Trump is dangerous - a Messianic Complex

[Taken]

Trump is dangerous -

Hogwash.

Trump IS a biblical sounding of a warning to listen and pay attention, Before Danger appears for the unprepared.

a Messianic Complex -

Unfamiliar with that term, or its intended meaning.

 

[Wrangler]

this little declaring anathema on, even just potentially being your brothers and sisters in Christ, people is what makes Christianity look bad.

Amen and Amen!

I started a thread some time back on this point about all these "questions" toward one denomination that is barely concealed acrimoneous attack.

 

[Wrangler]

It was watching Christians beat each other over the head with doctrine that was ridiculous

Yup. I point out how there is no doctrinal purity test.

 

[Wrangler]

Odd though it seems, folks can support a man whom they might find personally distasteful if he is personally effective.

It's not odd at all to those who are not indoctinated by the propagandists in the media.

The case against Trump is pathetically weak and one cannot grasp that until one realizes political priorities.

1. Public Policy
2. Resume/track record of success
3. Personal Character
4. Personality

On 1-3, they got nothing! So, all they got is to cast him as so unlikeable, we don't want a despicable man like that in the White House.

Of course, they want to confuse his character with his personality because it appears to strengthen the case. Here is the test of Trump's character. Since being in public office, he's lost money. You cannot say that about Demon-rat President's Clinton, Obama or Biden. Let me say that again. Trump loves this country so much, that he is willing to take the daily attacks that are more vicious than anything we have ever seen AND LOSE money just so he can MAGA.

His character is also working 18-hour days as POTUS for $1 per year. He is the blue collar billionaire (character) who is right on public policy (MAGA), has a resume better than any leader in human history AND people love his tweets that cause Leftist heads to explode.

The dirty little secret is that the Left doesn't hate Trump because he is personally bad. They hate him because he is so effective at not only exposing the evil they seek to advance, but the evil in them. How come Jeffry Epstein's client list has not been made public?

 

[Wrangler]

Yes I agree that is odd. There was a time was when character mattered very much to Christians.

600 successful business. 3 failed businesses. That shows character beyond the scope of most mortals.

 

[amigo de christo]

Just to say, this isn't really an emotional issue for me. And I'm not in some sort of personal rebellion against my circumstances. But if your house has it's walls falling down, don't you want a good carpenter?

Much love!

The HOUSE is falling big time . And its cause folks wont LOOK to He once was a carpenter
but rather to men who they think to be the carpenter this world needs . CHRISTENDOM has fallen
and lest the HOUSE returns to the BUILDER , IT WONT MAKE IT . trump nor biden are the builder .
JESUS IS .

 

[amigo de christo]

When you say "The church is apostate", are you talking about the regenerate? Or those who just call themselves "Christian"?

Much love!

THE REALM OF CHRISTENDOM HAS FALLEN , HAS FALLEN AND BUT A FEW NOW TRULY HEED AND FOLLOW CHRIST .
THIS WORLD AND THIS RELIGOIN OF LOVE SO MANY NOW FOLLOW , IS BUT DEATH LEADING TO THE SECOND DEATH .
IF THAT BRINGETH ANGER , THEN SO BE IT BUT THE CHURCHES HAVE INDEED FALLEN AND FALLEN BIG TIME .
TIME WE BIBLE UP .

 

[Hazelelponi]

It's not odd at all to those who are not indoctinated by the propagandists in the media.

The case against Trump is pathetically weak and one cannot grasp that until one realizes political priorities.

1. Public Policy
2. Resume/track record of success
3. Personal Character
4. Personality

On 1-3, they got nothing! So, all they got is to cast him as so unlikeable, we don't want a despicable man like that in the White House.

Of course, they want to confuse his character with his personality because it appears to strengthen the case. Here is the test of Trump's character. Since being in public office, he's lost money. You cannot say that about Demon-rat President's Clinton, Obama or Biden. Let me say that again. Trump loves this country so much, that he is willing to take the daily attacks that are more vicious than anything we have ever seen AND LOSE money just so he can MAGA.

His character is also working 18-hour days as POTUS for $1 per year. He is the blue collar billionaire (character) who is right on public policy (MAGA), has a resume better than any leader in human history AND people love his tweets that cause Leftist heads to explode.

The dirty little secret is that the Left doesn't hate Trump because he is personally bad. They hate him because he is so effective at not only exposing the evil they seek to advance, but the evil in them. How come Jeffry Epstein's client list has not been made public?
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You know I was going to point that out to someone. Trump's record in office is all anyone needs to know.

Did Trump's policies in action end with a net benefit, a net good for the American people?

His border polices gave our country security as well as protected asylum seekers who really needed asylum.

He placed good supreme court justices on the supreme court, couldn't have found better ones anywhere to serve.

Our foreign policy wasn't inviting WW3..

The country, indeed the whole world is blowing up under Joe Biden...

Trump put his reputation, his livelihood, everything on the line to fight for just simply what's right.

You have to ask yourself every single day why people hate him, when in policies he's not different than any traditional American was raised from birth to believe is positive.

I mean, does the flood of evil coming after us prove they just hate Jesus and His way for man?

I think so, because it's far more than just some people wanting a few positive public policies and supporting a candidate now.

Every good thing is called evil and every evil they call good. They will lie, they will steal, they will play every single dirty trick in the book to win, and they are out for blood...

All to stop these policies from being enacted. It's insane. Really, truly insane.

And it's from every single possible side. It's coming from Christians, we can't be Christian if we want America to run on positive public policies.

it's coming from non Christian's - we are racists every single day of the week regardless of our skin color, even Ramaswamy was called a white supremacist... Lol.

Anyone who wants to uphold the nations foundational principles is literally hated by the whole world. Hated. Lied about. Our characters attacked.

I feel every day anymore like I'm fighting Satan in the battle of Armageddon, just because I prefer good policies.

i shouldn't have to feel like that. Not from my fellow brothers and sisters in Christ. I get it from non believers, I don't from Christians.

 

[marks]

Bible says we are to discern between the holy and the profane

To me it's more a matter of defending those not able to defend themselves.

Much love!

 

[Hazelelponi]

To me it's more a matter of defending those not able to defend themselves.

Much love!

And this is it. I could stop talking to people unless I run into them in person.

I am on my mountain and I am home. I have no needs that God has not fulfilled.

I can close the front door so to speak and never concern myself with any of this ever again.

I have mine.

I'm good for the long haul here no matter what happens and when it really comes down to it I'm quite comfortable with my own death. I'm saved and I'm not worried about standing before God when that day comes.

But not everyone is okay. So why not stand for those who can't stand for themselves?

Is this not the Christian thing?

 

[marks]

I'm good for the long haul here no matter what happens and when it really comes down to it I'm quite comfortable with my own death. I'm saved and I'm not worried about standing before God when that day comes.

But not everyone is okay. So why not stand for those who can't stand for themselves?

Is this not the Christian thing?

John 13:1-5 KJV
1) Now before the feast of the passover, when Jesus knew that his hour was come that he should depart out of this world unto the Father, having loved his own which were in the world, he loved them unto the end.
2) And supper being ended, the devil having now put into the heart of Judas Iscariot, Simon's son, to betray him;
3) Jesus knowing that the Father had given all things into his hands, and that he was come from God, and went to God;
4) He riseth from supper, and laid aside his garments; and took a towel, and girded himself.
5) After that he poureth water into a bason, and began to wash the disciples' feet, and to wipe them with the towel wherewith he was girded.

I believe that yes, this IS the Christian way.

Much love!

 

[Big Boy Johnson]

I think what is tripping up Jews as well as Christians along these lines is the idea of the 1000 year reign. Jews are looking to make a 1000 year utopia on earth and so are many Christians.

I'm leaving that to the Lord... He will get this done and He just needs us to trust Him and be in agreement with Him... He does not need anybody's help in getting His 1000 year reign underway when the time comes since He is all powerful.

 

[amigo de christo]

To me it's more a matter of defending those not able to defend themselves.

Much love!

This is often a quoate from the social justice gospel warriors . We better watch out
cause this agenda is within the conservative churches as well .
To me it is a matter of PREACHING the GOSPEL of HE WHO CAN SAVE and doing good to the peoples .
Watch out mark . watch out . If you really want to help the peoples , we bess point them to JESUS CHRIST .

 

[amigo de christo]

Our kingdom is not of this world . our kingdom cannot be moved .
But soon the earthen kingdoms , cities and houses will all come crashing down .
My advice remains the same . PUT all HOPE in the LORD , Be HEAVENLY MINDED hoping in THAT CITY which is to come
and doing all to get others to have the same hope , the same trust , IN GOD , IN CHRIST and not in men .

 

[amigo de christo]

It's not odd at all to those who are not indoctinated by the propagandists in the media.

The case against Trump is pathetically weak and one cannot grasp that until one realizes political priorities.

1. Public Policy
2. Resume/track record of success
3. Personal Character
4. Personality

On 1-3, they got nothing! So, all they got is to cast him as so unlikeable, we don't want a despicable man like that in the White House.

Of course, they want to confuse his character with his personality because it appears to strengthen the case. Here is the test of Trump's character. Since being in public office, he's lost money. You cannot say that about Demon-rat President's Clinton, Obama or Biden. Let me say that again. Trump loves this country so much, that he is willing to take the daily attacks that are more vicious than anything we have ever seen AND LOSE money just so he can MAGA.

His character is also working 18-hour days as POTUS for $1 per year. He is the blue collar billionaire (character) who is right on public policy (MAGA), has a resume better than any leader in human history AND people love his tweets that cause Leftist heads to explode.

The dirty little secret is that the Left doesn't hate Trump because he is personally bad. They hate him because he is so effective at not only exposing the evil they seek to advance, but the evil in them. How come Jeffry Epstein's client list has not been made public?
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Trust not in media . ITS TANKED BIG TIME .
Trust not in men
no, not in govts , nor politicains . Many now are under the influence of the darkness that is and has portrayed itself as light .
Many are now under the influence of a love and of unity that has led them to the darkness they now see as light
to the love of the world that they now think To be THE LOVE OF GOD .
Many will not make it . For they refuse and have refused to bend the knee to GOD , to CHRIST
but rather have rejected the biblical truth of what was taught and heaped unto themselves
teachers who through guise of what they call love , tolerance , unity , they have reaped destruction unto themselves .

 

[Lizbeth]

This is often a quoate from the social justice gospel warriors . We better watch out
cause this agenda is within the conservative churches as well .
To me it is a matter of PREACHING the GOSPEL of HE WHO CAN SAVE and doing good to the peoples .
Watch out mark . watch out . If you really want to help the peoples , we bess point them to JESUS CHRIST .

Amen brother.

I hope you will not be scoffed at and guffawed for this. The gospel is foolishness to the natural man.

 

[Hazelelponi]

This will be controversial to some, but I just ask that it be considered. I think what is tripping up Jews as well as Christians along these lines is the idea of the 1000 year reign

I am personally Amillenial.

This means I do believe we are living right now in the 1,000 years reign - the 1,000 years just being an indeterminate time between the resurrection and the second coming.

I believe Christ's second coming will occur with little to no warning.

And I also believe Scripture shows that things in the world will get better and better, and then at one point society the world over will decline prior to The Second Advent.

I agree with you that how we see eschatology is sharply affecting how they are reacting to the present moment.

For instance I, though I know that Christ can return any minute, I also have to act like He could also continue to tarry another 1,000 of our own years.

It's silly to decide, just because things are bad today, that we couldn't overcome the problems and challenges we face in our society, even though to our eyes it seems insurmountable.

I'm sure our people have faced worse than this. In Christ all things are possible.

But Christians with different eschatological views will and are responding quite a bit differently... Not treating the problems of our day as challenges to be tackled in, with and through Christ...

I think this right here is what is making the political landscape so messy, and what's more I almost think this is a concerted, strategic effort to make people believe this is the end, to force people to react instead of think.

We are facing a challenge, socialism is taking over the country, but in Christ there's no challenge we can't overcome. And that's just honest.

Whether He comes back tomorrow or not shouldn't matter to the actions we take.

 

[Mr E]

I am personally Amillenial.

This means I do believe we are living right now in the 1,000 years reign - the 1,000 years just being an indeterminate time between the resurrection and the second coming.

I believe Christ's second coming will occur with little to no warning.

And I also believe Scripture shows that things in the world will get better and better, and then at one point society the world over will decline prior to The Second Advent.

I agree with you that how we see eschatology is sharply affecting how they are reacting to the present moment.

For instance I, though I know that Christ can return any minute, I also have to act like He could also continue to tarry another 1,000 of our own years.

It's silly to decide, just because things are bad today, that we couldn't overcome the problems and challenges we face in our society, even though to our eyes it seems insurmountable.

I'm sure our people have faced worse than this. In Christ all things are possible.

But Christians with different eschatological views will and are responding quite a bit differently... Not treating the problems of our day as challenges to be tackled in, with and through Christ...

I think this right here is what is making the political landscape so messy, and what's more I almost think this is a concerted, strategic effort to make people believe this is the end, to force people to react instead of think.

We are facing a challenge, socialism is taking over the country, but in Christ there's no challenge we can't overcome. And that's just honest.

Whether He comes back tomorrow or not shouldn't matter to the actions we take.

Great perspective.

Folks forget historical examples of revival and renewal and even a sort of national repentance, where (primarily through leadership) entire countries "get right with God" or have reversals after periods of both success or decline. The Roman empire became "Christian" at the time of Constantine, for better or for worse.... Daniel was taken into captivity in Babylon, and like Joseph in Egypt who had been sold into slavery-- both rose to positions of great power and authority. Cyrus (the great), though a Persian king, became "Christ" in the truest sense of the word-- anointed by God for a purpose and he led the reforms that saw Jerusalem restored and reoccupied and again-- for better or for worse, -the temple rebuilt. He became a liberator of the Jews.

Thus says the Lord to his anointed, to Cyrus, whom he has taken by his right hand to subdue nations before him and strip the loins of kings, to force gateways before him that their gates be closed no more: I will go before you levelling the heights. I will shatter the bronze gateways, smash the iron bars. I will give you the hidden treasures, the secret hoards, that you may know that I am the Lord.


These are not mere stories.

 

[Hazelelponi]

Amen!

@Mr E

 

[marks]

This is often a quoate from the social justice gospel warriors . We better watch out
cause this agenda is within the conservative churches as well .
To me it is a matter of PREACHING the GOSPEL of HE WHO CAN SAVE and doing good to the peoples .
Watch out mark . watch out . If you really want to help the peoples , we bess point them to JESUS CHRIST .

Of course, we share Christ with others. Do you think I'm advocating we don't??

But that doesn't mean I'm just going to just walk past, ignoring the person who actually needs some help.

There no need or purpose to paint my desire to defend those who cannot defend themselves as some Leftist mantra. That's actually rather distasteful to me. No greater love has a man than this, that he lay down his life for his friends. Doesn't that suggest a life or death struggle to you?

Do you believe in simply allowing others to take care of themselves, without your help, even if it kills them?

I'd say, be careful about that kind of mindset. "Be safe, and protected!" but I won't lift a finger to help you?

There is a time for peace, and a time for war.

Much love!