Were We Educated or Indoctrinated.

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Wrangler

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I saw a few vids a few weeks ago that prompted me to start this thread. When I have time, I’ll post some of her vids on her experiences studying literature in Ivy League schools. It reminded me of my own experience in “social studies,” as I love history. In our common experience of INDOCTRINATION, we realized the curriculum avoids source material. In its place were a critique or summary of the source material.

I don’t know how many of you were made aware of the errors of scribes over the centuries. One example I was taught was the depiction of a flower. Scribes kept making copies of copies so that over centuries the flower drawn by scribes bore little resemblance to the flower one could observe by going to the source in nature.

In my Civics class, I was looking forward to studying America’s founding documents in an academic setting. I loved my teacher, an old man who retired at the end of my Freshman year. We didn’t and when I asked him about it, he glossed over it being “too difficult” for us to get into. Fast forward a generation, my stepdaughter‘s textbook explained the Progressive era “focused on improving the lives of the common people.” White washed so no rational person could oppose their agenda, it side stepped their means is to subvert our Constitutional federal republic of reserving all non-enumerated powers to the States.

One can understand the political motivation to indoctrinate the next generation to embrace Progressive ideology by default. However, literature? To make the connection, one must grasp how deep the Cultural Marxist rabbit hole of totalitarianism goes.

The author of the vids said the critique or summary of the source materials re-interpreted literature of the past in modern Cultural Marxist terms. Any female author of the past, including George Elliot, wrote of feminist ideas or overcoming oppression of minority groups - even when no fair interpretation of the source material can support such a conclusion. Indeed, the author read some of the books over the summer to be covered in Ivy League classes and when she wrote papers on her source material knowledge, that didn’t parrot Cultural Marxist talking points, she got a bad grade!

The Ivy League professors where emphatic, she must base her writing assignments on the Cultural Marxist critique or summary of the source material. This brave woman quit Ivy League school, realizing the bastion of falsehood it became. Anyone have similar experiences?
 
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I went to public school and university for a couple years. Definitely indoctrinated there. Im glad you pointed out the lack of source material and the agenda at Universities.

I see college as a huge waste of my time. If I want to learn something, I can look into it myself. And my particular college was hardly an academic culture. Just a bunch of young adults going to appease their families like I was.

In my sociology class they taught that minorities could not be racist. What a lie that is! College is just about infusing Marxism into students and wasting time so they don't marry and have children right away. I regret going.
 
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In my Civics class, I was looking forward to studying America’s founding documents in an academic setting. I loved my teacher, an old man who retired at the end of my Freshman year. We didn’t and when I asked him about it, he glossed over it being “too difficult” for us to get into. Fast forward a generation, my stepdaughter‘s textbook explained the Progressive era “focused on improving the lives of the common people.” White washed so no rational person could oppose their agenda, it side stepped their means is to subvert our Constitutional federal republic of reserving all non-enumerated powers to the States.
This was actually between the 1880s and the 1920s. The foremost exponent of progressive ideas was Republican Theodore Roosevelt. And he never advocated restricting the powers of the States.

Some people today call themselves progressives, because they advocate liberal ideas without advocating more government control of people's freedoms. But they aren't truly progressive in the historical meaning of the term.
 

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The Ivy League professors where emphatic, she must base her writing assignments on the Cultural Marxist critique or summary of the source material. This brave woman quit Ivy League school, realizing the bastion of falsehood it became. Anyone have similar experiences?
I was in the sciences, so there wasn't much of that. Apparently, the indoctrination didn't take place in introductory classes. I took sociology, English, and the required liberal arts stuff, but not at higher levels, so I missed all of whatever indoctrination went on. I did take a lot of higher-level history during my time in the service, but the professors were from a state university, and again, no discernible political orientation. I do remember one of them saying that Richard Nixon's foreign policy moves were sometimes brilliant strategy (which is clearly true), but that's about it.
 

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Everyone everywhere is indoctrinated into their family's culture, theology, and ideology.
 

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Were We Educated or Indoctrinated.​

By its very nature, wisdom escapes the foolish though they deem themselves educated. The narrow, rocky lonely trail is not named as such because it's easy and not fraught with multiple pitfalls.
 

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You were in the service? What branch?
Air Force
What was that like?
Not bad. I had graduate work in immunology, so they let me run an immunology clinic. And I got two degrees while I was in , and they paid for both of them. Can't complain at all. I wasn't happy about being drafted while finishing up my first degree, but it worked out fine. Funny thing is, I had some bone abnormalities in my feet. Might have gotten a deferment, but it seemed sort of unpatriotic at the time. When it bothered me in basic training, the clinic helped me with orthotics to make it work.