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Triumph1300

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Oh the the irony.

Trump who once warned that a weak leader would “start a war with Iran” because he had “no ability to negotiate” is now presiding over a widening regional war.

Rising U.S. casualties, and an energy shock that could ripple through global markets for weeks, months or years.
 
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Oh the the irony.

Trump who once warned that a weak leader would “start a war with Iran” because he had “no ability to negotiate” is now presiding over a widening regional war.
You can't be serious! Trump negotiated with Iran. He gave them every chance to live. They chose death.

Regarding starting a war with Iran; at least it is on our terms where they are already nuclear disarmed and beheaded politically. You falsely believe the world is full of good guys, except Orange man bad.
 
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I think some Christians want Iran to develop nuclear weapons and use them, thinking perhaps that it will bring Jesus back or something.

The rest of the world prefers to live and doesn't share your bizarre beliefs. Hence why Iran cannot be allowed to have nuclear weapons.
 

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According to CNN. But even if we take it at face value, it's understandable why Americans don't like it. Many of us remember the war on terror and how poorly that was executed.

I don't like this either because it has the potential to grow into a larger war. But if we're being realistic, and we should be, allowing Iran to get a nuclear weapon is unacceptable. This should be something that the left and the right agree on.
 
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This type of weapon should be unacceptable world wide

Are the US and Israel going after the other "unfriendly" nations, such as North Korea, China, Russia, etc.?
 

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According to CNN. But even if we take it at face value
I figured that would be posted.
I guess we should be watching Fox?
You have any suggestions where we should be looking for news?
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You believe everything coming out of the White House?
You believe everything coming out of Israel?
 

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Terminal case of TDS.

Perhaps you are unaware of the report that Iran was planning an attack at a US base? IF Trump waited, many more Americans would have died compared to the action he took. Let me say it again; The attack on the Islamic leadership of Iran saved American lives.

In case you have not seen it, Iranians all over the world are celebrating in the streets at the end of Khomeni.



Indeed. We had a false peace before as the snake prepared yet again to strike, lulling us into being passive, easy prey.


Threat assessment is based on 2 axes of consideration: capability and motive. America has no problem with Islamic Pakistan having Nukes because they have no hostile intent against the US. This can't be said of Iran.
The Davis video isn't credible. Lt.Col. Daniel Davis is a Putin Apologist.

Figure that one out.TDS haters are desperate. And not credible.

 

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I think some Christians want Iran to develop nuclear weapons and use them, thinking perhaps that it will bring Jesus back or something.

The rest of the world prefers to live and doesn't share your bizarre beliefs. Hence why Iran cannot be allowed to have nuclear weapons.
They want to pressure God to hurry up? They might want to hold off on that.
I wonder if they think God doesn't know their heart.
 
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Riven

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I figured that would be posted.
I guess we should be watching Fox?
You have any suggestions where we should be looking for news?
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You believe everything coming out of the White House?
You believe everything coming out of Israel?
Independent sources if possible. I wouldn't trust a Fox News poll either. But really, polls are unreliable regardless of where you find them because of a potential bias.

In general, I think most Americans are war weary. That being said, if you ask Americans if it's a good idea to let Iran have nuclear weapons, they'll most certainly say no.

So the ultimate opinion on this is "I don't want Iran to have WMD's, but I also don't want war." The problem with this opinion is that it ignores the reality of how you stop Iran from getting those weapons. Strongly worded letters aren't going to get it done.
 
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Persians and Israelis have a LONG standing relationship of peacefully coexisting.
They actually have gotten along well since Purim. (Book of Esther in scriptures)
Daniel greeted Darius the Mede with a letter to Cyrus from the prophet Isaiah.

There have been and will continue to be Jews, Christian's, Baha'I and non religious people in Iran.

Persia was the home of Abraham before he went West.

The radical Islamic movement.....NOT PERSIAN whatsoever. There was a portion of Iranians who were Muslim.....but it never was a majority. Until they forced everyone upon pain of death to become Muslim.

Most Persians would rather be non-religious....in a culture that still recognizes tribal affiliation but not as strongly as Iraqis do.

Just get over it....Persian women are physically attractive and highly intelligent. The whole race since Babylon has been engineers, mathematicians and scientists.

And excellent farmers for Saffron.....I'm looking forward to getting good saffron again.
 

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Persians and Israelis have a LONG standing relationship of peacefully coexisting.
They actually have gotten along well since Purim. (Book of Esther in scriptures)
Daniel greeted Darius the Mede with a letter to Cyrus from the prophet Isaiah.

There have been and will continue to be Jews, Christian's, Baha'I and non religious people in Iran.

Persia was the home of Abraham before he went West.

The radical Islamic movement.....NOT PERSIAN whatsoever. There was a portion of Iranians who were Muslim.....but it never was a majority. Until they forced everyone upon pain of death to become Muslim.

Most Persians would rather be non-religious....in a culture that still recognizes tribal affiliation but not as strongly as Iraqis do.

Just get over it....Persian women are physically attractive and highly intelligent. The whole race since Babylon has been engineers, mathematicians and scientists.

And excellent farmers for Saffron.....I'm looking forward to getting good saffron again.
Scripturally, Abraham is from Ur of the Chaldeans , modern-day Iraq, not Persia.
 
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And why all the war mongering?
Iran is no danger to US national security.
All this war mongering is by order of Israel's Prime Minister, and your president is sucked into it.
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The US Ambassador to Isreal said that Israel should HAVE ALMOST ALL OF THE MIDDLE EAST.
What the heck is all about THAT? No wonder all Arabs are concerned again!!!

Huckabee, the ambassador, a dangerous Baptist, wants Israel to occupy most of all Arab Nations.
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I can see where this crazy dangerous talk is going.------> All out war!
SAD and Specially because Christians are promoting all of this nonsense!!

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An attack on Iran will lead to all out war in the Middle East.
Higher cost for oil.
Shortage of oil.
Inflation.
Bodybags.
All because Israel's Nethanyaho wants it.
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you barely scratched the surface . OH its deeper than this my friend .
WE are all BEING SET UP for the grand delusion of all .
Cooperations , wealthy banking elites , vatican , kabbala jews
MEN in high places . FRIEND THEY RUN THIS WORLD and they send out the same ag enda
unto all camps and religoins , all p olitics and etc
FLAVORED in such a way that each side will see it as GOOD FOR THEM .
All teh while they pit man against man
and all the while they are brining in the same solution to the very evils and ills they created .
IT ALL A DOG AND PONY SHOW and CURSED is the soul whose trust was and is IN MAN . they AINT GONNNA M:AKE IT FRIEND .
 

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these are true pictures .
but you need to bring a third one . SHOWING the end result of this false promised peace
and utopia . Its gonna show true sheep being rounded up and persecuted
by a strong digital led controlled world . AND ANYTHING that conforms not , CAST OUT .
THEY ARE DECIEVING EVERY LAST ONE OF US on EITHER SIDE .
WE have GOT to abandon any and all hope in men NOW . Sure its gonna cost us some heavey persecutoins
But woe to those who go under this spell . FAR WORSE punishment cometh upon them
ON THE DAY OF THE LORD .
 
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Gender Apartheid in Iran is Crushing Women’s Lives and Futures
Sadly, the @Triumph1300's of the world do not realize the world has a lot of States who would do harm and it's foolish to pretend Trump is the threat to all we hold dear when he's doing everything he can to protect the American way.
 
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Sadly, the @Triumph1300's of the world do not realize the world has a lot of States who would do harm and it's foolish to pretend Trump is the threat to all we hold dear when he's doing everything he can to protect the American way.
They're not concerned with reality or facts.
They claim to be in Canada. Their fixation is with spewing twisted vitriol against Trump and America.
And getting attention for it.

Do they think they sound Christ like?
 
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Scripturally, Abraham is from Ur of the Chaldeans , modern-day Iraq, not Persia.
But it was Persians who were the Magi that brought the gifts to baby Jesus.

The literal first ones to recognize His Kingship, authority, and majesty.

I'm willing to help them out and I believe so is God.
 
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