Was Judas saved?

[Taken]

But when does God know this?

When He decided to Create mankind

Before we're born?

Yes.

If so, wouldn't that suggest God already knows who will be damned and who will be saved in advance?

Yes. The mystery, is mans, Not Gods.

God decided the necessary size, (created and Made) of the Heavens, Earth, Hell… for each, Angel, Animals, And mankind’s human and spiritual bodies.


God bless you.

Glory to God,
Taken

 

[Anchorite]

Just because God has total foreknowledge of all things does not mean God causes or wants them to happen.

Jeremiah 19:5

They have built also the high places of Baal, to burn their sons with fire for burnt offerings unto Baal, which I commanded not, nor spake it, neither came it into my mind:

 

[Ziggy]

Mat 7:21
Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
1Jo 2:17
And the world passeth away, and the lust thereof: but he that doeth the will of God abideth for ever.

Zec 11:13
And the LORD said unto me, Cast it unto the potter: a goodly price that I was prised at of them. And I took the thirty pieces of silver, and cast them to the potter in the house of the LORD.

Mat 27:3
Then Judas, which had betrayed him, when he saw that he was condemned, repented himself, and brought again the thirty pieces of silver to the chief priests and elders,
Mat 27:5
And he cast down the pieces of silver in the temple, and departed, and went and hanged himself.

Mat 21:28
But what think ye? A certain man had two sons; and he came to the first, and said, Son, go work to day in my vineyard.
Mat 21:29
He answered and said, I will not: but afterward he repented, and went.
Mat 21:30
And he came to the second, and said likewise. And he answered and said, I go, sir: and went not.
Mat 21:31
Whether of them twain did the will of his father? They say unto him, The first. Jesus saith unto them, Verily I say unto you, That the publicans and the harlots go into the kingdom of God before you.

I know we need a scapegoat. I know it's easy to accuse people without knowing the whole plan.

Isa 55:11
So shall my word be that goeth forth out of my mouth: it shall not return unto me void, but it shall accomplish that which I please, and it shall prosper in the thing whereto I sent it.

Rom 9:21
Hath not the potter power over the clay, of the same lump to make one vessel unto honour, and another unto dishonour?

Rom 14:4
Who art thou that judgest another man's servant? to his own master he standeth or falleth. Yea, he shall be holden up: for God is able to make him stand.

All I'm saying is that it's up to the Judge.
Hugs

 

[Taken]

Just because God has total foreknowledge of all things does not mean God causes or wants them to happen.

Jeremiah 19:5

They have built also the high places of Baal, to burn their sons with fire for burnt offerings unto Baal, which I commanded not, nor spake it, neither came it into my mind:

God Desires ALL would Choose Him.

But they will not.

God ALLOWS, both Angels and Mankind to freely Choose whatever they want.

And the Freely Choosing Commitment IS Final.
They who Refuse to Choose Him… is an automatic “choice” Against Him.

Matt12:
[30] He that is not with me is against me; and he that gathereth not with me scattereth abroad.

Josh 24:
[15] And if it seem evil unto you to serve the LORD, choose you this day whom ye will serve; whether the gods which your fathers served that were on the other side of the flood, or the gods of the Amorites, in whose land ye dwell: but as for me and my house, we will serve the LORD.

1 Thes 1:
[4] Knowing, brethren beloved, your election of God.



Glory to God,
Taken

 

[Mathētria]

I voted that Judas was not saved, based first on what the Evangelists wrote: Matthew 26:24, 27:3-5; John 6:70-71, 17:12; Psalm 109 applied in Acts 1:25. At least two other reasons of mine are found in the following transcripts dated:

August 1, 1943
In this transcript, Jesus—according to Maria Valtorta—explained why Judas of Kerioth (Iscariot) killed himself (Matthew 27:3-5). I’ve quoted His words from The Notebooks: 1943:

When Judas no longer believed in Me, in the satisfaction of money, or in the protection of human law, he killed himself. Remorse over his crime? No. If it had been that, he would have killed himself immediately after grasping that I knew. But not then, not after the vile kiss and the loving greeting, not then, not when he saw Me spat upon, bound, dragged away amidst a thousand insults. Only after having understood that the law did not protect him—the poor human law, which often creates or provokes crime, but afterwards washes its hands of its executors or accomplices and, if need be, turns against them and, after having used them, strikes them dumb forever by eliminating them—and only after having understood that power and money were not forthcoming or were too base to produce happiness, only then did he kill himself. He was in the darkness of nothingness. He cast himself into the darkness of hell.

March 31, 1944
In this transcript, Jesus—according to Maria Valtorta—explained why Judas of Kerioth (Iscariot) is in Hell for eternity. I’ve quoted His words from The Poem of the Man-God: Vol. 5:

Too many people think that Judas did something of little importance. Some even go to the extent of saying that he is well deserving, because Redemption would not have taken place without him, and that he is therefore justified in the eyes of God.

I solemnly tell you that, if Hell did not already exist and was not perfect in its torments, it would have been created even more dreadful and eternal for Judas, because of all sinners and damned souls, he is the most damned and the biggest sinner, and throughout eternity there will be no mitigation of his sentence.

Remorse could have also saved him, if he had turned remorse into repentance. But he would not repent and, to the first crime of betrayal, still compatible because of the great mercy that is My loving weakness, he added blasphemy, resistance to the voices of Grace, that still wanted to speak to him through recollections, through terrors, through My Blood and My mantle, through My glances, through the traces of the institution of the Eucharist, through the words of My Mother. He resisted everything. He wanted to resist. As he had wanted to betray. As he wanted to curse. As he wanted to commit suicide.

It is one’s will that matters in things. Both in good and in evil. When one falls without the will to follow, I forgive.

Glory be to the Father, and to the Son, and to the Holy Spirit.

 

[rockytopva]

1 And I saw in the right hand of him that sat on the throne a book written within and on the backside, sealed with seven seals.
2 And I saw a strong angel proclaiming with a loud voice, Who is worthy to open the book, and to loose the seals thereof?
3 And no man in heaven, nor in earth, neither under the earth, was able to open the book, neither to look thereon.
4 And I wept much, because no man was found worthy to open and to read the book, neither to look thereon. - Revelation 5

If we are not worthy to look into the book of life we will not know while on this earth who is saved and who is lost.