Two Interesting Judgments

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Justin Mangonel

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Hi All,

I believe that God is in the process of judging America but maybe not as some people might think.

1. Literally trillions of dollars are being transferred from our country to predominently Muslim countries

that do not like us but are, on balance, more moral that we are.

2. God is giving America to the hispanics which value family and are pro-life.
 

THE Gypsy

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God is not the god of this world. Why is everything attributed to Him? There are other forces at work here, evil ones. The bar in America is indeed being lowered...by the enemy...to equalize the balance of power.

The money being transferred to Muslim countries is being used to elevate those countries to a status of prominence. Things don't just happen over night or at the twitch of a nose. There are baby steps to be taken to balance political/world power.

God is not "giving America" to anyone. Others without a true understanding of what America stood for are using the defining principles against her and they are taking America.

God is not concerned with the cares of this world. He is interested in the heart and soul of mankind. Anything else is simply a distraction from His plan for the lives of His children.
 

Justin Mangonel

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Hi G,

I must respectfully disagree with your assertion that God is not concerned with the cares of this world. We have ample Bilbical evidence that He is. The flood, the Tower of Babel, Assyria and Babylon being moved against Israel ...it is everywhere in the Bible. God is influencing the course of human history all the time.

So, I do believe that God has counted those who currently hold power as lacking and is allowing the Hispanic population to grow and prosper towards the end of replacing a very sinful people with a people a better moral values. You and others can debate whether this is acutally the case but it is a scriptural fact that God does care about and intervene in the affiars of this world.
 

THE Gypsy

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Hi G,

I must respectfully disagree with your assertion that God is not concerned with the cares of this world. We have ample Bilbical evidence that He is. The flood, the Tower of Babel, Assyria and Babylon being moved against Israel ...it is everywhere in the Bible. God is influencing the course of human history all the time.

So, I do believe that God has counted those who currently hold power as lacking and is allowing the Hispanic population to grow and prosper towards the end of replacing a very sinful people with a people a better moral values. You and others can debate whether this is acutally the case but it is a scriptural fact that God does care about and intervene in the affiars of this world.

Interesting. Christ had something a little different to say about that...

Mark 4:18-19 And these are they which are sown among thorns; such as hear the word, (o. logos) 19 And the cares of this world, and the deceitfulness of riches, and the lusts of other things entering in, choke the word, (o. logos) and it becomes unfruitful.
 

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THE Gypsy said:
God is not the god of this world. Why is everything attributed to Him? There are other forces at work here, evil ones. The bar in America is indeed being lowered...by the enemy...to equalize the balance of power.

The money being transferred to Muslim countries is being used to elevate those countries to a status of prominence. Things don't just happen over night or at the twitch of a nose. There are baby steps to be taken to balance political/world power.

God is not "giving America" to anyone. Others without a true understanding of what America stood for are using the defining principles against her and they are taking America.

God is not concerned with the cares of this world. He is interested in the heart and soul of mankind. Anything else is simply a distraction from His plan for the lives of His children.
Job 12:9 Who knoweth not in all these the hand of the Lord hath wrought this?(emphasis on all)
 

Foreigner

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God took a personal interest when he had Noah build the ark.
And when he put Jonah back on dry land to warn Ninevah
And when he listened to Abraham try to negotiate about Sodom and Gommorah
God even sent prophets to His own people the Israelites to warn them to get their act together

I am in the middle of a book called "The Harbinger" by Jonathan Cahn.
Written as fiction it describes how God removed the hedge around Israel and let the Assyrians first attack them.
He did this in order to give Israel a chance to repent and come back to Him.
They of course didn't, instead choosing to rebel even further and thus God gave the Israelites over completely.

I believe God has had His hand on America for generations.
We have in no ways been perfect, but we have been a beacon of good for the rest of the world.

But over the last two generations especially we have completely turned our backs on God as a nation.
I believe He is simply returning the favor.
 

Pelaides

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Justin Mangonel said:
Hi All,

I believe that God is in the process of judging America but maybe not as some people might think.

1. Literally trillions of dollars are being transferred from our country to predominently Muslim countries

that do not like us but are, on balance, more moral that we are.

2. God is giving America to the hispanics which value family and are pro-life.
America has in fact become an abomination that could rival "babylon or "sodom",But i think the forces of Satan are more responsible for this than any thing else.And your statement about the hispanics is silly,if not prejudicial.If being pro-family and pro-life were the determining factors in who wields power,The "mormans and the Quakers would rule the country.
 

aspen

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blah, blah, blaaaaaaaah........
you are describing the human condition post-fall.
The real question is 'why are you surprised?
Stop looking to man to lead you to God. trust his spirit alone
 

Foreigner

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Pelaides said:
America has in fact become an abomination that could rival "babylon or "sodom",But i think the forces of Satan are more responsible for this than any thing else.
-- True, but one must keep in mind that the only time the 'forces of Satan' can do anything in someone's life without that person first inviting them to, is if God Himself first gives permission.
 

Pelaides

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Foreigner said:
-- True, but one must keep in mind that the only time the 'forces of Satan' can do anything in someone's life without that person first inviting them to, is if God Himself first gives permission.
Satan and his angels are like varmints,they pop up everywhere.You must use pest control (faith and prayer)to keep their numbers down.