WATER BAPTISM CAUSES DIVISIONS

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1Pe 4:12
Beloved, think it not strange concerning the fiery trial which is to try you, as though some strange thing happened unto you:





1Pe 4:13
But rejoice, inasmuch as ye are partakers of Christ's sufferings; that, when his glory shall be revealed, ye may be glad also with exceeding joy.

Rom 6:4
Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.

Col 2:12
Buried with him in baptism, wherein also ye are risen with him through the faith of the operation of God, who hath raised him from the dead.

1Pe 3:21
The like figure whereunto even baptism doth also now save us (not the putting away of the filth of the flesh, but the answer of a good conscience toward God,) by the resurrection of Jesus Christ:
1Pe 3:22
Who is gone into heaven, and is on the right hand of God; angels and authorities and powers being made subject unto him.

Heb 10:22
Let us draw near with a true heart in full assurance of faith, having our hearts sprinkled from an evil conscience, and our bodies washed with pure water.

That is level 2.

Level 1 looks like:

Rom 2:5
But after thy hardness and impenitent heart treasurest up unto thyself wrath against the day of wrath and revelation of the righteous judgment of God;
Rom 2:6
Who will render to every man according to his deeds:
Rom 2:7
To them who by patient continuance in well doing seek for glory and honour and immortality, eternal life:
Rom 2:8
But unto them that are contentious, and do not obey the truth, but obey unrighteousness, indignation and wrath,
Rom 2:9
Tribulation and anguish, upon every soul of man that doeth evil, of the Jew first, and also of the Gentile;
Rom 2:10
But glory, honour, and peace, to every man that worketh good, to the Jew first, and also to the Gentile:
Rom 2:11
For there is no respect of persons with God.

Jesus said to follow him and to follow his example that he set for us.

The choice is yours.

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1Pe 4:12
Beloved, think it not strange concerning the fiery trial which is to try you, as though some strange thing happened unto you:





1Pe 4:13
But rejoice, inasmuch as ye are partakers of Christ's sufferings; that, when his glory shall be revealed, ye may be glad also with exceeding joy.

Rom 6:4
Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.

Col 2:12
Buried with him in baptism, wherein also ye are risen with him through the faith of the operation of God, who hath raised him from the dead.

1Pe 3:21
The like figure whereunto even baptism doth also now save us (not the putting away of the filth of the flesh, but the answer of a good conscience toward God,) by the resurrection of Jesus Christ:
1Pe 3:22
Who is gone into heaven, and is on the right hand of God; angels and authorities and powers being made subject unto him.

Heb 10:22
Let us draw near with a true heart in full assurance of faith, having our hearts sprinkled from an evil conscience, and our bodies washed with pure water.

That is level 2.

Level 1 looks like:

Rom 2:5
But after thy hardness and impenitent heart treasurest up unto thyself wrath against the day of wrath and revelation of the righteous judgment of God;
Rom 2:6
Who will render to every man according to his deeds:
Rom 2:7
To them who by patient continuance in well doing seek for glory and honour and immortality, eternal life:
Rom 2:8
But unto them that are contentious, and do not obey the truth, but obey unrighteousness, indignation and wrath,
Rom 2:9
Tribulation and anguish, upon every soul of man that doeth evil, of the Jew first, and also of the Gentile;
Rom 2:10
But glory, honour, and peace, to every man that worketh good, to the Jew first, and also to the Gentile:
Rom 2:11
For there is no respect of persons with God.

Jesus said to follow him and to follow his example that he set for us.

The choice is yours.

Hugs
++++Jesus said to follow him and to follow his example that he set for us.
You claimed that those who do not WATER IMMERSE BAPTIZE will suffer trials & tribulation
Was Pauls or any of the 12 life a piece of cake ?

List the verses where Jesus VIA Paul teaches the "trials & tribulations" believers will suffer if they don't water immerse baptize.
 

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++++Jesus said to follow him and to follow his example that he set for us.
You claimed that those who do not WATER IMMERSE BAPTIZE will suffer trials & tribulation
Was Pauls or any of the 12 life a piece of cake ?

List the verses where Jesus VIA Paul teaches the "trials & tribulations" believers will suffer if they don't water immerse baptize.
Do you believe that Paul preaches something other than what Jesus taught?

Rom 2:8
But unto them that are contentious, and do not obey the truth, but obey unrighteousness, indignation and wrath,

What is the Truth?

Jhn 14:6
Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

Is it righteous to obey the Lord?
Mat 3:15
And Jesus answering said unto him, Suffer it to be so now: for thus it becometh us to fulfil all righteousness. Then he suffered him.

Do you believe that Paul preached something other than what Jesus taught?

Gal 1:9
As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.

Who preached the gospel?

Mat 9:35
And Jesus went about all the cities and villages, teaching in their synagogues, and preaching the gospel of the kingdom, and healing every sickness and every disease among the people.

Did Paul preach the same gospel?

Act 28:30
And Paul dwelt two whole years in his own hired house, and received all that came in unto him,
Act 28:31
Preaching the kingdom of God, and teaching those things which concern the Lord Jesus Christ, with all confidence, no man forbidding him.

Are you afraid of water?

or obedience?

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Do you believe that Paul preaches something other than what Jesus taught?

Rom 2:8
But unto them that are contentious, and do not obey the truth, but obey unrighteousness, indignation and wrath,

What is the Truth?

Jhn 14:6
Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

Is it righteous to obey the Lord?
Mat 3:15
And Jesus answering said unto him, Suffer it to be so now: for thus it becometh us to fulfil all righteousness. Then he suffered him.

Do you believe that Paul preached something other than what Jesus taught?

Gal 1:9
As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.

Who preached the gospel?

Mat 9:35
And Jesus went about all the cities and villages, teaching in their synagogues, and preaching the gospel of the kingdom, and healing every sickness and every disease among the people.

Did Paul preach the same gospel?

Act 28:30
And Paul dwelt two whole years in his own hired house, and received all that came in unto him,
Act 28:31
Preaching the kingdom of God, and teaching those things which concern the Lord Jesus Christ, with all confidence, no man forbidding him.

Are you afraid of water?

or obedience?

Hugs
:D

Matt & John are not Paul
Try again & in context :)

Gal 1:11-12 Jesus taught Paul the Gospel
WHERE in the Gospel that Jesus taught Paul :-
Does Jesus teach that Ziggy will suffer trials & tribulations if Ziggy does not WATER IMMERSE BAPTIZE ?

I'm being polite & respectful & specific as to the request :)
 

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Matt & John are not Paul
Try again & in context :)

Gal 1:11-12 Jesus taught Paul the Gospel
WHERE in the Gospel that Jesus taught Paul :-
Does Jesus teach that Ziggy will suffer trials & tribulations if Ziggy does not WATER IMMERSE BAPTIZE ?

I'm being polite & respectful & specific as to the request :)
I don't have to worry about that because I did get Water Immersed Baptized :D

Jesus once asked his disciples:
Which is greater, the gift upon the altar or the altar?
Mat 23:19
Ye fools and blind: for whether is greater, the gift, or the altar that sanctifieth the gift?

I understand you have a Paul fetish, I get it.
But without Jesus all you would have would be Saul.

Jesus Christ Is King
Paul is simply an Ambassador for Christ.
Amen

I appreciate your politeness and respectfulness, but your questions are becoming wearisome.

What is your argument against Water Immersed Baptism?
Other than Paul didn't mention it?
Which he did when he baptized those that were with him in the beginning.

As I have replied many times, the choice is yours. Why do you keep asking me what others should or shouldn't do?
They have their own decision to make. And it will be their own conscience they will have to answer to, not mine.
I made my choice.

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I don't have to worry about that because I did get Water Immersed Baptized :D

Jesus once asked his disciples:
Which is greater, the gift upon the altar or the altar?
Mat 23:19
Ye fools and blind: for whether is greater, the gift, or the altar that sanctifieth the gift?

I understand you have a Paul fetish, I get it.
But without Jesus all you would have would be Saul.

Jesus Christ Is King
Paul is simply an Ambassador for Christ.
Amen

I appreciate your politeness and respectfulness, but your questions are becoming wearisome.

What is your argument against Water Immersed Baptism?
Other than Paul didn't mention it?
Which he did when he baptized those that were with him in the beginning.

As I have replied many times, the choice is yours. Why do you keep asking me what others should or shouldn't do?
They have their own decision to make. And it will be their own conscience they will have to answer to, not mine.
I made my choice.

Hugs
The polite request was for verses and you failed again
I consider you rude
Bye