Trump is dangerous - a Messianic Complex

[Arthur81]

I support fully so much of the policy decisions President Trump has made and put into effect. I voted for him in 2016 and 2020 and also supported his Presidential run with money. His narcissism in the past I attributed to a sense of humor that was geared to tweak and arouse the anger of leftists and RINOs. Now I am seeing his narcissism has become solidly how he truly thinks. This is dangerous for his belief that he can never be wrong has gone to extreme. The following statements in that video are repulsive to me as a believer in Jesus the Christ, Jesus the Messiah sent to save his people:

“And on June 14, 1946, God looked down on his planned paradise and said, ‘I need a caretaker,’ so God gave us Trump.”

The Trump video includes repeated religious references and quotations from the Bible. A narrator describes Trump as one who “follow(s) the path and remain(s) strong in faith.”

Trump, "strong in the faith"???? The only faith Trump evidences is faith in himself, not faith in God or the American people. I do not like making a political commercial or whatever they call it, of a human being being described in like manner as when God the Father sent God the Son to earth to save his people. That seems blasphemous to my thinking.

In 2016 and 2020 I passed Trump off as our modern day Cyrus, not a child of God by faith in Christ, but he was used by God to make certain policy decisions to give opening for Christians to live and breathe freely under our government. His Roe Vs Wade view on appointing the 3 Supreme Court Justices was his greatest achievement; and, he did seem to try to stop the flow of illegals into the USA, with intense opposition by Leftists and de facto Communists in this country.

While Governor DeSantis is not great on a debate stage, nor is he an imposing presence; in Florida he did excellent work, and kept his finger on most things happening in the State. Governor DeSantis is fully conservative and effective in an executive position like Governor and President. I'll vote for DeSantis in the primary and hopefully in Nov. 2024; but I'm concerned Trump will win the nomination even with all the personal baggage he'll have. I'll end up either voting 3rd Party or not vote in the Presidential choice part of the ballot. There are two sayings I've considered: "Don't vote for the lesser of two evils for it is still evil"; or "Don't reject the good for an insistence on the perfect." I may not have the exact wording, but that is the substance.

In the past I could view Trump as our Cyrus, today I must reject him for his increased narcissism which has become extreme and no longer humorous. We can have good Christian and conservative values in Gov. Ron DeSantis without so much underlying wickedness. He has proven himself as an efficient executive in the State of Florida.

 

[TLHKAJ]

I agree with so much of what you've stated ....except, I don't believe anyone will fix the government. I know that's not what you said. But I don't believe anyone will come into the WH and be a good Christian.

 

[Arthur81]

I agree with so much of what you've stated ....except, I don't believe anyone will fix the government. I know that's not what you said. But I don't believe anyone will come into the WH and be a good Christian.

I agree with your assessment of the situation. I am convinced the USA is under the severe judgment of God and the key I see is how the judgment on ancient Israel is described:

"My people—children are their oppressors, and women rule over them. O my people, your leaders mislead you, and confuse the course of your paths." (Isa 3:12 NRSV)

Who is actually in command in the modern home? It is the women and usually the disobedient offspring. Starting at Gen. 3:16 on through the entire Bible, OT and NT, man is the leader of and has the rule in family and government. We are now in the situation where a woman seems to be the strongest challenger to Trump; if you can rely with any confidence at all on the polls.

Even when the man claims rule in the home, it is too often an empty claim for the wife is pulling the strings of her puppet husband:

"Hear this word, you cows of Bashan who are on Mount Samaria, who oppress the poor, who crush the needy, who say to their husbands, 'Bring something to drink!'” (Amos 4:1 NRSV)

 

[TLHKAJ]

"My people—children are their oppressors, and women rule over them. O my people, your leaders mislead you, and confuse the course of your paths." (Isa 3:12 NRSV)

Who is actually in command in the modern home? It is the women and usually the disobedient offspring. Starting at Gen. 3:16 on through the entire Bible, OT and NT, man is the leader of and has the rule in family and government. We are now in the situation where a woman seems to be the strongest challenger to Trump; if you can rely with any confidence at all on the polls.

Even when the man claims rule in the home, it is too often an empty claim for the wife is pulling the strings of her puppet husband:

I disagree. You've taken that verse out of context.

I don't see many women ruling their husbands.... at all. In fact, I see women all but begging their husbands to stand in their rightful place as the head of the home. That's certainly what I've done for 30+ years. Men have either been dictators, or spineless jellyfish who allow other men to rule their families. That's what I've seen over and over and over .....with 2 or 3 examples here and there through the years of an overbearing woman (which honestly turns my stomach!!). But that wouldn't be the case if the man would stand up and be a man ....loving his wife as Christ loved the church and gave Himself for it. The natural response of a woman to that sort of man is love and respect and honor.

Don't use the flimsy excuse that it's the woman's fault that a man has no spine. Who did God create first? And to whom did God give the responsibility of keeping the garden? Men..... look at Christ. HE is your example of what sort of husband you should be!

 

[Bob Estey]

I support fully so much of the policy decisions President Trump has made and put into effect. I voted for him in 2016 and 2020 and also supported his Presidential run with money. His narcissism in the past I attributed to a sense of humor that was geared to tweak and arouse the anger of leftists and RINOs. Now I am seeing his narcissism has become solidly how he truly thinks. This is dangerous for his belief that he can never be wrong has gone to extreme. The following statements in that video are repulsive to me as a believer in Jesus the Christ, Jesus the Messiah sent to save his people:

“And on June 14, 1946, God looked down on his planned paradise and said, ‘I need a caretaker,’ so God gave us Trump.”

The Trump video includes repeated religious references and quotations from the Bible. A narrator describes Trump as one who “follow(s) the path and remain(s) strong in faith.”

Trump, "strong in the faith"???? The only faith Trump evidences is faith in himself, not faith in God or the American people. I do not like making a political commercial or whatever they call it, of a human being being described in like manner as when God the Father sent God the Son to earth to save his people. That seems blasphemous to my thinking.

In 2016 and 2020 I passed Trump off as our modern day Cyrus, not a child of God by faith in Christ, but he was used by God to make certain policy decisions to give opening for Christians to live and breathe freely under our government. His Roe Vs Wade view on appointing the 3 Supreme Court Justices was his greatest achievement; and, he did seem to try to stop the flow of illegals into the USA, with intense opposition by Leftists and de facto Communists in this country.

While Governor DeSantis is not great on a debate stage, nor is he an imposing presence; in Florida he did excellent work, and kept his finger on most things happening in the State. Governor DeSantis is fully conservative and effective in an executive position like Governor and President. I'll vote for DeSantis in the primary and hopefully in Nov. 2024; but I'm concerned Trump will win the nomination even with all the personal baggage he'll have. I'll end up either voting 3rd Party or not vote in the Presidential choice part of the ballot. There are two sayings I've considered: "Don't vote for the lesser of two evils for it is still evil"; or "Don't reject the good for an insistence on the perfect." I may not have the exact wording, but that is the substance.

In the past I could view Trump as our Cyrus, today I must reject him for his increased narcissism which has become extreme and no longer humorous. We can have good Christian and conservative values in Gov. Ron DeSantis without so much underlying wickedness. He has proven himself as an efficient executive in the State of Florida.

Trump has been persecuted beyond measure. No one is perfect. I think he was a really good president, and I think he'd make a really good president again.

 

[JBO]

Trump has been persecuted beyond measure. No one is perfect. I think he was a really good president, and I think he'd make a really good president again.

I agree mostly with that also. However, Trump is not a conservative in the sense of being for a small government. And that is a critical piece of what is needed in the government today. He is, or seems thus far to be, a big government president.

I feel certain that he is going to be the Republican nominee for President. I will vote for him. Anyone but a democrat. They, the political leaders, have all but abandoned the Constitution of the United States. They are Socialists big time. And for what it is worth, there is only nuanced differences between Socialism, Communism, Fascism and Nazism. They are all central planning Statists placing the government over and above the individual.

 

[Hobie]

I support fully so much of the policy decisions President Trump has made and put into effect. I voted for him in 2016 and 2020 and also supported his Presidential run with money. His narcissism in the past I attributed to a sense of humor that was geared to tweak and arouse the anger of leftists and RINOs. Now I am seeing his narcissism has become solidly how he truly thinks. This is dangerous for his belief that he can never be wrong has gone to extreme. The following statements in that video are repulsive to me as a believer in Jesus the Christ, Jesus the Messiah sent to save his people:

“And on June 14, 1946, God looked down on his planned paradise and said, ‘I need a caretaker,’ so God gave us Trump.”

The Trump video includes repeated religious references and quotations from the Bible. A narrator describes Trump as one who “follow(s) the path and remain(s) strong in faith.”

Trump, "strong in the faith"???? The only faith Trump evidences is faith in himself, not faith in God or the American people. I do not like making a political commercial or whatever they call it, of a human being being described in like manner as when God the Father sent God the Son to earth to save his people. That seems blasphemous to my thinking.

In 2016 and 2020 I passed Trump off as our modern day Cyrus, not a child of God by faith in Christ, but he was used by God to make certain policy decisions to give opening for Christians to live and breathe freely under our government. His Roe Vs Wade view on appointing the 3 Supreme Court Justices was his greatest achievement; and, he did seem to try to stop the flow of illegals into the USA, with intense opposition by Leftists and de facto Communists in this country.

While Governor DeSantis is not great on a debate stage, nor is he an imposing presence; in Florida he did excellent work, and kept his finger on most things happening in the State. Governor DeSantis is fully conservative and effective in an executive position like Governor and President. I'll vote for DeSantis in the primary and hopefully in Nov. 2024; but I'm concerned Trump will win the nomination even with all the personal baggage he'll have. I'll end up either voting 3rd Party or not vote in the Presidential choice part of the ballot. There are two sayings I've considered: "Don't vote for the lesser of two evils for it is still evil"; or "Don't reject the good for an insistence on the perfect." I may not have the exact wording, but that is the substance.

In the past I could view Trump as our Cyrus, today I must reject him for his increased narcissism which has become extreme and no longer humorous. We can have good Christian and conservative values in Gov. Ron DeSantis without so much underlying wickedness. He has proven himself as an efficient executive in the State of Florida.

Hmm, I just looked at the video, not good. I always thought it was just a New York thing, but I think you are on point here.

 

[Big Boy Johnson]

Joe Bribem is MO dangerous - a Communist Complex

 

[n2thelight]

Joe Bribem is MO dangerous - a Communist Complex
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Trump Businesses Received $7.8 Million From Foreign Countries During Presidency, House Reports​

KEY FACTS​

The government of China was the largest spender at Trump properties, according to the report, spending a total of $5,572,548 at Trump Tower and the Trump International Hotels in Washington, D.C. and Las Vegas.

Notably, Trump chose not to impose sanctions on ICBC, a Chinese bank that the Justice Department alleged was helping North Korea avoid sanctions (ICBC’s U.S. headquarters is located at Trump Tower, and paid Trump approximately $7 million in rent at Trump Tower, according to Forbes reporting).


Saudi Arabia also spent an estimated $615,422, the majority of which was sent through a monthly $11,189.21 rent for a property on the 45th floor in Trump Tower.

Meanwhile, Trump signed off on a $100 billion arms deal, and became the first U.S. president to make Saudi Arabia his first foreign visit in office.
The United Arab Emirates spent $65,225 at the Trump International Hotel in Washington over seven months while the Gulf nation was pushing the U.S. to support a blockade of its neighbor Qatar.
The government of India, where Trump owns his largest portfolio of foreign businesses, spent $282,764—mostly on monthly rent for two apartments at Trump Tower.

Now show Biddens wrongs

 

[Big Boy Johnson]

Trump Businesses Received $7.8 Million From Foreign Countries During Presidency, House Reports

Yeah that's the thing about owning hotels and resorts... people pay money to stay there so they are paying for a legitimate service.

On the other hand Joe Bribem and family members have been getting millions for seemingly no reason whatsoever... which is sketchy, very sketchy!

 

[Hazelelponi]

Joe Bribem is MO dangerous - a Communist Complex
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To me the one's who are dangerous are the ones running around for the last 8 years telling us how dangerous Trump is.

I mean, it wasn't the Trump administration paying foreign governments to create fake dossier, practically suspending the free speech of Americans, trying to jail their political opponents and trying to remove the opposition's front runner from the ballot....

I just get so tired of hearing how dangerous it is to not be a communist, when it's clear the opposite is true.

Vote Trump 2024!

 

[TLHKAJ]

What's dangerous are those so militant to support Trump that they stated on this very forum that they believed Trump's supporters should take up arms (guns) and go to the WH on January 6th. This is scary!!

 

[Wick Stick]

Men are supposed to be dangerous. If you've elected a man as the head of your country, and he's NOT dangerous, then you elected a WEENIE.

That being said, I also find Mr. Trump's narcissism distasteful. Not so much that I'd vote for that sock-puppet Biden, but it is a problem.

I might vote for Kennedy. The media hates him, and he has real enemies in the pharmaceutical industry... and those 2 things seem like pretty good endorsements to me.

 

[marks]

To me the one's who are dangerous are the ones running around for the last 8 years telling us how dangerous Trump is.

I mean, it wasn't the Trump administration paying foreign governments to create fake dossier, practically suspending the free speech of Americans, trying to jail their political opponents and trying to remove the opposition's front runner from the ballot....

I just get so tired of hearing how dangerous it is to not be a communist, when it's clear the opposite is true.

Vote Trump 2024!

Just so!!

Much love!

 

[Wrangler]

Trump, "strong in the faith"???? The only faith Trump evidences is faith in himself, not faith in God or the American people.

Then you are blind! Trump was God's anointed in 2016 and I believe in 2024 again. Read Steve Ciocallanti's book. Trump's Unfinished Business - published before the 2020 election.

Trump Businesses Received $7.8 Million From Foreign Countries During Presidency, House Reports​

KEY FACTS​

The government of China was the largest spender at Trump properties

Now show Biddens wrongs

There is nothing wrong with a business receiving payment for services rendered.

Nevertrumpers are trying to pretend foreign governments spending any money affiliated with Trump's businesses is bribery persuant to Constitutional prohibitions. It's not; it's not money paid to Trump for being POTUS.

Bidden's wrongs are legion.

WSJ Opinion: Oversight Committee Evidence Proves Joe Biden Benefitted From His Family Cashing In On His Name - United States House Committee on Oversight and Accountability

United States House Committee on Oversight and Accountability

oversight.house.gov

https://www.reuters.com/article/idUSKBN1WX1P6/

 

[MA2444]

I support fully so much of the policy decisions President Trump has made and put into effect. I voted for him in 2016 and 2020 and also supported his Presidential run with money. His narcissism in the past I attributed to a sense of humor that was geared to tweak and arouse the anger of leftists and RINOs. Now I am seeing his narcissism has become solidly how he truly thinks. This is dangerous for his belief that he can never be wrong has gone to extreme. The following statements in that video are repulsive to me as a believer in Jesus the Christ, Jesus the Messiah sent to save his people:

“And on June 14, 1946, God looked down on his planned paradise and said, ‘I need a caretaker,’ so God gave us Trump.”

The Trump video includes repeated religious references and quotations from the Bible. A narrator describes Trump as one who “follow(s) the path and remain(s) strong in faith.”

Trump, "strong in the faith"???? The only faith Trump evidences is faith in himself, not faith in God or the American people. I do not like making a political commercial or whatever they call it, of a human being being described in like manner as when God the Father sent God the Son to earth to save his people. That seems blasphemous to my thinking.

In 2016 and 2020 I passed Trump off as our modern day Cyrus, not a child of God by faith in Christ, but he was used by God to make certain policy decisions to give opening for Christians to live and breathe freely under our government. His Roe Vs Wade view on appointing the 3 Supreme Court Justices was his greatest achievement; and, he did seem to try to stop the flow of illegals into the USA, with intense opposition by Leftists and de facto Communists in this country.

While Governor DeSantis is not great on a debate stage, nor is he an imposing presence; in Florida he did excellent work, and kept his finger on most things happening in the State. Governor DeSantis is fully conservative and effective in an executive position like Governor and President. I'll vote for DeSantis in the primary and hopefully in Nov. 2024; but I'm concerned Trump will win the nomination even with all the personal baggage he'll have. I'll end up either voting 3rd Party or not vote in the Presidential choice part of the ballot. There are two sayings I've considered: "Don't vote for the lesser of two evils for it is still evil"; or "Don't reject the good for an insistence on the perfect." I may not have the exact wording, but that is the substance.

In the past I could view Trump as our Cyrus, today I must reject him for his increased narcissism which has become extreme and no longer humorous. We can have good Christian and conservative values in Gov. Ron DeSantis without so much underlying wickedness. He has proven himself as an efficient executive in the State of Florida.

I think that we should remember that Trump isnt a Politician. And even if Trump was visited by the Lord like they say, what would Trump be if he was converted and became a real Christian for the Lord?He would be just like us, still struggling still searching and making mistakes. The guy is only human. So he has a past? So do I. So do you.

If it did indeed happen that Trump was visited by the Lord shortly after taking office, then I am guessing that Trump did become a Christian. When Jesus visits you personally, the people tend to convert! It doesn't mean he wont make mistakes, for he is on the same path as we all are. And scripture says by their fruits we will know them...

Trump has visible fruit! He did a lot of good for this country while he was in office. Gas was 2 bucks a gallon. He did start draining the swamp but he didn't have time to finish it. I think Trump need our support and prayers. I suspect the 2024 election will tell us a lot. If Trump is not God's man, then he wont be able to overcome the elite and win. But if Trump is God's man, then Trump has another term because no one can stop God!

 

[Mr E]

Men are supposed to be dangerous. If you've elected a man as the head of your country, and he's NOT dangerous, then you elected a WEENIE.

That being said, I also find Mr. Trump's narcissism distasteful. Not so much that I'd vote for that sock-puppet Biden, but it is a problem.

I might vote for Kennedy. The media hates him, and he has real enemies in the pharmaceutical industry... and those 2 things seem like pretty good endorsements to me.

Seems like a solid choice.

Robert F. Kennedy Jr. supports legal access to abortion. However, he said in 2023 he would support a 15-week federal ban, then said he misspoke.

 

[MA2444]

Then you are blind! Trump was God's anointed in 2016 and I believe in 2024 again. Read Steve Ciocallanti's book. Trump's Unfinished Business - published before the 2020 election.

I think you are the first one I've seen to hear these things too besides me. I didn't read Steve Ciccolanti's book but I've heard him talk some about it and some other pastors too.

 

[Big Boy Johnson]

This is scary!!

To the feeble minded...

You can relax... this nation is going down the tubes and there's not going to be a revolution to rescue this nation from tuning communist as the liberals are planning

 

[Hazelelponi]

What's dangerous are those so militant to support Trump that they stated on this very forum that they believed Trump's supporters should take up arms (guns) and go to the WH on January 6th. This is scary!!

Going to the rally would be fine, a protest is a protest is a protest... Anyone who wants to sign wave is allowed to do that in this country.

But your correct in that "taking up arms" isn't the answer.

I don't know what to believe on whether the actual votes of people were messed with and when there's a question you have to give the benefit of the doubt;

However, I used my Facebook account - my real name - among other social media accounts like my Twitter account - to stump for Trump in 2016 because I was real excited about him as a candidate and it was a quite effective way of reaching people to talk to them about the issues and to correct the record when media would take what Trump said out of context.

However 2020 was a different story, I spent all of it being constantly censored, they didn't even let me post a link to the FBI's website to correct the record on some facts once, told me if I tried posting again they would close my Facebook account - all because I was trying to show a set of facts that our own government had posted on their official website.

I gave up at one point, which was the point and they were doing it to American citizens all over. Real Americans - not "Russian operatives". They were allowing the people who were cussing and spitting to post nasty things but people like me who were respectful and just trying to share facts in support of Trump were being silenced everywhere.

The Big tech effort to keep Trump out of office was massive, and that is campaign advertising dollars that were going directly into Joe Bidens campaign - because they were silencing everyone so only one narrative could be heard. The one the Biden campaign and the democratic party approved...

that's a crime, because this was billions upon billions upon billions of dollars worth of advertising when your doing everything in your power to silence all views but one side.

And it IS stealing the election. We have laws, and every single one possible was broken to put Biden in the white house.

As an American citizen who has never sign waved in her life (and has always found protest silly) that made ME want to go march at a rally. I'm disabled of course so no rallies for me.. (and it's probably the first time in my life I later found myself grateful for disability...lol) but wanting my voice heard as an American citizen after a year of being silenced was strong enough to want to.

so I get the rally and the right doing the sign waving thing, even though I think Pence did what he was required under the law. People were tired and it is true, from almost any angle you want to look it was a stolen election.

It for darn sure wasn't a free and fair election, for the first time in American history.

If I trusted the UN (which I don't) I'd be asking for international oversight of this election... I think we need something to protect us...the government won't.