party of lawlessness




Liberals support baby killing (abortion) and sexual perversion (gay agenda) demonstration their hate for the Lord Jesus Christ Who calls these actions abomination (grievous sin)




That's what liberals do is whine about everything




Liberals think when someone outside of the US is engaged in damaging US citizens we have no right to defend our citizens?




They violated our sovereignty by flooding our nation with violent gangs and drugs

As such we have the right to defend ourselves. Muduro started it.




Moot point as the US is not governed by international law.

We have not given up our sovereignty yet to the one world government.

That will eventually come later once the anti-christ is revealed to the world.




Meaningless to the US government when it comes to defending our citizens.

It's amazing how the liberals are coming out in support of criminal gangs and drug dealing

It's no surprise seeing that enthusiastically celebrate the murder of innocent babies (abortion)

Thankfully there won't be any baby killers in God's Kingdom so real Christians won't have to put up with these lawless ones after leaving this life.




It's in Greenland's best interest to be under the protection of the US before China or Russia invades them and takes them over seeing their county is of great strategic value.

China or Russia could take Greenland over in about 20 minutes with 50 soldiers considering how weak and inept Greenland is.




He has people that handle media matters, he doesn't personal create content like that
First of all, you have not a thing to say that actually defends your beliefs, just ad-hominems. You paint with a broad brush. You have nothing TO defend this person in office.
And BTW-trump DID create this image of himself late Saturday night...so very presumptuous! It is in a video I posted but, you of course are too stiff-necked to watch.
 

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As the best President since the Founding Fathers?
Well, I would expect this deranged answer from you. My guess is that you are just like him. Misogynist, filthy, extremely boastful, lying, bellowing your own praises, totally removed of logic, self promoting...gosh I could go on and on, but you know...just like you...?
 
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No. But I think your analogy is helpful here. Murder should remain illegal, but we have to be realistic and realize we'll never be able to stop people from committing murder.

By the same token, we won't ever stop people from wanting to do drugs.

But, we can make it hard for them to get drugs and make those who get caught doing or selling drugs spend substantial time behind bars so they can understand they are committing crimes against society


No evidence has been provided for this assertion.

Only the liberals with their head in the sand are unaware of all the Venezuelan gang members here in the US and their involvement of bringing in drugs.

I guess there's no evidence that murder is really that big of a problem with to you liberals.


The United States is effectively cutting off those countries from the oil underneath Venezuela. That's what this is really about. Wars are fought over geopolitical differences, not drugs.

We do want to stop our enemies from getting oil and precious metals from Venezuela, AND we want to stop Venezuelan gangs from operating in the US to bring in drugs. This is a good America first policy as it's in the best interest of our national defense as well as the defense of our allies

Both are true and equally important, but the liberals are ignorant of reality having perpetual TDS on the brain.


What he did was just commit a crimeand committed the United States to another military occupation that's going to cost us money we don't have.

Yeah, those living in fear continue to fear monger.

Maybe ask your mom to make you a nice cup of hot chocolate and pet your puppy doggies for a while and maybe that will help you feel better.


Republican turns on Trump over Venezuela in powerful speech

So another RINO got infected with liberal talking points, big deal.


First of all, you have not a thing to say that actually defends your beliefs, just ad-hominems. You paint with a broad brush. You have nothing TO defend this person in office.
And BTW-trump DID create this image of himself late Saturday night...so very presumptuous! It is in a video I posted but, you of course are too stiff-necked to watch.

Blah blah blah, whatever.

Liberals have no common sense and want globalism so they cannot stand to see the US do what's in our own best interests

You people support killing babies and the gay agenda so it's not like you people are in your right minds or anything.


My guess is that you are just like him. Misogynist, filthy, extremely boastful, lying, bellowing your own praises, totally removed of logic, self promoting...gosh I could go on and on, but you know...just like you...?

That's rich coming from supporters of killing babies and the gay agenda rolleyes3.gif
 
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This is causing great anxiety worldwide.
 

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By the same token, we won't ever stop people from wanting to do drugs.

But, we can make it hard for them to get drugs and make those who get caught doing or selling drugs spend substantial time behind bars so they can understand they are committing crimes against society




Only the liberals with their head in the sand are unaware of all the Venezuelan gang members here in the US and their involvement of bringing in drugs.

I guess there's no evidence that murder is really that big of a problem with to you liberals.




We do want to stop our enemies from getting oil and precious metals from Venezuela, AND we want to stop Venezuelan gangs from operating in the US to bring in drugs. This is a good America first policy as it's in the best interest of our national defense as well as the defense of our allies

Both are true and equally important, but the liberals are ignorant of reality having perpetual TDS on the brain.




Yeah, those living in fear continue to fear monger.

Maybe ask your mom to make you a nice cup of hot chocolate and pet your puppy doggies for a while and maybe that will help you feel better.




So another RINO got infected with liberal talking points, big deal.




Blah blah blah, whatever.

Liberals have no common sense and want globalism so they cannot stand to see the US do what's in our own best interests

You people support killing babies and the gay agenda so it's not like you people are in your right minds or anything.




That's rich coming from supporters of killing babies and the gay agenda View attachment 77120
Again with your presumptions

What do you call a presumptuous person?

Synonyms. STRONGEST. arrogant foolhardy overconfident pompous pretentious pushy rude smug. WEAK. audacious bold cheeky conceited confident contumelious egotistic forward fresh insolent overfamiliar overweening presuming rash self-assertive self-assured self-satisfied supercilious uppity.
 
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Again with your presumptions

What do you call a presumptuous person?

Synonyms. STRONGEST. arrogant foolhardy overconfident pompous pretentious pushy rude smug. WEAK. audacious bold cheeky conceited confident contumelious egotistic forward fresh insolent overfamiliar overweening presuming rash self-assertive self-assured self-satisfied supercilious uppity.

How poetic, learned some new English words hlf
 
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Sums up your posts perfectly.

That's what those follow false doctrine keep saying.


This is causing great anxiety worldwide.

Not for real Christians

2 Timothy 1:7
For God hath not given us the spirit of fear; but of power, and of love, and of a sound mind


STRONGEST. arrogant foolhardy overconfident pompous pretentious pushy rude smug. WEAK. audacious bold cheeky conceited confident contumelious egotistic forward fresh insolent overfamiliar overweening presuming rash self-assertive self-assured self-satisfied supercilious uppity.

Well then quit being that way!