UK becomes an Orwellian dystopian state.

[Scott Downey]

Britain is fast becoming an Orwellian surveillance state

As is so often the case, Labour are simply pouring petrol onto a fire that was started by the Tories

www.telegraph.co.uk

 

[Rita]

You can’t read the context unless you pay for a four months contribution, unless of course that’s just the U.K. that has to pay and the rest of you get to read it for free x

 

[Scott Downey]

You can’t read the context unless you pay for a four months contribution, unless of course that’s just the U.K. that has to pay and the rest of you get to read it for free x

Shoot you are correct, I did not notice that. When I first read the article it did not do it but when I reloaded the link after 3 seconds it pops a message!

 

[Scott Downey]

I managed to caqpture some screen shots

You can read most of it.
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[Rita]

Thanks, I couldn’t read any of it - so well done you for outwitting the telegraph x
Stammer is awful, and I voted for labour - thought they couldn’t do any worse !! lol

 

[Rita]

I doubt there is a government that would do any different, the only other party that is gaining ground is Nigel Farage - and I can’t stand the guy, he constantly says what he think people want to hear.
I am not a massive fan of apple - but good on them for standing their ground

 

[IndianaRob]

Sounds like the same thing Trump is doing in America.

 

[Rita]

Sounds like the same thing Trump is doing in America.

Not totally Sure about that, but the U.K. usually follows the US in very subtle ways, many things have crept in over the years.

 

[Muna]

Why would anyone want people photo albums and private conversations with their moms and dads and friends on these texts? Why is this so interesting to these people? Or what is in your files, why are those sorts of things being sniffed out by them?

Just dont text or upload your family photos online and keep any files free of personal information.

 

[Wick Stick]

The only verdict is vengeance; a vendetta, held as a votive, not in vain, for the value and veracity of such shall one day vindicate the vigilant and the virtuous.

 

[Scott Downey]

Another article on this story

MSN

And

BOOM! J.D. VANCE CRUSHES UK'S GLOBAL BLACKMAIL SCHEME: $10M/Day Ultimatum COLLAPSES | Britain Forced to Retreat After Trying to Break Apple Encryption | VANCE DEFENDS 1.5 BILLION USERS’ PRIVACY - amg-news.com - American Media Group

The UK demanded a backdoor into Apple’s encrypted systems — not just for British users, but for 1.5 billion people worldwide. Fines. Prison threats. Total coercion. JD Vance took charge, stared them down, and forced Britain to back off. This is the digital victory of the decade.

amg-news.com

 

[IndianaRob]

Why would anyone want people photo albums and private conversations with their moms and dads and friends on these texts? Why is this so interesting to these people? Or what is in your files, why are those sorts of things being sniffed out by them?

Just dont text or upload your family photos online and keep any files free of personal information.

They want our information for blackmail, to control us, to make us do exactly what they want us to do. They’re creating Epstein files on all of us.

Our devices are constantly listening 24-7 to our private conversations. They’re recording everything we say online, over the phone, in our text messages even private conversations between you and your wife while your in your car.

If you have your phone or a smart tv in your bedroom, the devices are recording everything you say. Most smart tvs have cameras so they’re recording audio and video of intimate moments in the bedroom.

Each of us have a digital twin on the cloud. Below is what the digital twin is and the “cover story” for why it exists.

The real purpose of the digital twin is much more nepahrious and ultimately involves taking our consciousness from our body’s and uploading our consciousness to the digital twin.

A digital twin is basically a virtual copy of a physical object, system, or process that updates in real-time using data from sensors, devices, or other sources.

• Imagine you have a wind turbine out in a field. Sensors on it send data (temperature, vibration, rotation speed, etc.). That data is fed into a computer model that perfectly mirrors the real turbine. Now engineers can monitor, test, and predict how the turbine will behave—without touching the real one.
• It’s used in healthcare too: doctors can build a digital twin of a patient’s heart using imaging and sensor data. Then they can test treatments on the digital twin before doing it on the real patient.
• In short: a digital twin = a real-time, living, digital replica of something physical, used to study, monitor, or improve it.

 

[IndianaRob]

This what Trump, “the man God sent to save America” recently did in America. Below is an AI summary of what he did.

Why Are Big Tech Executives Being Given Military Positions? Surveillance Is the Key.

Lately, we’ve seen something strange: executives from Palantir, Google, Microsoft, and Meta being brought into the U.S. military with actual officer ranks. On the surface, the Pentagon says it’s about “modernization” and “data advantage.” But if you look closely, the common thread is surveillance.

• Palantir: masters of massive data fusion and predictive analytics. Their software already runs inside military and intelligence agencies to track people and spot patterns across huge data sets.
• Google / DeepMind: cutting-edge in AI, computer vision, and large-scale data processing — the kind of tools you’d need to scan surveillance feeds and automate intel.
• Meta: experts in social graph mapping, identity tracking, and immersive AR/VR. Useful for creating “digital twins” of soldiers, environments, and even adversary systems.
• Microsoft: dominant in secure cloud (Azure Government Cloud), identity management, and battlefield mixed reality (like the HoloLens IVAS project the Army has been testing).

Put it together, and you see the real reason they’re being tapped: to hardwire surveillance and data integration directly into military command structures. This isn’t about managing supply lines — it’s about creating systems that can:

• Fuse satellite, drone, and ground feeds in real-time
• Monitor digital activity of populations (friendly or hostile)
• Build predictive “digital twins” of cities, soldiers, or infrastructure to model outcomes before they happen

And here’s the kicker: they aren’t just consultants. By commissioning them as officers, the military gives these corporate people direct clearance, authority, and integration inside the chain of command. No middleman. No red tape.

Bottom line: These companies aren’t in uniform for logistics or tradition. They’re there to weaponize their surveillance tech and plug it straight into military operations. That means battlefield monitoring abroad — and potentially large-scale civilian data surveillance at home.

 

[Muna]

They want our information for blackmail, to control us, to make us do exactly what they want us to do. They’re creating Epstein files on all of us.

Don't do Epstein things and they cannot collect Epstein things on you

Our devices are constantly listening 24-7 to our private conversations. They’re recording everything we say online, over the phone, in our text messages even private conversations between you and your wife while your in your car.

If you have your phone or a smart tv in your bedroom, the devices are recording everything you say. Most smart tvs have cameras so they’re recording audio and video of intimate moments in the bedroom.

I don't have a smart phone, and neither do I keep the phone I have (which is a flip phone) in the bedroom, and I dont have a smart TV in my bedroom let alone a TV at all in my bedroom. I don't watch TV myself.

People would be better off without them

Each of us have a digital twin on the cloud. Below is what the digital twin is and the “cover story” for why it exists.

The real purpose of the digital twin is much more nepahrious and ultimately involves taking our consciousness from our body’s and uploading our consciousness to the digital twin.

A digital twin is basically a virtual copy of a physical object, system, or process that updates in real-time using data from sensors, devices, or other sources.

• Imagine you have a wind turbine out in a field. Sensors on it send data (temperature, vibration, rotation speed, etc.). That data is fed into a computer model that perfectly mirrors the real turbine. Now engineers can monitor, test, and predict how the turbine will behave—without touching the real one.
• It’s used in healthcare too: doctors can build a digital twin of a patient’s heart using imaging and sensor data. Then they can test treatments on the digital twin before doing it on the real patient.
• In short: a digital twin = a real-time, living, digital replica of something physical, used to study, monitor, or improve it.

I would love to see what they have on My digital twin, which is probably just a file of copy pasted scriptures, and they probably have more on God on my digital twin than they have on me

But if you don't take pictures on these devices, or text on them, or do online banking (none of which I do) let alone much of anything else, it matters very little to me. They are (at least at this time) not that problematic.

I do use mine to study, and post on this one forum now, and I did create my own search engine on 3 flash drives and 3 cards, and I so love that I did that! Because I know I would miss using one of those when I decide to remain offline.

Personally, I don't like the idea of the end of updates for Windows 10 this coming October, though I had thought it was last October and prepared to go offline back then and came back on after it was known they were not doing that just yet. I refuse to have a Microsift account, so I decided to buy a bunch of the same used laptops on ebay and have each one set up as the other, with favorite songs, and studies so I can use all the same offline. Because I heard (not sure how true it is) that the newer compters cannot even be used offline until you somehow sign in or connect online (or something like that).

 

[IndianaRob]

So if you carry a cell phone with you or wear a fit bit or any other device that has cellular or WiFi capabilities, real time information like location, heart rate oxygen levels etc (anything your fit bit or phone can measure) is being sent real time to your digital twin on the cloud.

AI or even people can watch everything you say and do on the digital twin just like they were in the park or on the lake or on the mountains with you.

The digital twin is constantly updating everything about you in real time.

Palintir’s AI is assessing everything you do and is assigning threat level, compliance level and social credit scores to your dossier.

Digital Dossiers: The New Face of Surveillance

Most people still think “dossiers” are just old-school intelligence files — a folder with a few papers, photos, and notes. That’s outdated. Today, with Palantir, Google, Microsoft, and other big tech firms working hand-in-hand with government and military agencies, dossiers have gone fully digital.

We’re not talking about static files anymore. We’re talking about dynamic, constantly updating digital profiles that track almost everything about a person in real time.

Here’s what goes in:

• Biometrics: facial recognition, gait, fingerprints, voice, even medical signals.
• Communications: call records, emails, texts, social media activity.
• Behavior: where you travel, what you buy, what sites you browse.
• Networks: friends, coworkers, associates, and even “influence maps.”
• Predictive analytics: models of what you’re likely to do, where you’re likely to go, and who you’ll meet.

Palantir’s whole purpose is to pull in dozens of separate databases and fuse them into one clear “profile card” on a person. Google and Microsoft provide the infrastructure, cloud, and AI that keep it live and constantly updating.

So yes — dossiers are being created. Only now they’re smarter, deeper, and harder to escape than ever. They’re not just records of who you are; they’re digital shadows that follow you everywhere.

 

[Muna]

Personally, I dont use Google but Brave, and I dont have any social media (just here) or even click to befriend people, or click to follow people. I dont use any fingerprint sign on's or face reccognition sign on ( taped over the built in camera, which I think is wise) I dont text (never have, I don't even know how). I do not download apps, and we don't have these newer vehicles that track you. We have 2 vehicles that are over 25 years old. We are actually on our 3rd engine on our truck. Much cheaper to insure also.

 

[Muna]

It's probably worse in the city, and much harder to avoid, because in the rural areas some people still have landlines, like one of my friends, she still has a landline.

 

[IndianaRob]

It's probably worse in the city, and much harder to avoid, because in the rural areas some people still have landlines, like one of my friends, she still has a landline.

Mesh networks and star link pretty much has the planet blanketed with WiFi.

 

[Muna]

Louis Rossman on Youtube (who I sometimes watch to avoid buying things that have this tech or terms of services that change on you, or catches in purchase) just put out a videos the other day on the AI cameras being taxpayer funded where he lives (in New York)

And another video just today going down to protest them

 

[Muna]

Mesh networks and star link pretty much has the planet blanketed with WiFi.

You cannot fully escape those sorts of things though, you can minimize it, but I wouldn't stress over it.