What exactly is ''resting'' on the Sabbath as to keeping it 'Holy'?

[amigo de christo]

The Commandment of GOD given to Moses in Exodus 31:12-17 is repeated by CHRIST in John chapter 3 and throughout the Gospel.

Let me know if you SEE it.

Have i ever mentioned that i am not politcally correct . BIBLICALLY CORRECT is the RIGHT ANSWER .
Cause often i have noticed what is politically correct , is at ODDS with what was written in SAID Bible .
SO GUESS WHICH ONE i am GONNA HEED . Winner to the one who says THE BIBLE . this sheep wont sell out my friend .
I suggest no other does either . TO the trenches one and all . by means of false l ove , tolerance
politically correct agendas , MUCH REBELLION TOWARDS GOD IS NOW HONORED and laws
are GONNA change to appease THE EVIL and to persecute those who conformed not .

 

[WalterandDebbie]

Heb4:8 is quoting OT about Joshua and one would have to know the story to understand what the author is quoting. People apply it what they want it to be but that's not what the author had in mind. All of Hebrews 4 is quoting OT and quite plainly its warning us not following the same path disobedience as those who did not enter into their promised rest i.e. the land full of milk and honey.

Why was another day spoken to enter into Canaan? Because the people rebelled and they had to wander around the wilderness for 40 years and that generation never entered into their land of rest.


The land of milk and honey the inheritance was on this condition



Their inheritance or rest that God was going to give the Israelites was on the condition they fear God, keep His commandments and love God with all their might, soul and heart.

Did they do this? No, many rebelled in the wilderness



And because of this an entire generation lost their inheritance and God plainly spelled out why:



So an entire generation lost their rest, their inheritance their land full of milk and honey because they profaned God's Sabbaths and God related this to breaking another commandment idol worship as they are all interconnected breaking one we break them all even in the NT James2:10-12. God commanded us to keep the seventh day Sabbath holy Exo20:8-11 God wrote this He spoke it, there is no greater authority but when we lay aside the commandment of God for man-made traditions as Jesus taught its worshipping Him in vain or idol worship.

Why we are taught in the NT not to follow this same example of disobedience to enter our rest Rev22:14



This truly cannot be more plain.

No wonder why we are told:


God tells us everything we need to know, there is a reason Jesus who is God told mankind to live by every word that proceeds out of the mouth of God Mat 4:4 instead of deleting it and following the popular traditions of man.

No wonder why we are told in the NT there remains a Sabbath-rest for the people of God Heb4:9 and the rest in this verse literally means keeping the Sabbath

Original Word: σαββατισμός
Part of Speech: Noun, Masculine
Transliteration: sabbatismos
Pronunciation: sab-bat-is-mos'
Phonetic Spelling: (sab-bat-is-mos')
sabbatismos: Sabbath rest
Definition: Sabbath rest
Meaning: a keeping of the Sabbath, a Sabbath rest.

I believe the LORD is coming soon- will we fear God and keep His commandments or fear man and follow what man made popular over the commandments of God. People say God doesn;t care about a day, but God said something different Exo20:8-11 and asked us not to add our words to His. Pro30:5-6

Night all and God Bless!

Hello, LawofLove, Great post, Sister,
Love, Walter

 

[David in NJ]

Sing it
OH they dont care about us . We , as in the peoples of planet earth , IS BEING LIED too folks .
Ya govts dont love ya
This AI race that all nations are running against one the other, Under the guise we need to be first ,
IS a total smokescreen . YOO HOO , ITS bEEN The agenda of the worlde govt
TO GET SUCH A SYSTEM that the WHOLE WORLD IS INTO .
These leaders dont loves ya
They promise this world only A lie . One that will serve them .
What they dont realize is this system is the very system ,
OH i say this mindset to find common ground for a common goal .
OH ITS ALL cunningly been spread into the hearts and minds of elites
and those of darkness , as a means they THINK will best serve them .
Oh but it be only a deception by none other than the sepernt .
Oh , it whispered to the churches , to the mosgues , to jews , to other religions , to humanity
and all who are of the world , OH let us come and b e one
with one common pur pose by which we shall attain world peace n safety .
But known to none of them is , by PEACE HE SHALL DESTROY MANY .
OH we all being lied too all right . And sadly more and more love to hear and to believe THE LIE .

THEY will declare a sabbath rest when THEY say: "Peace & Safety"

Jeremiah 6:14 "They dress the wound of My people with very little care, saying, ‘Peace, peace,’ when there is no peace at all."

The ONLY Peace and REST is in CHRIST

 

[amigo de christo]

The Commandment of GOD given to Moses in Exodus 31:12-17 is repeated by CHRIST in John chapter 3 and throughout the Gospel.

Let me know if you SEE it.

ATONEMENT . same price for rich and for poor .
Notice it was the same price . whether rich or poor . It was for the atonement .
And as moses lifted up the serpent that all who did look upon it was healed
This too is made mention of as well
BY JESUS . for all who look upon him , Believe on HIM , SHALL NOT PERISH . that ol serpent has many
under his sway and its venom is but death .
SOMEONE defeated that one . SOMEONE took the keys of death away .
AND that SOMEONE BE JESUS THE CHRIST who that ecumeincal whore of all harlots
and her interreligious dialgoue DENIED when she told all false religons and christians
YALL serve the same GOD . AND they think lets just be one and have world peace .
Sure brings to memory where it was wri tten
AND BY PEACE SHALL DE DESTROY MANY . only an anti christ would have done
what they did on that stage . SO is it any wonder that is whose peace they be chasing after .
My my how the time does fly . SOON the neutral king shall stand and his kings shall kneel
and lead this world INTO The greatest rebellion against GOD , CHRIST , the saints that has been .
Dragon aint been sleeping david , HIMS been real busy . He has killed saints before
and throughout the ages . THIS TIME ITS THE BIG EVENT of the great tribulation hour it wll b ring against the
last lambs standing .

 

[amigo de christo]

THEY will declare a sabbath rest when THEY say: "Peace & Safety"

Jeremiah 6:14 "They dress the wound of My people with very little care, saying, ‘Peace, peace,’ when there is no peace at all."

The ONLY Peace and REST is in CHRIST

YES IN DEED my friend . And now a word .
FOR when they shall say peace n safety ....................................................................................................................................

 

[amigo de christo]

THEY will declare a sabbath rest when THEY say: "Peace & Safety"

Jeremiah 6:14 "They dress the wound of My people with very little care, saying, ‘Peace, peace,’ when there is no peace at all."

The ONLY Peace and REST is in CHRIST

if you examine the pattern in gensis about noahs days
and sodom and gomorrah
then later in the prophets concering jersualem and israel .
BOY is it identical to this world and within the very walls and halls OF A LOT OF CHRISTEDOM .
SAME identical messages by the false
And when the few warned , same results today . THEY WONT HEAR the true ones
but the false they gather too as T ROOPS to harlots house .
THIS people could really learn a lot IF ONLY they would OPEN PAGES OF THE Bible .
why tehy had seen
the very things that brought the destruction of the world in noahs days
And even in the days of earthen jerusalem
SO TOO is it in this world and now within MUCH of christendom . I mean NUTTING NEW UNDER THAT OL SUN DAVID .
WHEN TRUTH is silenced INQUITY ALWAYS RISES and it always gets fuller and fuller and fuller
UNTIL , BAM ITS JUDG MENT TIME . We are watching it play out NOW david .
IT will get WORSE in the days ahead too .

 

[David in NJ]

ATONEMENT . same price for rich and for poor .
Notice it was the same price . whether rich or poor . It was for the atonement .
And as moses lifted up the serpent that all who did look upon it was healed
This too is made mention of as well
BY JESUS . for all who look upon him , Believe on HIM , SHALL NOT PERISH . that ol serpent has many
under his sway and its venom is but death .
SOMEONE defeated that one . SOMEONE took the keys of death away .
AND that SOMEONE BE JESUS THE CHRIST who that ecumeincal whore of all harlots
and her interreligious dialgoue DENIED when she told all false religons and christians
YALL serve the same GOD . AND they think lets just be one and have world peace .
Sure brings to memory where it was wri tten
AND BY PEACE SHALL DE DESTROY MANY . only an anti christ would have done
what they did on that stage . SO is it any wonder that is whose peace they be chasing after .
My my how the time does fly . SOON the neutral king shall stand and his kings shall kneel
and lead this world INTO The greatest rebellion against GOD , CHRIST , the saints that has been .
Dragon aint been sleeping david , HIMS been real busy . He has killed saints before
and throughout the ages . THIS TIME ITS THE BIG EVENT of the great tribulation hour it wll b ring against the
last lambs standing .

And what was the punishment for refusing the seventh day of rest in the OT = DEATH

Is it not the same punishment for refusing CHRIST???

For God so loved the world that He gave His one and only Son, that everyone who believes in Him shall not perish but have eternal life.
For God did not send His Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through Him.
Whoever believes in Him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe has already been condemned, because he has not believed in the name of God’s one and only Son.

 

[amigo de christo]

THEY will declare a sabbath rest when THEY say: "Peace & Safety"

Jeremiah 6:14 "They dress the wound of My people with very little care, saying, ‘Peace, peace,’ when there is no peace at all."

The ONLY Peace and REST is in CHRIST

I cringed when i seen a key anti christ head of the unholy harlot
say HEALING THE WOUND . we must HEAL the WOUND and all was done to merge us back as one to her
And not only the protestants but also the false religoins .
You ever heard the phrase , WHOSE what , DEADLY WOUND was HEALED.
SOMEONEs being set up . And the kennys and sold out holier than thou and we walk on holy grounders
SOLD this to the protestants with a key cry as well
AS they are and were looking for a big increase in miracles .
SEND US F IRE FROM HEAVEN .
I seen even jews leaders saying FIRE FROM HEAVEN and saying humanity must be the fire .
KINDA ODD dont ya think david .
YOU GOT two key phrases being sold by anti christs , who also sold us the Interreligious dialgoue LIE of an anti christ .
WHAT TWO KEY PRHASES .
HEALING THE WOUND , FIRE FROM HEAVEN .
and now a word .
who decieved them by means of the miracles He had powe to do in the sight of the beast
whose DEADLY WOUND was healed .
HE caused FIRE FROM HEAVEN . G EE , TALK about SOMETHING IS DEAD WRONG david .
And now we got a NO BUY NO SELL POWERERUL DIGITAL SYSTEM
WITH AI , that can SPEAK in any langauage , AN Image that can speak
and can cause all who do not worship the beast ........................YOU SHOULD SEE THE POWER
this thing has david and what they are about to DO TO IT . OH , things sure are getting clearer to THE SHEEP my f riend .
But to the world NOT SO .

 

[David in NJ]

I cringed when i seen a key anti christ head of the unholy harlot
say HEALING THE WOUND . we must HEAL the WOUND and all was done to merge us back as one to her
And not only the protestants but also the false religoins .
You ever heard the phrase , WHOSE what , DEADLY WOUND was HEALED.
SOMEONEs being set up . And the kennys and sold out holier than thou and we walk on holy grounders
SOLD this to the protestants with a key cry as well
AS they are and were looking for a big increase in miracles .
SEND US F IRE FROM HEAVEN .
I seen even jews leaders saying FIRE FROM HEAVEN and saying humanity must be the fire .
KINDA ODD dont ya think david .
YOU GOT two key phrases being sold by anti christs , who also sold us the Interreligious dialgoue LIE of an anti christ .
WHAT TWO KEY PRHASES .
HEALING THE WOUND , FIRE FROM HEAVEN .
and now a word .
who decieved them by means of the miracles He had powe to do in the sight of the beast
whose DEADLY WOUND was healed .
HE caused FIRE FROM HEAVEN . G EE , TALK about SOMETHING IS DEAD WRONG david .
And now we got a NO BUY NO SELL POWERERUL DIGITAL SYSTEM
WITH AI , that can SPEAK in any langauage , AN Image that can speak
and can cause all who do not worship the beast ........................YOU SHOULD SEE THE POWER
this thing has david and what they are about to DO TO IT . OH , things sure are getting clearer to THE SHEEP my f riend .
But to the world NOT SO .

LOVE the HOLY SPIRIT of TRUTH in you my Brother in CHRIST

But many on here do not love the HOLY SPIRIT of Truth = for HE only Speaks of CHRIST being Glorified above all religions

No, they rather heap to themselves teachers having itching ears to hear religious banter that pleases them.

 

[amigo de christo]

And what was the punishment for refusing the seventh day of rest in the OT = DEATH

Is it not the same punishment for refusing CHRIST???

For God so loved the world that He gave His one and only Son, that everyone who believes in Him shall not perish but have eternal life. 17For God did not send His Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through Him.
Whoever believes in Him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe has already been condemned, because he has not believed in the name of God’s one and only Son.

THis age of christendomn is heavily confused now david .
THEY WONT preach JESUS .
but man if you dont worship on a certain day they act as if you know not GOD .
BUT interfaith , OH TO THEM ITS ALL GOOD . kinda odd dont ya think .
MANY jews still do sabbath , i think even muslims do , b ut not sure about that one .
But i can b et THIS . One can honor the sabbath all they want
BUT IF THEY HONOR NOT THE SON , THE LORD OF THE SABBATH , SECOND death awaits them .
THESE people actually more and more beleive the religoins be serving teh same GOD and HIS PLAN
of PEACE is this peace plan THEY DO . oh but when one cometh and preaches JESUS NON STOP
but just because i say about meats drinks and days to let each one SIMPLY BE PERSUADED IN HIS OR HER OWN MIND
that somehow i am the enemy of GOD . OH BUT INTERFAITH IS GOOD THEY THINK .
T HAT IS A DELUSION my friend .
OF course seeing that the INLCUSIVE RELIGOIN of all anti christ religions
IS TO BE CENTERED IN JERUSALEM , of course they going to be led b ack to the law .
DID YOU notice something about this . HAVE you noticed it seems
this entire generation of christendom is now being led FROM FAITH TO CHRIST
and rather back TO THE LAW . OOPSY we got a problem . now some call it love and etc .
BUT IF IT IS NOT by FAITH IN JESUS , but by works , THEN THEY UNDER THE LAW and point
ONLY to SELF RIGTHEOUSNESS . NOT GOD , NOT CHRIST , no they DO NOT POINT TO HIM . but to humanities
own efforts . NOW that aint gonna bode well at all , for them , ON JESUS DAY . not at all .

 

[David in NJ]

YES IN DEED my friend . And now a word .
FOR when they shall say peace n safety ....................................................................................................................................

Sudden destruction will fall upon them

 

[amigo de christo]

LOVE the HOLY SPIRIT of TRUTH in you my Brother in CHRIST

But many on here do not love the HOLY SPIRIT of Truth = for HE only Speaks of CHRIST being Glorified above all religions

No, they rather heap to themselves teachers having itching ears to hear religious banter that pleases them.

The sheep must stick together my friend . stay in prayer that more will hear and repent too .
What is and what is coming will be great persecutions against the sheep .
And all because WE WOULD NOT BEND THE KNEE to their inclusive golden bull .
THEY created what some might call the perfect religion . BY perfect i mean
THE RELIGOIN TO MERGE and convince all religoins , all tribes
that it is LOVE that it is OF GOD and they serve the same GOD .
OH they do serve the same god all right . they threw bits and pieces of what each religoin had
into the mix
JUST LIKE isreal t hrew their g old into the fire
AND OUT came AN HUGE ECUMIENCAL INCLUSIVE Golden bull . that ALL RELIGOINS and PEOPLES
of earth , OF THE WORLD but NOT OF GOD , can relate too .
INCLUSIVE BULL . guess they thought as did isreal
who said to arron make us a god to go before us
AS FOR this moses WE DONT Know what has become of him , HE been gone A LONG TIME .
Todays version , MAKE FOR US AN INCLUSIVE BULL we can all have us a god
AS FOR THIS JESUS HE HAS BEEN GONE A LONG T IME and we wot not what has become of him .
ONLY , ONLY .................
JESUS IS GONNA COME back and all who danced to that inclusive bull WILL PERSIH from off this earth .
ITS WHY i warn david . get OUT of anything ecumeincal , get far from the inclusive cries
AND LET US be in prayer and in our bibles and be hearers and doers of the WORD .

 

[David in NJ]

@David in NJ

Please consider the following;

Jesus did ask people to keep God's commandments, including the Sabbath, though He did not repeat every command one by one because the Jews already knew them. His purpose was not to restate the entire Law word for word, but to teach its true meaning and correct the wrong traditions that had been added around it.

When the rich young ruler asked Jesus how to enter into life, Jesus answered:


Jesus then listed some commandments:


But Jesus did not list every commandment there. He did not directly mention, “Thou shalt not make unto thee a graven image,” “Thou shalt not take the name of the Lord thy God in vain,” “Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy,” or “Thou shalt not covet.” Yet nobody would conclude that these commandments were removed simply because Jesus did not repeat them in that moment. He was not giving a complete list. He was answering the man's question and revealing what was in his heart.

Jesus also said:


Then He continued:


Jesus did not come to remove God's commandments. Instead He taught their deeper meaning. He showed that murder begins with hatred in the heart, adultery can begin in the heart, and true obedience is not only outward actions but inward faithfulness.

Jesus also summarized the Law:


He did not mean the rest of the commandments disappeared. He meant all of them rest upon these two great principles. If a person loves God, he will not worship idols, misuse God's name, or ignore what God commands. If a person loves his neighbor, he will not murder, steal, commit adultery, lie, or covet.

The Sabbath fits into this as well. Jesus never said, “Stop keeping the Sabbath.” Instead He corrected the false burdens that men had placed upon it. He said:


He did not say the Sabbath was abolished. He said it was made for man as a gift and benefit. Jesus healed on the Sabbath, helped people on the Sabbath, and taught that doing good on the Sabbath was lawful. The conflict was not with God's commandment, but with human traditions that had made the day heavy and difficult.

Jesus even spoke of the future after His resurrection and said:


He still spoke of the Sabbath as something meaningful for His followers.

The argument that “Jesus never directly repeated the Sabbath command, therefore it no longer matters” creates a problem because Jesus did not directly repeat every commandment individually either. By that same reasoning people could remove commandments against idols, taking God's name in vain, or coveting. Instead, Jesus pointed people back to God's commandments as a whole and taught their true spirit and purpose. The Jews already knew the commandments; Jesus came not to rewrite them, but to teach people how to truly live them.

Peace Brother.

Note: the sabbath the 4th Command is not an SDA doctrine but it comes from God directly, its from the bible. Jesus, his disciples including Paul kept them all.

LOVE you @LoveYeshua

YES my Brother = CHRIST came to fulfill the law, not destroy it = But WHY?

Because no man, past present and future could fulfill God's law but CHRIST.

Acts 15:10 Now therefore, why do you test God by putting a yoke on the neck of the disciples which neither our fathers nor we were able to bear?

Without CHRIST fulfilling the law, no one could be saved.
Acts 15:11 - But we believe that through the grace of the Lord Jesus Christ we shall be saved in the same manner as they.”

CHRIST never commanded saturday sabbath to continue in the NT as in the OT
The Apostle never commanded saturday sabbath to continue in the NT as in the OT

JESUS Says: "NEW Wine is not put in old wineskins"

Acts 15:10 Now therefore, why do you test God by putting a yoke on the neck of the disciples which neither our fathers nor we were able to bear

What is Commanded by CHRIST and the HOLY SPIRIT is that there is only One REST that can Save us = CHRIST

PLEASE review post 336 = carefully along with Romans chapter 14

Receive one who is weak in the faith, but not to disputes over doubtful things.
For one believes he may eat all things, but he who is weak eats only vegetables. Let not him who eats despise him who does not eat, and let not him who does not eat judge him who eats; for God has received him.
Who are you to judge another’s servant? To his own master he stands or falls. Indeed, he will be made to stand, for God is able to make him stand.

One person esteems one day above another; another esteems every day alike. Let each be fully convinced in his own mind.
He who observes the day, observes it to the Lord;
and he who does not observe the day, to the Lord he does not observe it.

Beware lest anyone cheat you through philosophy and empty deceit, according to the tradition of men, according to the basic principles of the world, and not according to Christ. For in Him dwells all the fullness of the Godhead bodily; and you are complete in Him, who is the head of all principality and power.
So let no one judge you in food or in drink, or regarding a festival or a new moon or sabbaths, which are a shadow of things to come, but the substance is of Christ

The 1st GREATEST GIFT of GOD is CHRIST and the 2nd GREATEST GIFT of GOD is the Baptism of the HOLY SPIRIT

The 3rd GREATEST GIFT of GOD is COMING very SOON

SHALOM

 

[doctrox]

The Commandment of GOD given to Moses in Exodus 31:12-17 is repeated by CHRIST in John chapter 3 and throughout the Gospel.

Let me know if you SEE it.

Post the scriptures along with your claims.

 

[ProDeo]

By HE is a SHE i am hoping and assuming this SHE was born a she and is not a he trying to play a she .
Just a friendly reminder to us all , THAT HOW GOD MADE US FROM THE WOMB is what we are TILL the tomb .
Course i am quite sure you meant it the right way .

Walter called @LawofLove a brother several times while she is a sister, that was all

 

[ProDeo]

Please realize what you are doing, putting the words of man over the the written and spoken word of God. Man does not correct God, its the other way around.

Yes, the majority got it wrong in Scripture and the majority will get it wrong again.



God told us His people would be just a remnant and they are faithful to God and His commandments- His version, not what man changed Dan7:25


God calls everyone to be His servant Isa56:6 but sadly many just do not like the terms- they want all His blessings on their terms and not His Isa56:2

Like I said before, if it is your belief the Saturday Sabbath should be obeyed for the glory of God then that is okay, what I don't like is that the doctrine has become a salvation issue. We are not saved by doctrines but by faith in Christ. I am allergic to churches who proclaim that only they are the right church. Only Jesus knows His sheep.

By the way, which of Ellen White teachings do you follow?

• Forbade use of cheese, butter, and eggs
• Forbade eating of meat
• Recommended deserts not be eaten
• Salad dressing should be made without vinegar
• Coffee and Tea are forbidden
• Mustard, pepper, pickles, and cinnamon are forbidden
• Card-playing, chess, and checkers are banned
• Football, Tennis, Cricket, Baseball, and bike-riding are banned
• Picnics and social parties are not a good idea
• Secular music concerts are not the best use of time
• Fictional writings (or TV shows?) should be avoided
• The theater is off limits
• Billiard halls and bowling alleys are not places for Christians
• The Circus is off limits
• Dance halls are the enemy's territory
• Jewelry is forbidden
• College students cannot date
• Food cannot be prepared upon the Sabbath
• Dishes cannot be washed on the Sabbath
• You should not live in a city

 

[Angelina]

Thank you and I appreciate your openness to have a discussion about it, even if we end up not agreeing. :)

Do you think God righteousness changed and is different for Jews than Gentiles? I do not believe God has two sets of standards. Rom2:11

Once God deems something as doing righteousness - does that change? Is that only for Jews? I do not believe so.

We are told all of God's commandments are righteousness


Which of course included the Sabbath and who did God say it was for just- Jews?


Notice a couple things about these verses.
1. It a future prophecy - my salvation will come
2. Keeping the Sabbath is for those who do justice and righteousness
3. the man- not Jew- God knows the difference - why He said the Sabbath was made for man and the word He used means mankind
4. Lastly notice the contrast keeping the Sabbath is doing justice and righteousness profaning it or not keeping it is doing evil as also shown Neh17:13 - God tells us the reason why Eze20:16 Eze22:26

Do you really think God only wants Jews to do what is justice and righteousness and Gentiles can do evil? That once God deems something as righteousness changes or once God deems something as evil changes? I do not think so.

We are told God's righteousness is everlasting meaning it didn't change from the OT to the NT


Its the foundation of God's Throne


And doing righteousness stays that way in the NT and doing evil stays that way until probations closes at that time our decisions sealed.



This is what God said about His covenant,

The OC was the Ten Commandments


Was there anything wrong with the first covenant? According to God it was the faulty promises, otherwise He would not have changed it.


So the issue was never the words of God's covenant- only worship God, don't steal, keep the Sabbath day holy etc. it was written by the Holy Spirit Exo31:18 and is perfect for converting the soul Psa19:7 so God's commandments was never the issue, the issue was the promises.

The Israelites promised to keep the covenant Exo19:8 but they broke their promise.

This is what God promised about His covenant



So God wants to be in a covenant relationship with His people so He writes a New Covenant based on all new laws. Sadly this is what most teach the very opposite of what God said. This would go against God's own Promise. Why the New Covenant is established on better promises



So instead of God deleting His righteousness He now writes His laws in the minds and hearts of His New Covenant believer. Still made to Israel because Israel represented His son Exo4:22 if it was only literal He would have said Adam. We are grafted in through faith and heirs of the promises Gal 3:26-29


This is the covenant we want to be in with God because its the one that He remembers our sins no more- but it has God's laws now written in our minds so we know to do them and written in our hearts because we want to do His will Psa40:8 through love John14:15-18. They went from tablets of stone, to tablets of heart, not changing the words as God promised, not a jot or tittle so no tinkering with the 4th commandment- the location changed, the promises changed, not God's holy righteous Testimony written by God. What God does is forever Ecc3:14

God never altered His words- man did Dan7:25 as we are warned, not God Mat5:18-19 Psa89:34



This is the council for the Gentiles, no? And right in the middle of it shows they were keeping every Sabbath. Notice it doesn't say Gentiles were not to keep the Sabbath but instead shows them keeping it just as Jesus indicated Isa 56:6-7 because its still a sin in the NT to break the law of God 1John3:4 James 2:10-12



Did you read the context of my post? The context that Paul gave does not fit with the weekly Sabbath that Jesus said was made for man, not against man. Paul's standard was everything according to Christ. Where does Christ ever teach we do not need to keep the commandments? Paul taught keeping them is what matters and he also faithfully kept every Sabbath decades and decades after the Cross Acts 17:2 Acts 18:4 just as Jesus indicated His faithful would be doing Mat24:20

Romans 14 is about doubtful disputations - about opinions of man, not debating if they should or should not keep one of God's commandments. Hence why the Sabbath is not mentioned in the entire chapter. If we center our doctrine around Christ like Paul, like Jesus told mankind to live Mat4:4 He will only lead us on the narrow path back to reconciliation Rev14:12

@LawofLove,
Thank you again for the thoughtful response. I do respect the seriousness with which you approach scripture and your desire to obey God faithfully.

I also agree with several things you said: God’s righteousness does not change. God does not have one moral standard for Jews and another for Gentiles. Sin is still sin. Believers are called to holiness and obedience.

But I still believe there is an important distinction between God’s eternal righteousness and the covenantal administration given through Sinai.

I do not believe the question is: - “Did God ever call the Sabbath holy?” Clearly He did.

The question is: - “Did the apostles teach that seventh-day Sabbath observance is binding upon Gentile believers under the new covenant in the same covenantal sense as under Sinai?”

I still do not see that explicitly taught.

You quoted Isaiah 56, which is a beautiful passage, but I do not think prophetic inclusion language automatically settles the covenant question after Christ’s resurrection. The New Testament writers repeatedly reinterpret covenant signs through fulfillment in Christ.

For example:
Circumcision was commanded by God,
Sacrifices were commanded by God.
Temple worship was commanded by God,
Dietary distinctions were commanded by God.

Yet the apostles explain how these things are fulfilled or transformed under the new covenant.

So simply proving that something was holy, commanded, or prophetic in the Old Testament does not automatically establish that it remains universally binding in the same form under the new covenant.

I also think Hebrews places strong emphasis on transition and fulfillment. Yes, the law is written on believers’ hearts, but Hebrews also says the covenant itself became obsolete and was passing away (Heb. 8:13). So the discussion cannot simply be reduced to “nothing changed except location.”

Something significant did change covenantally through Christ’s priesthood, mediation, and fulfillment.

Regarding Acts 15, I understand your point, but I still think the silence is difficult to overcome. The council was specifically deciding what obligations to place upon Gentile believers. If seventh-day Sabbath observance were a binding covenant requirement for all nations, that seems like the clearest possible moment to say so plainly.

Instead, the apostles explicitly mention some things and do not mention Sabbath observance.

Acts 15:21 explains that Moses was read in synagogues, but descriptive statements are not necessarily covenant commands. Otherwise, many synagogue customs would become binding as well.

In Colossians 2, I understand that you distinguish ceremonial sabbaths from the weekly Sabbath. But Paul still groups together festivals, new moons, and sabbaths using language repeatedly associated with the Jewish calendar system as a whole. At minimum, the passage shows that Paul was not treating calendar observance as the central defining mark of covenant faithfulness under Christ.

Romans 14 is also difficult for me to dismiss so narrowly. Even if the chapter concerns disputable matters, Paul still permits liberty regarding esteemed days. It is hard for me to reconcile that with the idea that violation of the Sabbath is morally equivalent to breaking commandments like adultery or idolatry.

I also do not believe the examples of Paul attending synagogue on Sabbath necessarily establish a universal command. Paul regularly entered synagogues because that was where Jews and God-fearers gathered to hear scripture and discuss theology. That demonstrates missionary practice and cultural engagement, but not necessarily covenant obligation upon all believers.

I think where we differ most is this:

You seem to see the Sabbath as a continuing covenant sign universally binding upon the church.

I see Christ Himself as the central fulfillment and defining reality of the new covenant, with the apostles placing the emphasis on faith working through love, the indwelling Spirit, holiness, and union with Christ - while not explicitly binding Gentile believers to seventh-day observance as a covenant requirement.

I absolutely support believers dedicating time to worship, rest, prayer, and devotion to God. But I remain unconvinced that the apostles taught seventh-day Sabbath observance as universally binding upon all Gentile believers under the new covenant.

 

[Angelina]

Hebrews 4 actually explicitly says to keep the Sabbath. The Sabbath is spiritual but its also physical too. God does not want us working 7 days a week, He wants to spend sanctified time with us why He set aside the Sabbath from Creation. Hebrews 4 is mainly quoting OT and its about literally keeping the Sabbath that remains for the people of God.




So its not just spiritual God rested on the seventh day from all His works and this passage is quoting the 4th commandment that God spoke in this way of the seventh day Exo20:8-11

And we see by verse 10 there are two rests in this passage, not one.

“For he who has entered His rest has himself also ceased from his works as God did from His” — Hebrews 4:10 (NKJV)

Those who enter Christ's rest also, which means in addition, they also cease from their works as God did. When did God cease from His works? Only one day and this very passage re-enforces this:

“For He has spoken in a certain place of the seventh day in this way: “And God rested on the seventh day from all His works

Those resting in Christ also rest from the physical day the seventh day as Christ did from His works Exo20:10 to keep the Sabbath day holy, its a day of holy communion with God and our fellow man. Exo20:8-11 Lev23:3 Isa58:13 Luke 4:16 Acts 13:44 Acts 15:21 Isa66:23 etc

In God's rest no one is in rebellion to His commandments, thats not rest thats unrest Rev14:11-12 Isa 48:18

Why the Sabbath-rest remains for the people of God as shown in verse 9

“There remains, then, a Sabbath-rest for the people of God” — Hebrews 4:9

and the rest in this verse literally means keeping the Sabbath- for the people of God.

Original Word: σαββατισμός
Part of Speech: Noun, Masculine
Transliteration: sabbatismos
Pronunciation: sab-bat-is-mos'
Phonetic Spelling: (sab-bat-is-mos')
sabbatismos: Sabbath rest
Definition: Sabbath rest
Meaning: a keeping of the Sabbath, a Sabbath rest.

This is who God's commandments are for:

“but showing mercy to thousands, to those who love Me and keep My commandments” — Exodus 20:6 (NKJV)
“Here is the patience of the saints; here are those who keep the commandments of God and the faith of Jesus” — Revelation 14:12 (NKJV)

@LawofLove,
In Hebrews 4, I think the key issue is how we understand the nature of the “rest” being described. I agree the passage draws on the seventh day from Genesis, and I agree that God’s rest is real and meaningful. Where we differ is whether Hebrews 4 is re-establishing seventh-day observance as a covenant command for Gentile believers.

The passage itself moves between several layers of meaning:

God’s rest after creation (Gen. 2)
Israel’s failure to enter rest in the wilderness (Psalm 95)
Joshua not ultimately giving final rest
And then Christ as the fulfillment of that promised rest

That movement is important. Hebrews 4 is not simply repeating Exodus 20 as a command; it is building a theological argument about entering God’s rest through faith in Christ.

Even the term “sabbatismos” does not automatically settle the question. A word meaning “Sabbath-rest” still has to be interpreted in context. The question is whether the author is commanding calendar observance or using Sabbath language to describe a deeper reality fulfilled in Christ.

Verse 10 is often central in this discussion. It says the one who enters God’s rest ceases from works as God did from His. But the text does not explicitly say, "Therefore, keep the seventh day.” It draws a comparison between God’s rest and the believer’s rest in Christ. The emphasis throughout Hebrews is consistently Christological: He is the better priest, better sacrifice, better covenant, and the one who brings believers into final rest.

I don’t see Hebrews 4 isolating one day of the week as a binding covenant requirement for Gentile believers. I see it presenting the Sabbath pattern as a shadow that points to something greater and more complete in Christ.

On your broader point, I agree that God desires His people to rest, worship, and set time apart for Him. The disagreement is not about whether rest matters but whether the New Testament explicitly binds the seventh day upon all nations under Christ in the same covenantal way as Israel under Sinai.

And that is still the question I do not see directly answered with an explicit apostolic command.

So my position remains:

Hebrews 4 affirms God’s rest and uses Sabbath imagery powerfully, but it does not clearly reimpose seventh-day observance as a covenant obligation on Gentile believers under the new covenant.

 

[Angelina]

@LawofLove, “Can you point me to a clear New Testament command where the apostles require Gentile believers in Christ to keep the seventh-day Sabbath as a covenant obligation?”

 

[LawofLove]

Hello, LawofLove, Great post, Sister,
Love, Walter

Thank you Walter and God Bless!