Was Judas saved?

[Armour of God]

Was Judas saved?
I'm not sure.

Biblical evidence for no.

Matthew 26:23-24
23 Jesus replied, “The one who has dipped his hand into the bowl with me will betray me. 24 The Son of Man will go just as it is written about him. But woe to that man who betrays the Son of Man! It would be better for him if he had not been born.”

This suggests that Judas was not saved

Biblical evidence for yes.

Matthew 27:3-5
3 When Judas, who had betrayed him, saw that Jesus was condemned, he was seized with remorse and returned the thirty pieces of silver to the chief priests and the elders. 4 “I have sinned,” he said, “for I have betrayed innocent blood.”
“What is that to us?” they replied. “That’s your responsibility.”
5 So Judas threw the money into the temple and left. Then he went away and hanged himself.

We see that Judas was remorseful, so he may have repented and may have been saved after all.

I'm not sure. Maybe someone can sway my opinion one way or the other with some good arguments.

 

[shepherdsword]

I am of the opinion he was lost. First of all...his final act was to commit murder...of himself.

Then we have these prophecies about him:

Ps 109:6-8
Set thou a wicked man over him: and let Satan stand at his right hand. When he shall be judged, let him be condemned: and let his prayer become sin. Let his days be few; and let another take his office.

 

[Rockerduck]

He was born to betray, It was prophesied to be. He had the devil in him, as far as I can see.

 

[Armour of God]

He was born to betray, It was prophesied to be. He had the devil in him, as far as I can see.

The devil would NOT of shown any remorse.
Judas did show remorse so I don't think the devil was in him

 

[shepherdsword]

The devil would NOT of shown any remorse.
Judas did show remorse so I don't think the devil was in him

Lk 22:3
Then entered Satan into Judas surnamed Iscariot, being of the number of the twelve.

 

[bdavidc]

Was Judas saved?
I'm not sure.

Biblical evidence for no.

Matthew 26:23-24
23 Jesus replied, “The one who has dipped his hand into the bowl with me will betray me. 24 The Son of Man will go just as it is written about him. But woe to that man who betrays the Son of Man! It would be better for him if he had not been born.”

This suggests that Judas was not saved

Biblical evidence for yes.

Matthew 27:3-5
3 When Judas, who had betrayed him, saw that Jesus was condemned, he was seized with remorse and returned the thirty pieces of silver to the chief priests and the elders. 4 “I have sinned,” he said, “for I have betrayed innocent blood.”
“What is that to us?” they replied. “That’s your responsibility.”
5 So Judas threw the money into the temple and left. Then he went away and hanged himself.

We see that Judas was remorseful, so he may have repented and may have been saved after all.

I'm not sure. Maybe someone can sway my opinion one way or the other with some good arguments.

You’ve got to see this the way Scripture lays it out, not the way people try to soften it after the fact. Judas didn’t just make a mistake and miss a step. He walked alongside the Light of the world and still chose darkness.

Jesus didn’t speak lightly about him. When He said, “it had been good for that man if he had not been born” ~Matthew 26:24, that’s not language for someone headed to eternal life. Nobody in glory would be better off never existing. That’s judgment language. That’s final.

And then Jesus looks at His own disciples and says, “Have not I chosen you twelve, and one of you is a devil?” ~John 6:70. Think about that. Sitting at the same table, hearing the same teaching, watching the same miracles, and still never changed on the inside. That’s the danger right there. You can be close to truth and still not belong to Christ.

In that prayer before the cross, Jesus makes it plain: “those that thou gavest me I have kept, and none of them is lost, but the son of perdition” ~John 17:12. That word “perdition” means destruction, ruin, eternal loss. Judas wasn’t a saved man who fell away. He was never kept because he was never truly His.

Now here’s where people get tripped up. Judas felt bad. He said, “I have sinned” ~Matthew 27:4. But sorrow isn’t the same as repentance. Scripture draws a hard line on that. “For godly sorrow worketh repentance to salvation… but the sorrow of the world worketh death” ~2 Corinthians 7:10. Judas had sorrow that drove him to death. Peter had sorrow that drove him back to Christ. Same failure on the surface, completely different heart underneath.

This is where it hits home. Being around Jesus is not the same as being saved by Jesus. Hearing truth is not the same as believing it. Walking in religious circles is not the same as being born again.

Jesus said it straight: “not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven” ~Matthew 7:21.

Judas is a warning, not a mystery. He shows you what it looks like to be close to Christ and still perish because the heart was never surrendered. Don’t try to rewrite his ending. Let it do what God intended. It’s there to wake people up.

 

[amigo de christo]

You’ve got to see this the way Scripture lays it out, not the way people try to soften it after the fact. Judas didn’t just make a mistake and miss a step. He walked alongside the Light of the world and still chose darkness.

Jesus didn’t speak lightly about him. When He said, “it had been good for that man if he had not been born” ~Matthew 26:24, that’s not language for someone headed to eternal life. Nobody in glory would be better off never existing. That’s judgment language. That’s final.

And then Jesus looks at His own disciples and says, “Have not I chosen you twelve, and one of you is a devil?” ~John 6:70. Think about that. Sitting at the same table, hearing the same teaching, watching the same miracles, and still never changed on the inside. That’s the danger right there. You can be close to truth and still not belong to Christ.

In that prayer before the cross, Jesus makes it plain: “those that thou gavest me I have kept, and none of them is lost, but the son of perdition” ~John 17:12. That word “perdition” means destruction, ruin, eternal loss. Judas wasn’t a saved man who fell away. He was never kept because he was never truly His.

Now here’s where people get tripped up. Judas felt bad. He said, “I have sinned” ~Matthew 27:4. But sorrow isn’t the same as repentance. Scripture draws a hard line on that. “For godly sorrow worketh repentance to salvation… but the sorrow of the world worketh death” ~2 Corinthians 7:10. Judas had sorrow that drove him to death. Peter had sorrow that drove him back to Christ. Same failure on the surface, completely different heart underneath.

This is where it hits home. Being around Jesus is not the same as being saved by Jesus. Hearing truth is not the same as believing it. Walking in religious circles is not the same as being born again.

Jesus said it straight: “not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven” ~Matthew 7:21.

Judas is a warning, not a mystery. He shows you what it looks like to be close to Christ and still perish because the heart was never surrendered. Don’t try to rewrite his ending. Let it do what God intended. It’s there to wake people up.

Indeed my friend .

 

[amigo de christo]

You’ve got to see this the way Scripture lays it out, not the way people try to soften it after the fact. Judas didn’t just make a mistake and miss a step. He walked alongside the Light of the world and still chose darkness.

Jesus didn’t speak lightly about him. When He said, “it had been good for that man if he had not been born” ~Matthew 26:24, that’s not language for someone headed to eternal life. Nobody in glory would be better off never existing. That’s judgment language. That’s final.

And then Jesus looks at His own disciples and says, “Have not I chosen you twelve, and one of you is a devil?” ~John 6:70. Think about that. Sitting at the same table, hearing the same teaching, watching the same miracles, and still never changed on the inside. That’s the danger right there. You can be close to truth and still not belong to Christ.

In that prayer before the cross, Jesus makes it plain: “those that thou gavest me I have kept, and none of them is lost, but the son of perdition” ~John 17:12. That word “perdition” means destruction, ruin, eternal loss. Judas wasn’t a saved man who fell away. He was never kept because he was never truly His.

Now here’s where people get tripped up. Judas felt bad. He said, “I have sinned” ~Matthew 27:4. But sorrow isn’t the same as repentance. Scripture draws a hard line on that. “For godly sorrow worketh repentance to salvation… but the sorrow of the world worketh death” ~2 Corinthians 7:10. Judas had sorrow that drove him to death. Peter had sorrow that drove him back to Christ. Same failure on the surface, completely different heart underneath.

This is where it hits home. Being around Jesus is not the same as being saved by Jesus. Hearing truth is not the same as believing it. Walking in religious circles is not the same as being born again.

Jesus said it straight: “not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven” ~Matthew 7:21.

Judas is a warning, not a mystery. He shows you what it looks like to be close to Christ and still perish because the heart was never surrendered. Don’t try to rewrite his ending. Let it do what God intended. It’s there to wake people up.

many walk along side the gospel , and yet preach unbeleif . Not gonna bode well for them .
OH they will say THEY BELEIVE but then turn around and when asked what ab out other religoins , muslims , jews , buddists and etc
AND ALL OF A SUDDEN they preach UNBELEIF . thus making their beleif ONLY UNBELEIF all along .
WE cant preach both unbeleif and yet claim belief . Either WE BELEIVE or we dont believe . but it cannot be both , BOTH is
ONLY UNBELEIF .

 

[Armour of God]

Lk 22:3
Then entered Satan into Judas surnamed Iscariot, being of the number of the twelve.

He could of still repented and therefore been saved. No one knows for sure

 

[amigo de christo]

He could of still repented and therefore been saved. No one knows for sure

sorry my friend . i understand you dont wanna seem as jugmental and hateful .
BUT JESUS made it very clear and plain that the end of judas was NOT GOOD .
better were it for that man HAD he NEVER been born .
In fact JESUS even calls judas THE SON OF PERDITION . SO yeah not a good end for judas .

 

[Rockerduck]

The devil would NOT of shown any remorse.
Judas did show remorse so I don't think the devil was in him

Demons and the Devils only destroy the body they are in. Jesus said the devil comes to steal, kill, and destroy. John 10:10. So, the devil destroyed Judas, just like any demon possessed person today, they are self destructive.

 

[amigo de christo]

Demons and the Devils only destroy the body they are in. Jesus said the devil comes to steal, kill, and destroy. John 10:10. So, the devil destroyed Judas, just like any demon possessed person today, they are self destructive.

and now a word , a reminder that might very well put fear into the hearts of a very sensual univeralism inclusivms generation .
SOMEONE ELSE can do far more , allow far more to be done .
Fear not he who has the power to kill the body but after than can do nothing .
FEAR HE who has power to kill and to destroy both b ody and soul .
OH yes there is such a place and it do exist . It has been prepared for the devil and his angels
AND For all who rejected JESUS THE CHRIST , who loved a lie , f or the rainbow abominable and etc .
OH ITS R EAL . And JESUS dont honor SINS . SO if we came to a money loving jesus
or a lgbtq jesus , or whatever other sin jesus . BIG MISTAKE . IT was NEVER JESUS . we lov ed something else
who used that name and promised us salvation AND OUR SINS .

 

[amigo de christo]

only the devil would do that . ONLY the devil would have dared to use the ONLY NAME that can save one
JESUS the CHRIST
and yet DREW THEM TO another jesus that served THEIR SINS and lustful hearts desires .
And the devil cannot save YA . HE MEANS ONLY TO DESTROY YOU .

 

[shepherdsword]

He could of still repented and therefore been saved. No one knows for sure

Ps 109:6-8
Set thou a wicked man over him: and let Satan stand at his right hand. When he shall be judged, let him be condemned: and let his prayer become sin. Let his days be few; and let another take his office.

The bible says even his prayer became sin and he would be condemned when judged. His fate is pretty clear when the Lord said this:

Mt 26:24 The Son of man goeth as it is written of him: but woe unto that man by whom the Son of man is betrayed! it had been good for that man if he had not been born.

 

[Armour of God]

Ps 109:6-8
Set thou a wicked man over him: and let Satan stand at his right hand. When he shall be judged, let him be condemned: and let his prayer become sin. Let his days be few; and let another take his office.

The bible says even his prayer became sin and he would be condemned when judged. His fate is pretty clear when the Lord said this:

Mt 26:24 The Son of man goeth as it is written of him: but woe unto that man by whom the Son of man is betrayed! it had been good for that man if he had not been born.

If a person repents of their sins then they are forgiven.
It is possible that Judas repented given his remorseful actions.
No one has proven that to be impossible.

 

[Riven]

He was born to betray, It was prophesied to be. He had the devil in him, as far as I can see.

What does this say about freewill? Are some humans destined to be damned before they're even conceived?

 

[Anchorite]

He could have still repented and therefore been saved. No one knows for sure

The Bible knows for sure if Judas ever repented and got saved. It could not be more clear. Judas had sorrow about betraying Jesus, but sorrow is not enough.

Scripture states “it had been good for that man if he had not been born” ~Matthew 26:24.

Jesus says, “Have not I chosen you twelve, and one of you is a devil?” ~John 6:70.

And again: “those that thou gavest me I have kept, and none of them is lost, but the son of perdition” ~John 17:12.

 

[Rockerduck]

What does this say about freewill? Are some humans destined to be damned before they're even conceived?

I don't have freewill, you might, but I don't. God knows everything you say or do or even think before the foundation of the world. Ephesians 1:4, Psalm 139, and Hebrews 4:13

 

[Behold]

Was Judas saved?
I'm not sure.

Judas was not saved.
He died and went to Hell and not because He committed suicide.

How do we know that Judas was not saved.

Its because He died before Christ shed His Blood on the Cross to save Him.

A.) No Cross = No Salvation.

JESUS ON THE CROSS......Is Salvation...

The NT CHURCH.. the "body of Christ" is birthed by The Cross of Christ and Judas died before Jesus died on The CROSS.
So, there was no Blood atonement, no SALVATION "IN CHRIST" available for JUDAS, as He died before It was available to him.

And He can't be saved in Hell because there is no Cross of Christ offered there..........There is no 2nd Chance to be saved found in Hell.
And How do we know this?
Its because everyone who has died today or any day in the last 2000 yrs and went to hell.....they all BELIEVE IN JESUS NOW.
Everyone of them........and they ALL believe that HELL exists also, tho many of them laughed at this "Jesus freak" preaching during their life, right until they died and ended up in Hell.
So......It wont help them now to believe in Jesus...., as you have to believe before you die....or you will never be saved in eternity.

Now there is a member here , stSteven... who will lead you to Hell if He can, by telling you that you dont have to Trust in Christ and be saved before you die..
So, Atheist or Agnostic or whatever.... you be very wary of that one, as His Gospel is : Galatians 1:8, and He'll lead you to Hell with it, if you listen to Him, and he hopes you will.

This is why the NT verse says,,,,"NOW is THE DAY... of SALVATION"..... which means that its only talking to you, its only giving you this chance to believe in Jesus..... while you are still breathing on this earth.

 

[Armour of God]

What does this say about freewill? Are some humans destined to be damned before they're even conceived?

That's another interesting conversation that warrants its own thread.
Do we have free will or are we predestined.