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Update on World System.

Religious.


The United Nation`s global religion of `save the planet,` is echoed in most areas of Christianity. The lie is that our inheritance is on the earth and thus we need to partner with the world`s organizations to help save it.

The truth is that God will judge the world system and we, as believers our inheritance is with the Lord in the highest heaven. (Rev. 3: 21)



Economic

The main currency is the USA`s dollar. It is purposely being devalued so that America`s great debt (38 trillion) will be cheaper. This will bring about a realignment in the economic world system and inflation in everyday life. With so much extra monies printed the line between the real and inflated economy has reached breaking point.

Thus, the adjustment or bringing in of the new economic order. This involves the Central Bank`s digital currency (CBDC) and will be introduced across the world over the next few years. Eventually this will be the means of control over `buying and selling,` with the person`s personal Identity (ID). (Rev. 13: 16 & 17)

We, as believers will not be here for that.



Political

The focus is on the Middle East (oil), as God`s word said. What we are seeing in the USA and Israel against Iran, are the preparations for God to bring about the Russian war against Israel. (Joel 2 & Ez. 38)

Islam is the last Gentile world leader. For it to arise their leader must emerge. He will be from the Sunni`s of Islam. Thus, the Shia group of Islam need to be dealt with. They are only 10% of Muslims but would not accept a Sunni leader.

Thus, as Iran gets attacked by the West the elite military of Iran (Shia) will gladly join with the Russians and others to come down to attack Israel. God will bring them down and deal with them.

`I (God)will turn you (Russia) around and put hooks in your jaws and lead you out..` (Ez. 38: 3)

We, the Body of Christ will be raptured before the war as it is the beginning of God`s judgments upon the nations.
I'm sorry but I believe you have no clue of what's really going on. I can tell because you are not disclosing the obvious. Who created and runs the world bank? Who has control over our government....both sides of the isle? Who controls the media and it's narrative? Who entertains us with perverted filth? Who are these people, Marilyn, that start wars, famines and economic disaster?

They are the " world system" you speak of. Everything else is a smokescreen.
 
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I don't think we're there yet. Russia is busy with Ukraine, and even then, their progress has stalled/slowed. If they have so much difficulty defeating a non-nuclear nation, it would be foolish to attack a nuclear nation, especially one allied with the U.S. Russia attacks when Israel is at peace. The reference to unwalled villages in Ezekiel 38 suggests Israel will be defenseless. Two things would have to happen first. Israel will have to give up her nukes. I only see that happening if Hezbollah and Hamas are completely destroyed and they have a peace treaty with the Arab nations with certain "guarantees". The Abraham Accords might be a precursor to that, but again, we're not there yet. The second is the U.S. would have to abandon Israel. That is conceivable with all the anti-Israel rhetoric. It already exists on the Left, and now it has infected the Right. Whether that happens after Trump's presidency remains to be seen. The point being, some things still need to transpire first.
In the real world ( run by the tribe) they have a doctrine called " THE SAMSON OPTION".
If you know your Old Testament, they will bring the whole house down if they feel backed in a corner ( like a rat). They will not hesitate to blow the world up. They sacrificed their children to molech.
 

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If you know your Old Testament, they will bring the whole house down if they feel backed in a corner ( like a rat).

Anyone would do the same if faced with annihilation. Regardless, that doesn't appear to happen from Scripture.
 

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In the real world ( run by the tribe) they have a doctrine called " THE SAMSON OPTION".
If you know your Old Testament, they will bring the whole house down if they feel backed in a corner ( like a rat). They will not hesitate to blow the world up. They sacrificed their children to molech.

It's going to happen the way God said in His Word. And God's Word says nothing about all-out nuclear WWIII. Instead, God said Satan's host of armies will come out of the northern quarters upon God's people, and that is when Jesus will step in to stop them, catching that great army in an open field, raining hailstone and brimstone upon them weighing a talent (roughly 70 to 120 lb. hailstones). God said He will do this per Ezekiel 38 & 39, so that ALL NATIONS will know He is Who did it. That shows the final defeat of Christ's enemies of this present world will not be by us, but directly by God Himself, and our enemies are going to know it He said.

So my Christian brethren can forget... all the false hype about WWIII, nuclear annihilation, Armageddon style meteorites, etc. Those ideas are put out by sensationalists to sell books, and those don't really read their Bible, but just trade in pop doctrines of men.
 

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Anyone would do the same if faced with annihilation. Regardless, that doesn't appear to happen from Scripture.
Revelation 17:15-16 KJV
And he saith unto me, The waters which thou sawest, where the whore sitteth, are peoples, and multitudes, and nations, and tongues. [16] And the ten horns which thou sawest upon the beast, these shall hate the whore, and shall make her desolate and naked, and shall eat her flesh, and burn her with fire

I believe that in the end the gentile nations will come together to break the bondage of the jewish .world order. They will have complete control once AI is fully implemented. They are pretty much there now.
 

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It's going to happen the way God said in His Word. And God's Word says nothing about all-out nuclear WWIII. Instead, God said Satan's host of armies will come out of the northern quarters upon God's people, and that is when Jesus will step in to stop them, catching that great army in an open field, raining hailstone and brimstone upon them weighing a talent (roughly 70 to 120 lb. hailstones). God said He will do this per Ezekiel 38 & 39, so that ALL NATIONS will know He is Who did it. That shows the final defeat of Christ's enemies of this present world will not be by us, but directly by God Himself, and our enemies are going to know it He said.

So my Christian brethren can forget... all the false hype about WWIII, nuclear annihilation, Armageddon style meteorites, etc. Those ideas are put out by sensationalists to sell books, and those don't really read their Bible, but just trade in pop doctrines of men.
I didn't say that's how the world will end. I'm simply saying that if another nation goes to war with them that will take the world with them. But in scripture I do believe the nations will rise up and destroy Israel without that happening. Either they or the apostate Christian church is the whore of Revelation 17.
 

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I didn't say that's how the world will end. I'm simply saying that if another nation goes to war with them that will take the world with them. But in scripture I do believe the nations will rise up and destroy Israel without that happening. Either they or the apostate Christian church is the whore of Revelation 17.

You're simply going back to that old Reformer's doctrine of the 16th century.

God's Word is clear that the Christian Church is definitely NOT the Babylon harlot woman of Revelation 17. The Reformers believed the Roman Church was though, in their day, in 16th century Europe. They also wrongly believed the pope was the Antichrist. What came out of that era was the Protestant Church and a majority of Christians being able to study God's written Word for themselves. And also, the forming of great Christian nations like the United States of America, Britain, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, etc.

Only the nations on the Ezekiel 38 list allied with Ro'sh (Russia) will rise up to attack God's people at the end.
 
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You're simply going back to that old Reformer's doctrine of the 16th century.

God's Word is clear that the Christian Church is definitely NOT the Babylon harlot woman of Revelation 17. The Reformers believed the Roman Church was though, in their day, in 16th century Europe. They also wrongly believed the pope was the Antichrist. What came out of that era was the Protestant Church and a majority of Christians being able to study God's written Word for themselves. And also, the forming of great Christian nations like the United States of America, Britain, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, etc.

Only the nations on the Ezekiel 38 list allied with Ro'sh (Russia) will rise up to attack God's people at the end.
What makes you think that God currently has a favorable view of the Christian church?

2 Thessalonians 2:3 KJV
Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;

To " fall away" from the truth, you must have had it to begin with. The world ( including those who call themselves jews) never had the truth of the gospel.

Matthew 24:24 KJV
For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect

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What makes you think that God currently has a favorable view of the Christian church?

If you truly are a Christian, then how... could you think God could EVER have an unfavorable view of His Church?? Notice I said HIS Church, which have you not read in Colossians 1:18 that Jesus is the Head of The Church?

How then can Christ's Church ever be corrupted with Christ Jesus as its Head? What happens if someone tries to corrupt it? They are 'cut off'. They no longer are part of His Body the Church. Don't you recall in Revelation 2 & 3 what Jesus said to those Churches which refused to repent of the problems they were having? For the Church at Ephesus He warned them He would remove their "candlestick" (represented in Heaven) from its place.

So you need to get your bearings correct and understand the difference between an earthly flesh location called... a Church compared to the True Church of The Spirit which all TRUE Christians are a member of that remain in the Faith.

Now Lord Jesus revealed 5 problem Churches in His 7 Messages to the Churches in Asia (Revelation 2 & 3). What did He have to say to those 5 Churches about repenting? That's why He gave those 7 Messages, to serve as guideposts for all... Churches today. Only the Churches of Smyrna and Philadelphia He had no problem with, and He mentioned a specific doctrine those two Churches had which the other 5 did not have.

If you are not understanding this from God's Word, then it means you have allowed men's doctrines to have sway in your mind over The Word of God.
 
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What makes you think that God currently has a favorable view of the Christian church?

2 Thessalonians 2:3 KJV
Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;

To " fall away" from the truth, you must have had it to begin with. The world ( including those who call themselves jews) never had the truth of the gospel.

Matthew 24:24 KJV
For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect

The falling away Apostle Paul was pointing to in 2 Thess.2:3 AND VERSE FOUR, WHICH YOU LEFT OUT, is only to occur when that false-Messiah arrives in Jerusalem to play The Christ. It is men's traditions that try to pin that falling away on their Church attendance, etc., etc., just about anything other than what Paul actually linked it to with the coming "man of sin" playing God in a new temple in Jerusalem.

Per Apostle Paul in Romans 11, God Himself has put the "spirit of stupor" upon the majority of the Jews away from The Gospel. God did this so The Gospel would go to the Gentiles Paul said. So you need to get your heart right about that revelation by Paul, for he told us to not be conceited because we have been given The Gospel and have believed, while God Himself has blinded the Jews instead. Paul then revealed God is going to remove that "spirit of stupor" He put upon them when the fullness of the Gentiles comes in, and that won't be until Jesus returns.

As for Matthew 24:23-26, I have already covered that in many threads, showing Jesus was pointing to the coming false-Messiah that will play Him in Jerusalem at the end, working great signs, wonders, and miracles that will deceive the whole world, except His very elect. That is the same one Paul was pointing to as the "man of sin" in 2 Thess.2.

Because you apparently do not understand these things I cover here, it makes me question just what KIND of Church you are in. I don't want to know the Church name or anything like that, I say this because it appears they are teaching you false doctrines that are not written in God's Word.
 

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If you truly are a Christian, then how... could you think God could EVER have an unfavorable view of His Church?? Notice I said HIS Church, which have you not read in Colossians 1:18 that Jesus is the Head of The Church?

How then can Christ's Church ever be corrupted with Christ Jesus as its Head? What happens if someone tries to corrupt it? They are 'cut off'. They no longer are part of His Body the Church. Don't you recall in Revelation 2 & 3 what Jesus said to those Churches which refused to repent of the problems they were having? For the Church at Ephesus He warned them He would remove their "candlestick" (represented in Heaven) from its place.

So you need to get your bearings correct and understand the difference between an earthly flesh location called... a Church compared to the True Church of The Spirit which all TRUE Christians are a member of that remain in the Faith.

Now Lord Jesus revealed 5 problem Churches in His 7 Messages to the Churches in Asia (Revelation 2 & 3). What did He have to say to those 5 Churches about repenting? That's why He gave those 7 Messages, to serve as guideposts for all... Churches today. Only the Churches of Smyrna and Philadelphia He had no problem with, and He mentioned a specific doctrine those two Churches had which the other 5 did not have.

If you are not understanding this from God's Word, then it means you have allowed men's doctrines to have sway in your mind over The Word of God.
Hopefully I can summarize what I believe about the " church" in a few short words.

The body of Christ is a predetermined group of sinners saved by God's mercy. And that's what mercy truly means..... unmerited favor. That God would bestow His love upon us. And to " US" is how many verses are referring to when it comes to Christ's propitiation for " our" sins.

So when we correctly understand who and what makes up the body of Christ, we realize that it has nothing to do with an earthly gathering. In other words Christ's church is written in heaven.

In this regard His church can NEVER turn away from the truth. BUT A CHURCH CONGREGATION CAN.

The " falling away" of 2Thessalonians 2 is when the Holy Spirit is no longer in the midst ( taken out of the way) which simultaneously allows Satan to have full control of the congregations, along with the world which was his to begin with. That's why it is GREAT tribulation, a time like no other, very spiritual in nature. It may be that the light of the gospel will no longer shine during this ( five month?) period. And then it's the end of the world when Jesus comes. Because we are promised the days will be shortened.


Ok. Now about those seven churches. Ever notice in each church God makes a promise ( eternal life) to " him that overcometh?"
The overcomer is the truly saved, born again Christian that is part of the eternal assembly ("church").
 

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I don't think we're there yet. Russia is busy with Ukraine, and even then, their progress has stalled/slowed. If they have so much difficulty defeating a non-nuclear nation, it would be foolish to attack a nuclear nation, especially one allied with the U.S. Russia attacks when Israel is at peace. The reference to unwalled villages in Ezekiel 38 suggests Israel will be defenseless. Two things would have to happen first. Israel will have to give up her nukes. I only see that happening if Hezbollah and Hamas are completely destroyed and they have a peace treaty with the Arab nations with certain "guarantees". The Abraham Accords might be a precursor to that, but again, we're not there yet. The second is the U.S. would have to abandon Israel. That is conceivable with all the anti-Israel rhetoric. It already exists on the Left, and now it has infected the Right. Whether that happens after Trump's presidency remains to be seen. The point being, some things still need to transpire first.
Hi Jericho,

I see you have studies this too. Now `safety,` (Ez. 28: 8) is peace as you said and not yet. The `unwalled villages,` is the Golan heights which do not have the wall as Israel has further down.

I don`t see Hamas or Hezbollah being defeated before the Russian war. However, I do see that they will stop fighting because Iran will tell them too so that Israel can be lulled into thinking there is peace. Iran doesn`t want Israel to be war operational when it joins with Russia.
 

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I'm sorry but I believe you have no clue of what's really going on. I can tell because you are not disclosing the obvious. Who created and runs the world bank? Who has control over our government....both sides of the isle? Who controls the media and it's narrative? Who entertains us with perverted filth? Who are these people, Marilyn, that start wars, famines and economic disaster?

They are the " world system" you speak of. Everything else is a smokescreen.
I agree that there are the elite behind the scenes who control leaders, the media etc however they still have to work through world institutions and nation`s governments.
 

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I agree that there are the elite behind the scenes who control leaders, the media etc however they still have to work through world institutions and nation`s governments.
Yes I agree. That's why they are often referred to as " parasites". Their agenda for almost two thousand years was to infiltrate Gentile nations.
You have to keep in mind that these people do not know the God of the Bible because they rejected Jesus Christ. They live for this world only, and with their unlimited power draw unsaved gentiles into their activities.

Their teachings , along with the guidance of Satan, have allowed them to fulfill the prophetic call to have control over the entire world. That's what the end game of Communism is about ( created by a jew, Moses Mordecai Levi ( a.k.a. Karl Marx). It's just painful to see all the good things around us crumbling away.

But God has a perfect plan, and we are not to look forward to a better current earth, but a new heavens and earth. I always try to remember this when I see the degeneracy and loss of hope for a better time in this country like 60 years ago. That's not going to happen.
 
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Yes I agree. That's why they are often referred to as " parasites". Their agenda for almost two thousand years was to infiltrate Gentile nations.
You have to keep in mind that these people do not know the God of the Bible because they rejected Jesus Christ. They live for this world only, and with their unlimited power draw unsaved gentiles into their activities.

Their teachings , along with the guidance of Satan, have allowed them to fulfill the prophetic call to have control over the entire world. That's what the end game of Communism is about ( created by a jew, Moses Mordecai Levi ( a.k.a. Karl Marx). It's just painful to see all the good things around us crumbling away.

But God has a perfect plan, and we are not to look forward to a better current earth, but a new heavens and earth. I always try to remember this when I see the degeneracy and loss of hope for a better time in this country like 60 years ago. That's not going to happen.
We need to remember that it was Satan who has organized the world system. Remember Satan offered it to Jesus. (Matt. 4: 8 - 10). Also, in Eph. 6: 12 we read of `principalities... powers,...rulers of darkness of this age....spiritual hosts of wickedness...`

And they involve ALL men in their world system, whether Communism, Democracy, (people rule not God) autocracy, etc etc. It is just that Satan through man now has the tools to control all people under one umbrella - Satan. (Rev. 13.
 
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We need to remember that it was Satan who has organized the world system. Remember Satan offered it to Jesus. (Matt. 4: 8 - 10). Also, in Eph. 6: 12 we read of `principalities... powers,...rulers of darkness of this age....spiritual hosts of wickedness...`

And they involve ALL men in their world system, whether Communism, Democracy, (people rule not God) autocracy, etc etc. It is just that Satan through man now has the tools to control all people under one umbrella - Satan. (Rev. 13.
Five years ago I would be in complete agreement with you. But then I started to find out how history was written by those who have the power over media, governments and the flow of money.

The more I researched this aspect or perspective the more it led to world jewry or jewish supremacy. These are NOT the people you think they are.

That's the problem with most people. They don't think there can be a nation of people within a nation that wants nothing better to do than to confuse, pervert, divide and destroy the host.

You, along with many others, need to look into it. Like I've said many times before, if this is God's plan ( which it sure is taking shape that way), we won't be able to change it. HOWEVER (and I capitalize for good reason), God wants true believers to be aware an warn others of the tribulation to come. We have a God given responsibility to be the watchmen.And as always our only hope is in Christ.
 

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Five years ago I would be in complete agreement with you. But then I started to find out how history was written by those who have the power over media, governments and the flow of money.

The more I researched this aspect or perspective the more it led to world jewry or jewish supremacy. These are NOT the people you think they are.

That's the problem with most people. They don't think there can be a nation of people within a nation that wants nothing better to do than to confuse, pervert, divide and destroy the host.

You, along with many others, need to look into it. Like I've said many times before, if this is God's plan ( which it sure is taking shape that way), we won't be able to change it. HOWEVER (and I capitalize for good reason), God wants true believers to be aware an warn others of the tribulation to come. We have a God given responsibility to be the watchmen.And as always our only hope is in Christ.
God will deal with the northern army first. (Ez. 37: 6 Joel 2L 20 Zech. 6: 8)