Understanding Fascism

[Gandalf-]

I have never read so much stupid satanic antichrist nonsense in my entire life, on a site like this, other than the crap you write. If you want to talk satanic, if you want to talk antichrist, then look no farther than the nonsense you post. And I am accusing you to your face, of being no Christian at all, with all of the truly evil nonsense you write. I can't believe the sheer stupidity of what you seem to believe, and at the very least, of what you post.

And you need not reply, because I will not engage in the purely satanic nonsense you post. But if you do reply, I will not talk to you, but will merely talk at you instead, and point out no one pays attention to the purely satanic antichrist nonsense you post. Who do you think you are impressing with your nonsense? Because I can surely tell you that you are impressing no one here. And some of what you write isn't actually properly formatted nor properly constructed sentences, and therefore have no actual meaning, or as a result, can be taken to mean more than one possible result. And even with your butchered sentences at times, we can still see your apparently intended meanings, are still the same demonic antichrist content, rather than the truth.

 

[Patrick1966]

And I am accusing you to your face, of being no Christian at all

Are you referring to me or another? How about providing facts to support your position?

 

[Patrick1966]

And you need not reply, because I will not engage in the purely satanic nonsense you post.

The number one tenet of fascism is the rejection of a free-market economy. Do you agree or disagree?

 

[Gandalf-]

Are you referring to me or another?

I was replying to Reggie. I don't know how it makes it look like I was responding to you, other than maybe you received an email alert to this thread that you were watching? I was referring to Reggie's nonsense.

And I wasn't referencing anything you wrote, which he may have quoted, or responded to. And In so far as he would quote, or respond to you, I had no problem with your posts. I read through them quickly, and don't remember everything you posted, because my focus was not on you. I was simply pissed about what Reggie posts, as his own beliefs, and posts.

 

[Gandalf-]

The number one tenet of fascism is the rejection of a free-market economy. Do you agree or disagree?

Yes that is 100% accurate. Fascism is about 100% total and complete state run society and their exclusive control of the same. As was said there were no books on fascism at the time, and the theory and practice was basically invented by Mussolini and followed by Hitler and the Nazi's

Critical thinking was a term coined within philosophy, and in modern times was used to discus God. Karl Marx was a virulent Satanist, who wrote extensive poetry, prose, plays, etc.., and within his extensive writings were much on his devotion to and following of Satan, and how the prince of darkness sold him his sword and his throne ( his pen, and communism ) for the sake of destroying the world.

And the Satanic communists and socialists to follow after Marx, took the concept of critical thinking, and coined new versions of the term, such as critical theory, etc.., And Marx himself was credited with coining the term Conflict Theory. And Hitler and Mussolini in turn took the term conflict theory, to coin their own theories of creating conflict by creating on purpose and championing on purpose of using lies to create states based on conflict, that they alone would control, and created Fascism as well, so as to control their states based on centralized conflict and lies, to justify their total and complete control.

And it was Benito Mussolini himself who was credited with coining the term fascism in 1919, to establish his powerful fascist state, which he adapted from his take on an ancient term from ancient Rome. mussolini and Hitler both felt it was key, and central to create their self defined lies to create such a great conflict, as per conflict theory, so as to use to completely define and control a state. Hitler felt if one tells a big lie, and tells it often, that it would be believed more readily than small lie. And his propaganda minister joseph Goebbels believed in that as well.

But as you basically said, since Mussolini coined the term Fascist himself, and Hitler and Mussolini both embraced this newly coined fascism, with their own subtle nuisances, and there were no books before them, defining the very term Mussolini himself coined, it was coined by him, to be used within his own version of a Revived Roman Empire, of his own definition, likewise based on his take of conflict theory, to create his own state built upon his own self sustained lies, and Hitler followed suit, Fascism was based solely on hate, lies, and brutal central control, to hate all that opposed that very same states centralized control, and thus was opposed to free market economies .......It was based on economies controlled by, and solely answering to the state, and rewarding solely those who served and were chosen to be rewarded by the state itself.

And in all of these ways, the Modern US Democratic Party, in every way is a Fascist State. The Modern Democratic Party only works thru subterfuge and veiled insurrection, solely to gain more power and control for the Democratic Party Deep State, and the Democratic Party Deep State alone.

 

[Patrick1966]

No one wrote a book ......

They wrote manifestos.

More importantly, fascism is exhibited by what they actually do. As I said, the #1 tenet of fascism is the rejection of a free-market economy.

 

[Patrick1966]

As was said there were no books on fascism at the time...

Actually, Mussolini and Hitler both published manifestos.

https://sjsu.edu/faculty/wooda/2B-HUM/Readings/The-Doctrine-of-Fascism.pdf

https://www.historyplace.com/worldwar2/riseofhitler/25points.htm

 

[Patrick1966]

And in all of these ways, the Modern US Democratic Party, in every way is a Fascist State. The Modern Democratic Party only works thru subterfuge and veiled insurrection, solely to gain more power and control for the Democratic Party Deep State, and the Democratic Party Deep State alone.

True.

The fact is that American leftists love fascism, as long as it's not called fascism.

 

[Gandalf-]

Actually, Mussolini and Hitler both published manifestos.

https://sjsu.edu/faculty/wooda/2B-HUM/Readings/The-Doctrine-of-Fascism.pdf

https://www.historyplace.com/worldwar2/riseofhitler/25points.htm

100% true. But I had read above that there were no books specifically defining fascism, and I was responding to that. there in fact were no books with even a brief study which defined fascism, although you could find some of their own fascist beliefs within their manifestos, which would help define their differences in their two belief systems as to what fascism meant to them both.

But the underlying truth is that Mussolini himself coined the term fascism in 1919 to define fascism as his vision for his reconstituted roman empire, so reconstituted by his own vision of such alone, all by himself.

So more correctly, to agree with what I red above, I should have written saying "correct, there were no academic books defining fascism, as it was the sole creation of Mussolini, who coined the term to solely refer to his vision for his sought after reconstituted roman empire, under his vision and rule."

Mussolini was involved in following the discovery of an ancient roman emperor's private barge, and allegedly found the copy of the alleged lost manuscript of Nostradamus in a public library, both of which again allegedly also helped in his vision in his mind for his revived and reconstituted roman empire.

So the main point I made on that was that there were no academic works defining fascism, as it was the sole creation of Mussolini, who even coined the term by himself, to so define and represent his idea for a revived roman empire, and Hitler likewise defined his own vision of fascism himself as well, with both versions heavily indebted to Karl Marx's conflict theory, and so constructed upon their own self created lies to fuel and create their own visions thru said lies of their intended propaganda as well.

 

[Gandalf-]

Actually, Mussolini and Hitler both published manifestos.

https://sjsu.edu/faculty/wooda/2B-HUM/Readings/The-Doctrine-of-Fascism.pdf

https://www.historyplace.com/worldwar2/riseofhitler/25points.htm

True, but I was agreeing with a post above, that basically implied that there were no independent academic works defining fascism.

Mussolini's manifesto on fascism, again which he created, and coined the term fascism itself, is a bunch of nonsensical double speak, meant to sound lofty and academic, but fails to do so on both accounts. It's pure torture to read the nonsense Mussolini wrote, in which he tried to hard, and clearly failed at, trying again to sound lofty and academic.

Mussolini just writes nonsense in circles, which could have just as easily been written by H.P. Blavatsky, and the nonsense she spewed in her works.

So other than the Mussolini nonsensical ramblings, there was no real academic work at the time more properly defining what Mussolini himself had created.

 

[Gandalf-]

They wrote manifestos.

More importantly, fascism is exhibited by what they actually do. As I said, the #1 tenet of fascism is the rejection of a free-market economy.

Yes fascism was manifested more by what they did, rather than what they wrote, because both of them wrote nothing but nonsense, ramblings, diatribes, nonsensical definitions and theories, etc.., with the exception that they at times did specify plans for conquest and expansions, etc.., But Hitler didn't even write Mein Kamp, but rather instead, rambled and dictated it, and it was actually written for him, based upon his dictations.

Because, I again agree with what I agreed with reading, which implied there were no independent academic works defining fascism, etc.., and were only discussed in the nonsensical ramblings of both men. Mussolini's manifesto on fascism, was nonsense, which spent more time trying to sound lofty and academic, than on actually making sense. I found it to be torture to try and read it, looking for either truth, or sense or logic. Mussolini was a clown, who should have given his work to some one to edit, and clean up. He needed a copy editor, etc.., something fierce

 

[Reggie Belafonte]

I have never read so much stupid satanic antichrist nonsense in my entire life, on a site like this, other than the crap you write. If you want to talk satanic, if you want to talk antichrist, then look no farther than the nonsense you post. And I am accusing you to your face, of being no Christian at all, with all of the truly evil nonsense you write. I can't believe the sheer stupidity of what you seem to believe, and at the very least, of what you post.

And you need not reply, because I will not engage in the purely satanic nonsense you post. But if you do reply, I will not talk to you, but will merely talk at you instead, and point out no one pays attention to the purely satanic antichrist nonsense you post. Who do you think you are impressing with your nonsense? Because I can surely tell you that you are impressing no one here. And some of what you write isn't actually properly formatted nor properly constructed sentences, and therefore have no actual meaning, or as a result, can be taken to mean more than one possible result. And even with your butchered sentences at times, we can still see your apparently intended meanings, are still the same demonic antichrist content, rather than the truth.

Try to point out what the issue you have about a point that I have made and we can go from their and not just make broad silly sweeping remarks that go no where bro.
I have found that people who only will talk at you are in fact not worthy of Christ at all, for they do not have the Grace to be able to hold a conversation, without having a hissy fit. For such as they have a demon within them I have found.

I don't like people having a go at me for being a Jew, thinking I am some degenerate Jew that works to undermine the Goyim, I point out that I am a Christian in fact and not a backsliding cunning Jew pretending to be one of Gods people !
For I know the difference between carnal religious garbage that un Saved Christians dribble on about, just as do all Jews and all of Islam do, it's all Carnal religious dribble in fact and their is a great divide between Christ Jesus and them in fact, because they are not on board, for they are of this world in fact ! and I am of the Kingdom of God in fact !
So I can see straight through the likes of this worlds cunning devious nonsense.

To gutless to take me on ! bring on any issue if you can and debate it with me, I get sick of brain dead dingbats who idolise Jews ? because they don't have a handle on jack regarding the Jews in fact, I have grown up so many Jewish relations and friends all around me and worked with many types of Jews.
Pity that the majority of people in Australia all think that all Jews are the same ? how pathetic !
I have such claim to be Christian people will only talk over me and claim as tho that I do not exist ! and then at they will call me a Jew and then twist and turn and claim anything and everything because, I do not follow their line of though that they want me to suck up to !
But I know much better than they do, as I know where they are at ! for they are not Saved in fact but religious dolts who have no Grace ! so they are not Gods people at all but of this world.
As I can see that in people who lack Grace.

Looking back I never came across one person who looked up to the Jews in any Church or anywhere I went, until the 1990's that that rot started. They would always say were does your history come from, because of my Sir name, is Jewish ! I would say now listen my dad his dad and his dad and his dad and his dad were all Christians in fact ! and they would be like no ! how could that be ? you are a Jew ! as if Jews can not be Christians ! How stupid ! The first Christians were Jews in fact buster !

Every Church nowadays is a backsliding animal that has no true regard for Christ Jesus in fact and are idolising all that is wrong with this world ! They have turned their backs on Christ Jesus in fact for the workings of Satan. I have seen the huge change of such in the churches from the 60's to now, it's a abomination ! sucking up to the governments like a mutt !

 

[Gandalf-]

Wow, your nonsense is almost so boundless, that it would take many replies, and a very long discussion, if you were willing for all of that. And perhaps you are willing to learn after all, which would be a shock. Most people show up to these Christian forum sites, I see, to spout a lot of Cult Nonsense, such as Preterist nonsense, etc..,

And one should have books in front of them, such as the kingdom of the cults, or the new kingdom of the cults, to see what kind of denominational and or doctrinal nonsense, from so much of that cult thinking that will inevitably show up. But here goes if you are willing - And I may have to do a lot of background info first, to establish lines of communications, before I can even quote your terrible information back to you, again if you are willing to go on a lo g journey, and see if you are willing to learn or not.

I am willing to learn if I am wrong as well, because there is much that is hidden within scripture, that has to be searched out. As to me,it appears that God requires us to wrestle with God spiritually, so to speak, set after the example of Jacob, so we can prove our strength and weakness both, in proving not only if we have accepted God, but likewise were we able to quelsh and defeat our old pride nature, or not, and thus prove a mixed bag of fruit, showing our strengths and weaknesses as such.

1 Corinthians 11:18-19 says "18 For, in the first place, when you come together as a church, I hear that divisions exist amongst you; and in part I believe it. 19 For there must also be factions among you, in order that those who are approved may have become evident among you." NASB 1987.

This admonition and truth, was given in the context of troubles within the church, with the local context being given of examples of wrong and bad behavior during the feast of the Lord's supper, within the church, showing such division existed within the churches, of the apostles day. And many other of the epistles show such divisions, and such warnings, including how in time, things will grow from bad to worse, and even the love of many will grow cold, etc..,

We are given signs and warnings of how the times will grow worse, and eventually the great apostacy, or great falling away, will arise, and mockers and mockery will increase, etc.., And Jesus even said in the gospels be of the day, and not of the night, because night is coming when no man can work. John 9:4

God eventually, after 1,200 AD, and again later, gave rise, in stages, of chapter, and verse divisions in the bible, and in 1899 a Christian publisher came up with the idea of the red letter new testament, and in 1901 began publishing entire bibles with their red letter words of Jesus new testament. God has allowed the aids within his word to evolve, to help the faithful, as the so called secular humanist world goes from bad to worse.

And this likewise aided in being able to make more bible verses both within, and outside of their mere local context, when such applies. It requires the person to be sound, to determine when and how. the biblical concept of Midrash is as old as the old testament itself, where as time progressed, some context was updated, and thus setting a very long president where the scrolls of the various books we know as the Septuagint, updated, and demonstrated more spiritual insights for OT scriptures, which likewise had such updates as well, before the Septuagint even came a long. And even the NT updated scriptural meaning and contextual updates of some OT passages s well.

But not everything was updated, as it's original context remained, but could have a split or dual meaning, or fulfillment, such as splits in prophecy of 1st Advent and return or 2nd Advent of Christ.

****And I would like our first discussion to be about Hitler and the Nazi's who fullfilled scripture as Hitler as an Arch-Type of the Antichrist - which is so important and foundational to the actual historical context of Hitler as such an Arch-Type for the Antichrist, rather than you treating him so wrong, and out of context, and so flippantly as some mere pawn of a Jewish, Protocols of Zion, type of worldwide Jewish conspiracy, of Hitler and is whore Talmud, etc..,

You seem to display no understanding of Hitler, nor the Nazi Occult Regime whatsoever, and I would like to begin there. Even Pastor John MacArthur, and many others, understood and understand Hitler as an example of an Arch-Type of the Antichrist, and he was so demonic, demon possessed, and horrific, as not be treated so dismissively and flippantly by you.

And about eleven and a half minutes in this video, Pastor MacArthur discusses Hitler, and the book the morning of the magicians, on Hitler, to be confirmed in Christian books on the same to come afterwards, as well as all of the Science, Discovery Times, and National Geographic channels specials, on the Occult roots and manifestations within the Nazi empire, and MacArthur continues on the hollow earth, etc.., Occult beliefs and practices of the Nazi's as well as their Wolf Youth children, etc.., .....Hitler and his powerfully demonic Nazi State is not to be so flippantly dismissed by you.

 

[Reggie Belafonte]

Wow, your nonsense is almost so boundless, that it would take many replies, and a very long discussion, if you were willing for all of that. And perhaps you are willing to learn after all, which would be a shock. Most people show up to these Christian forum sites, I see, to spout a lot of Cult Nonsense, such as Preterist nonsense, etc..,

And one should have books in front of them, such as the kingdom of the cults, or the new kingdom of the cults, to see what kind of denominational and or doctrinal nonsense, from so much of that cult thinking that will inevitably show up. But here goes if you are willing - And I may have to do a lot of background info first, to establish lines of communications, before I can even quote your terrible information back to you, again if you are willing to go on a lo g journey, and see if you are willing to learn or not.

I am willing to learn if I am wrong as well, because there is much that is hidden within scripture, that has to be searched out. As to me,it appears that God requires us to wrestle with God spiritually, so to speak, set after the example of Jacob, so we can prove our strength and weakness both, in proving not only if we have accepted God, but likewise were we able to quelsh and defeat our old pride nature, or not, and thus prove a mixed bag of fruit, showing our strengths and weaknesses as such.

1 Corinthians 11:18-19 says "18 For, in the first place, when you come together as a church, I hear that divisions exist amongst you; and in part I believe it. 19 For there must also be factions among you, in order that those who are approved may have become evident among you." NASB 1987.

This admonition and truth, was given in the context of troubles within the church, with the local context being given of examples of wrong and bad behavior during the feast of the Lord's supper, within the church, showing such division existed within the churches, of the apostles day. And many other of the epistles show such divisions, and such warnings, including how in time, things will grow from bad to worse, and even the love of many will grow cold, etc..,

We are given signs and warnings of how the times will grow worse, and eventually the great apostacy, or great falling away, will arise, and mockers and mockery will increase, etc.., And Jesus even said in the gospels be of the day, and not of the night, because night is coming when no man can work. John 9:4

God eventually, after 1,200 AD, and again later, gave rise, in stages, of chapter, and verse divisions in the bible, and in 1899 a Christian publisher came up with the idea of the red letter new testament, and in 1901 began publishing entire bibles with their red letter words of Jesus new testament. God has allowed the aids within his word to evolve, to help the faithful, as the so called secular humanist world goes from bad to worse.

And this likewise aided in being able to make more bible verses both within, and outside of their mere local context, when such applies. It requires the person to be sound, to determine when and how. the biblical concept of Midrash is as old as the old testament itself, where as time progressed, some context was updated, and thus setting a very long president where the scrolls of the various books we know as the Septuagint, updated, and demonstrated more spiritual insights for OT scriptures, which likewise had such updates as well, before the Septuagint even came a long. And even the NT updated scriptural meaning and contextual updates of some OT passages s well.

But not everything was updated, as it's original context remained, but could have a split or dual meaning, or fulfillment, such as splits in prophecy of 1st Advent and return or 2nd Advent of Christ.

****And I would like our first discussion to be about Hitler and the Nazi's who fullfilled scripture as Hitler as an Arch-Type of the Antichrist - which is so important and foundational to the actual historical context of Hitler as such an Arch-Type for the Antichrist, rather than you treating him so wrong, and out of context, and so flippantly as some mere pawn of a Jewish, Protocols of Zion, type of worldwide Jewish conspiracy, of Hitler and is whore Talmud, etc..,

You seem to display no understanding of Hitler, nor the Nazi Occult Regime whatsoever, and I would like to begin there. Even Pastor John MacArthur, and many others, understood and understand Hitler as an example of an Arch-Type of the Antichrist, and he was so demonic, demon possessed, and horrific, as not be treated so dismissively and flippantly by you.

And about eleven and a half minutes in this video, Pastor MacArthur discusses Hitler, and the book the morning of the magicians, on Hitler, to be confirmed in Christian books on the same to come afterwards, as well as all of the Science, Discovery Times, and National Geographic channels specials, on the Occult roots and manifestations within the Nazi empire, and MacArthur continues on the hollow earth, etc.., Occult beliefs and practices of the Nazi's as well as their Wolf Youth children, etc.., .....Hitler and his powerfully demonic Nazi State is not to be so flippantly dismissed by you.

Oh high I am glad to understand.

OK ! set the Hitler thing to go ahead then.

I will start then maybe, Hitler's Sister said that Hitler went to the UK and came back a different man.
So the powers that be say no to this and it's a lie and Hitler had never travelled out past Austria or Germany.
So the story line we are lead to have to believe ?
Now Hitler went to see his relation Lord Rothschild when he went to the UK supposedly ? some say.
Hitler is a Jew on some blood lines as well.
Hitler is Hella the headlights related it is said ? just spelt differently due to some reason ?
Hitler went to much lengths to hide his Jewish blood line and destroyed his Austrian home town grave site totally.
But Hitler is safe because he is 3 generations removed from the regards to the socialist Laws, as if you are only 2ed removed then you come under the Law as to this regard.

Now Hitler was a good bloke ? Hitler's Government was so advanced that most of our Laws for so many thing was what we have nowadays due to Hitler leading the way in fact regarding environmental Laws, Animal protection Laws, Gun Laws !
Not to mention that Hitler was loved, the most Loved political person in the world by far, pre War.
Hitler was Man of the Year ?

Hitler turned Germany around from a inflation rate of 200% and this threat that the Satanist pushed the German people into such hell ?

This Game could happen to the USA down the track ? and such would get the wrong end of the stick to deal with ? I know people who have no regard for Germanys experience that ? now I have said but what if it happened to you ? Then again I said you best know History well fool, or you may get the same treatment to deal with, because one does not understand the issue at hand ?

So what I am on about is don't be a ignorant fool and just dismiss anything just because they are another race etc.
The Devil in the detail can come for you, be it even 70 years later ? so best be prepared for such games.
So if you understand the game being played on you or your Nation, so as you can shout out the warnings of such tactics ? and not just be a total fool, That is the Christian way, we look out for one another ?

Now I remember a teacher saying about Hitler, was a Bad man !
Now I sat back and thought, is that an education or a indoctrination ? would such be worthy, saying such total pathetic garbage as X was a bad man ? How would one understand ?
I may as well walk out of the class room, because such garbage is not worthy of an education at all in fact.

One had to get a true handle on the subject matter, so as to truly get a handle on the reality of the subject !

So now in 2023 we have most of the West that are being played for being a totally pathetic fool, for they do not truly know or understand nothing truly about the Nazis. Not to mention that their Soul is dominated by the very essence of what Nazi foundations were built on ! but they can not recognise the subject at all, for it's all around them but hidden from view, they can not register the elephant in the room ?

Now I worked in business and I became a master in understanding people working for such a week or 2 in their home and you know what the people who display being so nice are the ones you have to look out for ! because they are false people at heart, for they put on a false face. Why ? because they are not worthy of being genuine human.
So who are they ? Lost !
So here is the problem they are not Saved !
So they have no real solid value system in their life !
So how could they see past their own nose ?
Dupes ! A Nation of Dupes ? Now what does Jesus say about such ? He points to that this world is full of delusions and deceptions ! That is a fact that I came to understand is the Key problem.
Now Jesus talks about the parable of the weeds ? Are we to have the weeds grow and strangle us in Christ.
The Kingdom of God does not have dupes in it and their is a list in the Bible that shows who can not enter, why because they are not worthy in fact their of.

 

[Gandalf-]

I have lived in the USA all of my life. And in 1985 when I became a Christian, I began to read and study very heavily about Christianity, and everything in the world, so related to further my knowledge on Christianity, etc.., Within 6 months I purchased a famous Hebrew Greek English Interlinear Bible, and began to study the Bible in Hebrew and Greek, etc.., I of course had to buy all the biblical languages study tools, etc.., to teach myself, and continue my research. I was not fond of the KJV version of the bible, preferring the NASB myself, as the most literal major translation at the time. It does a very good job at treating old testament Idioms translated as literally as possible.

I told you before, that Christianity requires a great deal of speculative research, in which one has to study to show one's self approved, based on how much one wants to commit oneself to God, or not. It is a matter of fighting your old prideful nature, or not, and how hard one is willing to wrestle with God, or not, with Jacob as the symbolic struggle, to prove how much one wants to draw near God, or not.

God primarily makes us wrestle with God ourselves, to see and show if we are willing to love, and strive for God, or not, and to what degree. And if we are unwilling to struggle with, and suppress our old prideful inner or lost natures, then our old lost natures will rule us in error ourselves.

I could not figure out why you Bash Jews so badly. You seem to hold to a lot of the Protocols Of Zion type of conspiracy theories against the Jews. And then I read where you wrote you were a Christian in a long line of Christians of Jewish descent yourself, and that you are tired of people bashing you for being of Jewish descent yourself, saying you can't be a Christian and a Jew.

And they are 100% puzzle factory nuts. You are correct that you can be of Jewish descent, and a Christian. And you were likewise 100% correct, with very few exceptions, that Christ Jesus, the disciples, and first followers were mainly all Jews themselves, with Gentile followers, to follow, who joined in afterwards.

And not only can Jews be Christians, but there are many Messianic Jews around as well. A Messianic Jew, are Christians themselves as well. They identify themselves as Messianic Jews, or Jews for Christ Jesus, to purposefully identify themselves as Jewish, to witness Christianity to their fellow Jews. They identify with, and follow the Jewish holidays and feasts of the bible, to show how they all foreshadow and witness to the coming of Christ in Jesus.

They simply add the extra studies, such as the OT feast days, etc.., .......... as showing how they all foreshadowed the coming of Christ, as a witness to their fellow Jews, that Jesus was indeed, and is the only Messiah and the only means of salvation.

And while the Hebrew Roots Movement is very false and evil, that is not what true Messianic Jews are all about. So back in 1985, 1986, etc.., I had a Christian friend who was curious about these Messianic Jews, so together we visited a few of their congregations, and services, and were very impressed with how they were all about Jesus and Christianity, but also within their Jewish Witness Mission to witness Jesus are foreshadowed, foretold, and contained throughout the entire OT.

So Jews can be Christians, and even the variety known as Messianic Jews, or Jews who witness Christ and Christianity to their fellow Jews.

And yes there are many bad Jews, as there are many bad Gentiles in the world today, as well as many bad alleged Christians in the world today as well.

So I understand you a little better now, however I find your Protocols Of Zion types of conspiracies and accusations a bit over the top. Yes there is a great deal of evil in this world today, and a lot of it can be found in this woke and progressive left of today, and thus within most of the western world of today, as well as within the rest of the world too.

Did you even watch the MacArthur video from about eleven minutes in, or not? I can show you fom my studies that Hitler and the Nazi's in Biblical Prophecy.

But that will be a long thread, and so I will get back to you, and post on Hitler in Biblical Prophecy in new post, when I get back to you again.

 

[Reggie Belafonte]

I have lived in the USA all of my life. And in 1985 when I became a Christian, I began to read and study very heavily about Christianity, and everything in the world, so related to further my knowledge on Christianity, etc.., Within 6 months I purchased a famous Hebrew Greek English Interlinear Bible, and began to study the Bible in Hebrew and Greek, etc.., I of course had to buy all the biblical languages study tools, etc.., to teach myself, and continue my research. I was not fond of the KJV version of the bible, preferring the NASB myself, as the most literal major translation at the time. It does a very good job at treating old testament Idioms translated as literally as possible.

I told you before, that Christianity requires a great deal of speculative research, in which one has to study to show one's self approved, based on how much one wants to commit oneself to God, or not. It is a matter of fighting your old prideful nature, or not, and how hard one is willing to wrestle with God, or not, with Jacob as the symbolic struggle, to prove how much one wants to draw near God, or not.

God primarily makes us wrestle with God ourselves, to see and show if we are willing to love, and strive for God, or not, and to what degree. And if we are unwilling to struggle with, and suppress our old prideful inner or lost natures, then our old lost natures will rule us in error ourselves.

I could not figure out why you Bash Jews so badly. You seem to hold to a lot of the Protocols Of Zion type of conspiracy theories against the Jews. And then I read where you wrote you were a Christian in a long line of Christians of Jewish descent yourself, and that you are tired of people bashing you for being of Jewish descent yourself, saying you can't be a Christian and a Jew.

And they are 100% puzzle factory nuts. You are correct that you can be of Jewish descent, and a Christian. And you were likewise 100% correct, with very few exceptions, that Christ Jesus, the disciples, and first followers were mainly all Jews themselves, with Gentile followers, to follow, who joined in afterwards.

And not only can Jews be Christians, but there are many Messianic Jews around as well. A Messianic Jew, are Christians themselves as well. They identify themselves as Messianic Jews, or Jews for Christ Jesus, to purposefully identify themselves as Jewish, to witness Christianity to their fellow Jews. They identify with, and follow the Jewish holidays and feasts of the bible, to show how they all foreshadow and witness to the coming of Christ in Jesus.

They simply add the extra studies, such as the OT feast days, etc.., .......... as showing how they all foreshadowed the coming of Christ, as a witness to their fellow Jews, that Jesus was indeed, and is the only Messiah and the only means of salvation.

And while the Hebrew Roots Movement is very false and evil, that is not what true Messianic Jews are all about. So back in 1985, 1986, etc.., I had a Christian friend who was curious about these Messianic Jews, so together we visited a few of their congregations, and services, and were very impressed with how they were all about Jesus and Christianity, but also within their Jewish Witness Mission to witness Jesus are foreshadowed, foretold, and contained throughout the entire OT.

So Jews can be Christians, and even the variety known as Messianic Jews, or Jews who witness Christ and Christianity to their fellow Jews.

And yes there are many bad Jews, as there are many bad Gentiles in the world today, as well as many bad alleged Christians in the world today as well.

So I understand you a little better now, however I find your Protocols Of Zion types of conspiracies and accusations a bit over the top. Yes there is a great deal of evil in this world today, and a lot of it can be found in this woke and progressive left of today, and thus within most of the western world of today, as well as within the rest of the world too.

Did you even watch the MacArthur video from about eleven minutes in, or not? I can show you fom my studies that Hitler and the Nazi's in Biblical Prophecy.

But that will be a long thread, and so I will get back to you, and post on Hitler in Biblical Prophecy in new post, when I get back to you again.

Thank you !

I use a AKJV Bible myself and am a fan of that, but I first read a fantastic Bible that got me into Bible study and it is a 1953 Catholic action edition.
So coming from mainly a Lutheran bible study up bringing and my mum being a Lutheran and my Dad was a RCC but had turned on the RCC and did not speak highly of it.
My dad had great love for the Jews, but not all and pointed out the issues of outrageous greed and such disgraceful madness hatred that the Jews have for all people. So Jews would ask my dad to come join them and he refused, not to be involved with such secret organisations, my dad would not hide in the shadows.
My Dad would stick up for the Jews and admired their ability's and workmanship and greatness in Medical etc etc, but he did not idolise them. for he knew that if they come to Christ Jesus they would be fulfilled as a Human, for they lack Grace ! and that is their biggest problem and the idiot pride that brings them down. Bible says so that they are a stiff necked people ! but that need not be the case.

My mate up the road is a Jews for Jesus type, I have put up with this ranting's for years, he idols such, I had listened intently to such ranting's but all this has nothing to do with Christ Jesus at all in fact, it's something that only a religious would swallow ? one who is not truly Saved ? For they do not Know Christ Jesus at all, for if they did they would not rant and rave about the 2ed coming ? too be Saved !
I am Saved, so I do not need saving again ? I have Christ Jesus within me as I am within him, he is by my side ! I am not looking for Jesus, because I am found.
Now I went to Church and had faith in the Church and I was seeking 24/7 but one day Jesus turned up ! some what like Paul had experienced ? And bingo the lights came on, I knew Him 100% ! Now before that I had great faith and read the Bible near ever day but I did not have 100% faith in him ? Their was some issues that could be a little doubt to be sure to be sure with my self !
But it was after that encounter that no one was pulling the wool over my eyes ! I do not regard any so called Church as I having to identify with, for I have Christ Jesus to identify with.
Not to mention I despise such places that molest Children and cover up for such filth mongers. I will not associate with such as that at all.
Religion does not Save, Only Christ Jesus Saves !
I point to Jesus as the Christ, not the Church.
For the True Church is the body of Christ Jesus.

I am not into the Protocols of Zion.

Yes I watched the whole video.