USA riots

[Avalon1]

It was a tough going today, Avalon!. But so how it goes. You have a good night!

Yeah the troll is strong with this one. Have a good night too.

 

[amadeus]

Thanks amadeus. It's been quite a struggle on this thread today. You have a good night and take care!

I have you in my prayers, my friend!

I really wish there were words that could simply fix this trouble, but the trouble is in men where it has always been, men, who cannot hear... or hearing will not obey. Jesus saw the trouble and he wept! He was falsely accused and he remained silent before his accusers. They wanted to kill him, but could not. He lay his life down.

What is Jesus saying here?

"O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, which killest the prophets, and stonest them that are sent unto thee; how often would I have gathered thy children together, as a hen doth gather her brood under her wings, and ye would not!" Luke 13:34

 

[Avalon1]

Good I think they banned him, theirs an error when you try to go to his profile page.

 

[Grailhunter]

I had already answered these questions, Grailhunter in my summary argumentation: I have taken the positions of these two posters to their simple logical conclusion. This is done to show the falsity of their positions. At bottom, both of these posters are still defaming lawful citizens of the BLM, equating them with the criminals that have infiltrated their assemblies to commit crimes. This position of these posters has not changed. I cannot accept the defamation of lawful protesters exercising their constitutional right of assembly to seek redress of grievances, particularly that of police murder and voter suppression.

You have the constitutional right to have your head up your tail but answer the questions.

 

[Renniks]

Is anyone going to talk about the fact that armed communists are holding American soil and no one is doing anything about it? All this race riot nonsense pales in comparison. God help us.

 

[bbyrd009]

Really don't give a dang about those terrorist, they should be shot for insurrection or dropped into North Korea. On ignore you go.

not sure if youre talking about the cops or the people who have had enough of them lol, i guess the latter?

And are we in agreement on what "fascism" means yet? No coat of many colors, etc? All goose-stepping to the same Broken Drum? kinda thing? i think?

Really don't give a dang about those terrorist, they should be shot for insurrection or dropped into North Korea. On ignore you go.

no offense meant here ok, but Catholics have historically been quite comfortable with fascism i guess

On ignore you go.

for asking for some clarity on a term? Or what exactly? Im getting talked down to by a papist shouldnt even be in here? I mean ignore away, but wadr it is your way of life that is melting, not mine ok. Im working ot!

no offense but your signature line is full of magic incantations in latin and whatever, and im not condemning you, much.

cant we all just get along?

Seems like maybe its the "i dont give a dang" part that needs to change, i mean i maybe disagree with you on some stuff, but surely we have areas we agree on too?

 

[bbyrd009]

Is anyone going to talk about the fact that armed communists are holding American soil and no one is doing anything about it? All this race riot nonsense pales in comparison. God help us.

Communists? Could you clarify there?

Ha we all speak in tongues imo

 

[bbyrd009]

You mock my Christianity and yet want me to give you leave. Sorry. It doesn't work that way.

Stranger

changing your mind is hard, huh
especially with stuff you were born and raised with i guess

 

[bbyrd009]

Steel needs to be sharpened against steel.

ha you know thats prolly a Scriptural put-down, right
but kudos to your responses to stranger, i wish i was that big

 

[Renniks]

Communists? Could you clarify there?

Ha we all speak in tongues imo

Look it up. Call them what you want, I call em what they are.

 

[bbyrd009]

Good I think they banned him, theirs an error when you try to go to his profile page.

i hope he only got a time-out...Stranger can be very thoughtful actually, on other subjects.
Changing your mind is hard, i mean what do you do with a say a ten year old that has just been raised by bigots, where bigotry is the norm?

 

[bbyrd009]

Look it up. Call them what you want, I call em what they are.

wadr that is just another way to say "i am Yah," but really i was just trying to figure out who you were referring to

 

[Renniks]

wadr that is just another way to say "i am Yah," but really i was just trying to figure out who you were referring to

The autonomous zone in Seattle.

 

[bbyrd009]

Yeah I wish they would do something about him, he's throwing gasoline on the fire something that we don't need.

we tend to get a lot of latitude here, which i respect for the most part. And Stranger will surprise you at times, believe it or not. This subject is just a trigger for him i guess

 

[bbyrd009]

The autonomous zone in Seattle.

ah, i guess im behind there, dont watch the news. Yeh, maybe they are communists, too

does that make the Corporations that are getting all of our great-grandkids trillions of dollars Socialists, do you think, or what? I mean your Gov has now "borrowed" like 6 TRILLION DOLLARS from your posterity and bankrupted many mom-and-pops in the process, and wadr none of yours seem to be doing anything about it; wth is Seattle compared to that?

The autonomous zone in Seattle.

i mean its Cap Hill, Seattle, lol, after all? Not saying irrelevant...but that is what change looks like i guess? What would you do if your supposedly hungry or starving brother got murdered by a cop for trying to steal twenty bucks worth of groceries? Id like to imagine i could forgive, but unfort that would prolly be later, not sooner

 

[bukka]

You have the constitutional right to have your head up your tail but answer the questions.

You still don't see the point of it all, Grailhunter. Do you support the Constitution and the Bill of Rights? Do you accept the Golden Rule of Jesus and shall follow him in loving others and he has loved you? These shouldn't be hard answers for you. Once were clear on this, we can go to the other questions. I have to have your support for the Constitution and the Bill of Rights and of Jesus to know that you're arguing in good faith.

If BLM advocates the abolition of police departments and to have them rebuilt if they cannot be reformed, that is their civic right to do so, if the police departments in question are obdurate about reforming.

If you want to deny people the right of assembly to seek redress for grievances, does that mean you're okay about other people coming at you to deny you the right to keep and bear arms? Think about it.

 

[bukka]

Is anyone going to talk about the fact that armed communists are holding American soil and no one is doing anything about it? All this race riot nonsense pales in comparison. God help us.

The OP is about the BLM, Renniks.

I confess that I don't understand you and marks. If you had simply conceded the argument and stated your support for the Constitution and the Bill of Rights, and stated your support for the Golden Rule of Jesus, we could have went on and effectively agreed on some of the minor questions, agreeing to disagree on some other questions, and ending this thread pages ago. By not supporting the Bill of Rights, and the Golden Rule, you ruined the support you may have had for your point of view.

I request you to think about this.

 

[Candidus]

The Racist OP is BLM....

OK...
If racism is such a BIG PROBLEM, why isn't RACIST BLM protesting Affirmative Action, Quotas for Black people, and putting a stop to racist White Guilt? They should be OUTRAGED!

Because THEY ARE THE RACIST PROBLEM!

Who is preaching the Golden Rule to them?

 

[bukka]

The Racist OP is BLM....

OK...
If racism is such a BIG PROBLEM, why isn't RACIST BLM protesting Affirmative Action, Quotas for Black people, and putting a stop to racist White Guilt? They should be OUTRAGED!

Because THEY ARE THE RACIST PROBLEM!

Who is preaching the Golden Rule to them?

You missed the point of the argument, Candidus, as how it unfolded. Like I told Renniks: I confess that I don't understand you and marks. If you had simply conceded the argument and stated your support for the Constitution and the Bill of Rights, and stated your support for the Golden Rule of Jesus, we could have went on and effectively agreed on some of the minor questions, agreeing to disagree on some other questions, and ending this thread pages ago. By not supporting the Bill of Rights, and the Golden Rule, you ruined the support you may have had for your point of view.

If I can't get you to admit that you accept the Constitution and the Bill of Rights, and the Golden Rule, I can't know that you're arguing in good faith. For the people who've followed the argument, they are wondering, rightly so I think, if, whether or not you really support freedom of speech, freedom of the press, freedom of religion, the right of assembly and the right to keep and bear arms. Do you and your fellows support freedom?

If you support white supremacy, eventually you must give up religious faith and freedom. Think about it.

 

[Grailhunter]

You still don't see the point of it all, Grailhunter. Do you support the Constitution and the Bill of Rights? Do you accept the Golden Rule of Jesus and shall follow him in loving others and he has loved you? These shouldn't be hard answers for you. Once were clear on this, we can go to the other questions. I have to have your support for the Constitution and the Bill of Rights and of Jesus to know that you're arguing in good faith.

If BLM advocates the abolition of police departments and to have them rebuilt if they cannot be reformed, that is their civic right to do so, if the police departments in question are obdurate about reforming.

If you want to deny people the right of assembly to seek redress for grievances, does that mean you're okay about other people coming at you to deny you the right to keep and bear arms? Think about it.

So I am going to assume the answer to all the questions are yes..
Let me get this straight...bukka....
You do not think that the black lives matter is not racist?....Yes
You think that lawful protesting includes attacking law enforcement officers, looting destruction of property, and murder?.....Yes
Do you think that because you own a gun that that make you responsible in any way for what others do with guns?....Yes

If you think the constitutional right to assembly and protest includes attacking law enforcement officers, looting destruction of property, and murder....you are a sick person.

No, just because a person owns a gun that does not mean he is responsible for the actions of every lunatic with a gun.

And although the Black Lives Matter movement is constitutional, it is horribly ignorant and racist and if the whites turned that around on the blacks they would protest that. If the whites had rallies and protest showing a white power symbol it would be considered as in sighting violence.

You can write a book on it but you are wrong on all counts.