What Does it Mean…..?

[Aunty Jane]

Those with reborn spiritual senses and not just physical and mental senses: ears to hear and understand in spirit, and eyes to see and know and experience in spirit.

@JustMe made this post on another thread and some deemed the subject to be worthy of a thread of its own….

So in answer to JustMe I asked……

Can you tell us how it is that all who claim these “senses” with “eyes” and “ears” of understanding…and with “experiences in spirit”, do not all hold to the same beliefs?

If one is “born again”……how do they know? And how can they be found in the realm of Christendom, if they cannot agree on many things? (1 Cor 1:10) Does God’s spirit divide people? Or does it unite them…..?

If this “spiritual” experience is not uniform across all denominations then, can it be from God…..or can it more likely be from the trickster who wants you to believe in an “experience” that not all can quite explain the purpose of?

Why do Christians need to be “born again”? What does it result in?

How would you answer? With Scripture of course….

 

[quietthinker]

@JustMe made this post on another thread and some deemed the subject to be worthy of a thread of its own….

So in answer to JustMe I asked……

Can you tell us how it is that all who claim these “senses” with “eyes” and “ears” of understanding…and with “experiences in spirit”, do not all hold to the same beliefs?

If one is “born again”……how do they know? And how can they be found in the realm of Christendom, if they cannot agree on many things? (1 Cor 1:10) Does God’s spirit divide people? Or does it unite them…..?

If this “spiritual” experience is not uniform across all denominations then, can it be from God…..or can it more likely be from the trickster who wants you to believe in an “experience” that not all can quite explain the purpose of?

Why do Christians need to be “born again”? What does it result in?

How would you answer? With Scripture of course….

Why do you want an answer with scripture AJ? It doesn't appear to make any difference to your perspective.

 

[Aunty Jane]

Why do you want an answer with scripture AJ? It doesn't appear to make any difference to your perspective.

Because without Scripture it is personal opinion…..and what is that worth?

How many opinions = truth? It is belief without substance.

 

[quietthinker]

Because without Scripture it is personal opinion…..and what is that worth?

How many opinions = truth? It is belief without substance.

Are you really interested in Truth or do you only want to justify what you think you understand?

 

[nedsk]

@JustMe made this post on another thread and some deemed the subject to be worthy of a thread of its own….

So in answer to JustMe I asked……

Can you tell us how it is that all who claim these “senses” with “eyes” and “ears” of understanding…and with “experiences in spirit”, do not all hold to the same beliefs?

If one is “born again”……how do they know? And how can they be found in the realm of Christendom, if they cannot agree on many things? (1 Cor 1:10) Does God’s spirit divide people? Or does it unite them…..?

If this “spiritual” experience is not uniform across all denominations then, can it be from God…..or can it more likely be from the trickster who wants you to believe in an “experience” that not all can quite explain the purpose of?

Why do Christians need to be “born again”? What does it result in?

How would you answer? With Scripture of course….

I think the argument might hinge on 2 Corinthians 5:17, Consequently anyone united to Christ is a new creation. The old order has passed away. Behold, all has become new.

I guess you could describe that as born again but is that really what it means?

Now Nicodemus uses the phrase born again John 3:4. Jesus uses the phrases, born from above and born of the Spirit. Again I'm not sure it's the same thing.

There are likely others but again not sure they mean "born again".

 

[ScottA]

@JustMe made this post on another thread and some deemed the subject to be worthy of a thread of its own….

So in answer to JustMe I asked……

Can you tell us how it is that all who claim these “senses” with “eyes” and “ears” of understanding…and with “experiences in spirit”, do not all hold to the same beliefs?

If one is “born again”……how do they know? And how can they be found in the realm of Christendom, if they cannot agree on many things? (1 Cor 1:10) Does God’s spirit divide people? Or does it unite them…..?

If this “spiritual” experience is not uniform across all denominations then, can it be from God…..or can it more likely be from the trickster who wants you to believe in an “experience” that not all can quite explain the purpose of?

Why do Christians need to be “born again”? What does it result in?

How would you answer? With Scripture of course….

It is written, "But now indeed there are many members, yet one body" (1 Corinthians 12:20).

Okay--there's some scripture for you. But in light of this being about differences existing under the same One Spirit, I may not always be so obvious.

Those born again, as it is also written, "have passed from death to life", an experience leaving one no doubt about the change. And yet we live in a strange time. This passing from death to life everlasting while remaining in a physical body still under the curse of sin and death--this is something new (since Pentecost) and unique. During these unique times, things are different than one might expect. Yes, we will all be all-knowledgeable--but not yet, not while we under what Paul referred to as "alive but remaining"--in the flesh, in our old bodies, and in the world--as I just said. Those are limiting factors. Which...as it is also written, we all do not presently have all spiritual gifts, but only "some to be apostles, some prophets, some evangelists, and some pastors and teachers", etc,

So...don't be offended. Things are as they are meant to be.