What exactly is ''resting'' on the Sabbath as to keeping it 'Holy'?

[LawofLove]

Christ said:

Mat 11:28 Come to Me, all you who labor and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest. 29 Take My yoke upon you and learn from Me, for I am [a]gentle and lowly in heart, and you will find rest for your souls. 30 For My yoke is easy and My burden is light.”

Many believe and teach Christ's rest some how relieves our moral obligation to obey the Sabbath commandment, but is this what Jesus is teaching?

Jesus said this and still kept the Sabbath going to church reading God's word Luke 4:16 as the apostles did following in His footsteps keeping every Sabbath in the same manner decades after the Cross Acts 15:21 Acts 13:42 Acts 13:44 Acts 18:4 as the Sabbath is a holy convocation Lev 23:3 and we see that continuing on in the New Heaven and New Earth Isa 66:22-23

So what rest is Christ referring to?

Psa 38:3 There is no soundness in my flesh because of thine anger; neither is there any rest in my bones because of my sin.4 For mine iniquities are gone over mine head: as an heavy burden they are too heavy for me.

The rest Jesus is giving us when we come to Him is rest from our sins. Jesus came to save us from our sins Mat 1:21 we are not saved in our sins Heb 10:26-30

Sin is:
1 John 3:4 Whoever commits sin also commits lawlessness, and sin is lawlessness.
James 2:11-12 For He who said, “Do not commit adultery,” also said, “Do not murder.” Now if you do not commit adultery, but you do murder, you have become a transgressor of the law. quoting and contrasting directly from the Ten Commandments breaking one we break them all
Rom 7:7 What shall we say then? Is the law sin? Certainly not! On the contrary, I would not have known sin except through the law. For I would not have known covetousness unless the law had said, “You shall not covet.”
Rom 14:23 But he who doubts is condemned if he eats, because he does not eat from faith; for whatever is not from faith is sin.


The Israelites thought they didn't have to keep the Sabbath either and it prevented many from entering their promised land of rest. God related this to idol worship.

Eze 20:15 “So I also raised My hand in an oath to them in the wilderness, that I would not bring them into the land which I had given them, ‘flowing with milk and honey,’ the glory of all lands
because they despised My judgments and did not walk in My statutes, but profaned My Sabbaths; for their heart went after their idols” — Ezekiel 20:15–16 (NKJV)

Sadly most are teaching people to follow in this same example of disobedience when the Bible very clearly tells us not to.

Heb 4:11 “Let us therefore be diligent to enter that rest, lest anyone fall according to the same example of disobedience” — Hebrews 4:11 (NKJV)

 

[LawofLove]

I never said anything of the sort. Where is you mind that you would think so? (Rhetorical)

Than you hold a different standard to the 4th commandment when God didn't. He placed keeping the Sabbath day holy in the same unit as not stealing, lying and cheating. He placed it in the same unit as only worshipping Him and than wrote Remember on the Sabbath commandment as He knew most would forget. I guess its a matter of which voice one will subject themselves to.

And now you return to your own vomit--burdening gentiles with things commanded of the house of Israel alone. "It is finished."

That doesn;t say do not keep the 4th commandment. But sad one would equate that to something the LORD of heaven blessed and sanctified. Exo20:11 Gen2:1-3

Repent therefore--and "love the Lord your God with all your heart, with all your soul, with all your strength, and with all your mind,’ and ‘your neighbor as yourself."

Now live it.

Do you know that God included the 4th commandment in the greatest commandments to love God with all our heart, mind and soul and I can prove that from Scripture. Would you like to see it? Or are we so set in our ways that the words of the LORD of He telling us how to love Him doesn't matter?

 

[LawofLove]

Same is true of the Sabbath rest- also expanded & internal- it is no longer one day of resting from work- now- we rest daily from our works.

Can you point to the Scripture that says this? While I agree God did magnify His law as promised Isa42:21 He plainly said not a jot or tittle can pass from the law and not to break or teach others to break the least of these commandments Mat5:18-19

There we have freedom- rest from trying to earn- our faith works through love. Love fulfills the law. Without love we have nothing.
All of the 10 commandants were based in love. When we love God and others- we fulfill the law.

Yes the Ten Commandments are based on LOVE- how we love God how we love our neighbor Rom13:9 so if we steal from our neighbor is that love? Is we worship another god is that love to God? Removing one of God's commandments and then editing to mean something different when God said not to Deut4:2 Deut 12:32 Ecc3:14 doesn't change what God asked us to do if we love Him Exo20:6 Rev14:12

We are free to gather for worship any day or night of the week- Jesus is there with us when 2 or more gather in HIS name.
IF you are resting from works of the law and resting in Christ- you are keeping the Sabbath as you ought to everyday.

It would be impossible to keep the Sabbath daily because God said the Sabbath is the seventh day Exo20:10 God wrote this and spoke it and as far as I am concerned there is no one greater than He. God commanded us to work six days Exo20:9 and keep one day holy the seventh day, the Sabbath of the LORD Exo20:8-11 He commanded us not to do work and labors so if no one worked for 7 days day we would all die of starvation. God in His great wisdom gives us six days to get all of our works and labors done and only asked for one day dedicated to Him. Was it the day of our choice? No. He plainly only blessed and sanctified or set aside the seventh day to keep it holy Exo20:8-11. If God asked us to keep the second day holy, who are we to argue with God. God is very specific He never told Adam and Eve don't eat from any tree but one- and you pick the one. Same with the day God of the Universe personally spoke its not the day of our choice, its the day He said.

God both wrote and spoke these Words:

Exo 20:8““Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy
Six days you shall labor and do all your work
but the seventh day is the Sabbath of the LORD your God. In it you shall do no work: you, nor your son, nor your daughter, nor your male servant, nor your female servant, nor your cattle, nor your stranger who is within your gates
For in six days the LORD made the heavens and the earth, the sea, and all that is in them, and rested the seventh day. Therefore the LORD blessed the Sabbath day and hallowed it” — Exodus 20:8–11 (NKJV)

The one day a week keepers get angry at this. It's such a shame.

We should worship God everyday - but Jesus related true worship to keeping the commandments of God Mat15:3-14 Mark7:7-13 so those who worship Him hear His voice and obey Him through love and faith.

 

[PS95]

Can you point to the Scripture that says this? While I agree God did magnify His law as promised Isa42:21 He plainly said not a jot or tittle can pass from the law and not to break or teach others to break the least of these commandments Mat5:18-19

Take your time and read and understand chapter 4 of Hebrews. In that way do we fulfill the Sabbath. I am not breaking the Sabbath by resting from my works daily I keep it. Now how about you show me in the NT where we are told to keep the Sabbath day on any particular day? It's not there- but Hebrews 4 is teaching us the true meaning of it.

Yes the Ten Commandments are based on LOVE- how we love God how we love our neighbor Rom13:9 so if we steal from our neighbor is that love? Is we worship another god is that love to God? Removing one of God's commandments and then editing to mean something different when God said not to Deut4:2 Deut 12:32 Ecc3:14 doesn't change what God asked us to do if we love Him Exo20:6 Rev14:12

Again- Hebrews 4 teaches us that the Sabbath REST has a true deeper meaning---
like all of the 10 commands- it is now expanded and internal.
Cleaning the outside of the cup does nothing. God works on us internally. The Sabbath keeping is also internally by faith.

It would be impossible to keep the Sabbath daily because God said the Sabbath is the seventh day Exo20:10 God wrote this and spoke it and as far as I am concerned there is no one greater than He. God commanded us to work six days Exo20:9 and keep one day holy the seventh day, the Sabbath of the LORD Exo20:8-11 He commanded us not to do work and labors so if no one worked for 7 days day we would all die of starvation. God in His great wisdom gives us six days to get all of our works and labors done and only asked for one day dedicated to Him. Was it the day of our choice? No. He plainly only blessed and sanctified or set aside the seventh day to keep it holy Exo20:8-11. If God asked us to keep the second day holy, who are we to argue with God. God is very specific He never told Adam and Eve don't eat from any tree but one- and you pick the one. Same with the day God of the Universe personally spoke its not the day of our choice, its the day He said.

God both wrote and spoke these Words:

Exo 20:8““Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy
Six days you shall labor and do all your work
but the seventh day is the Sabbath of the LORD your God. In it you shall do no work: you, nor your son, nor your daughter, nor your male servant, nor your female servant, nor your cattle, nor your stranger who is within your gates
For in six days the LORD made the heavens and the earth, the sea, and all that is in them, and rested the seventh day. Therefore the LORD blessed the Sabbath day and hallowed it” — Exodus 20:8–11 (NKJV)

We should worship God everyday - but Jesus related true worship to keeping the commandments of God Mat15:3-14 Mark7:7-13 so those who worship Him hear His voice and obey Him through love and faith.

I am sorry once you understand Hebrews 4 all of that will make sense. It is very holy! It could not be any holier than to trust in Christ for rest from gaining salvation by works!! You speak as if you don't understand that we are not under the law- but grace. Are you able to rest from your works? You are not doing God a favor by keeping a day. The Sabbath was made for you- it is a beautiful thing once you understand it. Try reading it a few times- prayerfully and wait.
Are you SDA?

 

[ScottA]

That doesn;t say do not keep the 4th commandment. But sad one would equate that to something the LORD of heaven blessed and sanctified. Exo20:11 Gen2:1-3

If you are going to be ridiculous... It doesn't say eat your vegetables either.

But the scriptures go on to include more and less than you are tracking with--you're just picking and choosing what seems right to YOU.

 

[ScottA]

Do you know that God included the 4th commandment in the greatest commandments to love God with all our heart, mind and soul and I can prove that from Scripture. Would you like to see it? Or are we so set in our ways that the words of the LORD of He telling us how to love Him doesn't matter?

Do you know that you are as much as omitting the gospels of Jesus Christ, and that He came not to destroy the commandments, but to fulfill them?

Apparently not.

 

[LawofLove]

Take your time and read and understand chapter 4 of Hebrews. In that way do we fulfill the Sabbath. I am not breaking the Sabbath by resting from my works daily I keep it. Now how about you show me in the NT where we are told to keep the Sabbath day on any particular day? It's not there- but Hebrews 4 is teaching us the true meaning of it.

Again- Hebrews 4 teaches us that the Sabbath REST has a true deeper meaning---
like all of the 10 commands- it is now expanded and internal.
Cleaning the outside of the cup does nothing. God works on us internally. The Sabbath keeping is also internally by faith.

I am sorry once you understand Hebrews 4 all of that will make sense. It is very holy! It could not be any holier than to trust in Christ for rest from gaining salvation by works!! You speak as if you don't understand that we are not under the law- but grace. Are you able to rest from your works? You are not doing God a favor by keeping a day. The Sabbath was made for you- it is a beautiful thing once you understand it. Try reading it a few times- prayerfully and wait.
Are you SDA?

I have studied Hebrews 4 for a long time. I am happy to look at each verse and go through.

Did you know Hebrews 4 is quoting OT? Can you show me through Scripture the 5 OT references in Hebrews 4? Without understanding the references its quoting would be possible to truly understand what its teaching. Its definitely not teaching we can break the law of God, but actually its warning the very opposite.

 

[LawofLove]

Do you know that you are as much as omitting the gospels of Jesus Christ, and that He came not to destroy the commandments, but to fulfill them?

Apparently not.

That's exactly what I said He did not come to destroy the law as sadly so many teach He came to fulfill them (magnify Isa42:21)- and He was prophesized to make magnify the law- make it bigger and He did that by writing the law of God in our hearts, relating thoughts of anger with the commandment thou shalt not murder, teaching not to break or teach others to break the least of these commandments and in doing so one would be in danger of sin and judgement Mat5:17-30

So- any interest in seeing how God related the Sabbath as part of the greatest commandments?

 

[ScottA]

That's exactly what I said He did not come to destroy the law as sadly so many teach He came to fulfill them- and He was prophesized to make magnify the law- make it bigger and He did that by writing the law of God in our hearts, teaching not to break or teach others to break the least of these commandments and in doing so one would be in danger of sin and judgement Mat5:17-30 Isa 42:21

So- any interest in seeing how God related the Sabbath as part of the greatest commandments?

You have just confirmed that you deny that Jesus actually fulfilled the the commandments--even after I quoted Him saying He did.

So, no, not interested in anything further from one who is against Christ.

 

[LawofLove]

You have just confirmed that you deny that Jesus actually fulfilled the the commandments.

So, no, not interested in anything further from one who is against Christ.

Weird I said the exact opposite. I just do not relate fulfilled as destroyed but instead what He promised to fulfill, make them larger, not smaller Isa42:21 which is exactly what He accomplished relating thoughts of lust with thou shalt not commit adultery and thoughts of anger with thou shalt not murder- - if our thoughts change our actions change, the commandments of God kept. He plainly did not teach we no longer need to keep the commandments but plainly said the exact opposite Mat5:19-30

 

[ScottA]

Weird I said the exact opposite. I just do not relate fulfilled as destroyed but instead what He promised to do, make them larger, not smaller Isa42:21

I quoted you. What you said is record.

But sorry, you don't get to "relate" things to mean something different than what Jesus said.

 

[LawofLove]

I quoted you. What you said is record.

But sorry, you don't get to "relate" things to mean something different than what Jesus said.

I'll stand by what I said because its what God said :

This is what Jesus fulfilled in Mat5:17
Isa 42:21 “The LORD is well pleased for his righteousness’ sake; he will magnify the law, and make it honourable.” — Isaiah 42:21 (KJV)

And told us to do with His commandments
“Whoever therefore breaks one of the least of these commandments, and teaches men so, shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven; but whoever does and teaches them, he shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven” — Matthew 5:19 (NKJV)

He will sort it all out soon enough.

 

[PS95]

I have studied Hebrews 4 for a long time. I am happy to look at each verse and go through.

Did you know Hebrews 4 is quoting OT? Can you show me through Scripture the 5 OT references in Hebrews 4? Without understanding the references its quoting would be possible to truly understand what its teaching. Its definitely not teaching we can break the law of God, but actually its warning the very opposite.

Of course I know the OT is quoted just as it is throughout the NT. Don't be a wise guy. I am not going to play your game. I already told you that it is not breaking a thing. It is the exact opposite- we fulfill it- If you are going to be unreasonable and not read what I wrote- there is no point in discussing. Again- are you SDA?

 

[LoveYeshua]

The Sabbath was given as a sign and covenant between god and Israel alone! To thei day, even belieivng Jews are called to keep the Sabbath.

Exodus 31:12-17​

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12 And the Lord spake unto Moses, saying,
13 Speak thou also unto the children of Israel, saying, Verily my sabbaths ye shall keep: for it is a sign between me and you throughout your generations; that ye may know that I am the Lord that doth sanctify you.
14 Ye shall keep the sabbath therefore; for it is holy unto you: every one that defileth it shall surely be put to death: for whosoever doeth any work therein, that soul shall be cut off from among his people.
15 Six days may work be done; but in the seventh is the sabbath of rest, holy to the Lord: whosoever doeth any work in the sabbath day, he shall surely be put to death.
16 Wherefore the children of Israel shall keep the sabbath, to observe the sabbath throughout their generations, for a perpetual covenant.
17 It is a sign between me and the children of Israel for ever: for in six days the Lord made heaven and earth, and on the seventh day he rested, and was refreshed.

As a believer and a Gentile (if you are) you are under no legal obligation to keep Shabbat.

Paul made this clear in Romans 14:

Romans 14​

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14 Him that is weak in the faith receive ye, but not to doubtful disputations.
2 For one believeth that he may eat all things: another, who is weak, eateth herbs.
3 Let not him that eateth despise him that eateth not; and let not him which eateth not judge him that eateth: for God hath received him.
4 Who art thou that judgest another man's servant? to his own master he standeth or falleth. Yea, he shall be holden up: for God is able to make him stand.
5 One man esteemeth one day above another: another esteemeth every day alike. Let every man be fully persuaded in his own mind.
6 He that regardeth the day, regardeth it unto the Lord; and he that regardeth not the day, to the Lord he doth not regard it. He that eateth, eateth to the Lord, for he giveth God thanks; and he that eateth not, to the Lord he eateth not, and giveth God thanks.

No Ronald all mankind not only Jews, the sabbath is part of the covenant ( the ten commandments). jesus told us clearly to keep it. @Jay Ross nailed it perfectly read his post no 7 of this thread, its not complicated to keep we dont need dishwashers or ovens with a "sabbath Mode"

Paul was speaking of the numerous different sabbath there were mote than 10 of them he was not speaking of the covenant, commandment no 4 sabbath. that one is perpetual for Jews and gentiles. I am certain of this.

Isa 56:6 Also the foreigners that join themselves to Jehovah, to minister unto him, and to love the name of Jehovah, to be his servants, every one that keepeth the sabbath from profaning it, and holdeth fast my covenant;

 

[LawofLove]

Of course I know the OT is quoted just as it is throughout the NT. I'm sorry I am not going to play your game. Again- are you SDA?

If you knew its OT that's being quoted you would know its not about changing something God said is unchangeable. Ecc3:14 Psa89:23 Mat5:18-19

I am SDA but not sure why that matters I like to stick with the Scriptures so hats what matters.

What denomination are you?

 

[Grailhunter]

Sorry, I didn't understand some of the sentence structure in answer to my question specifically?

You want a simple answer......
What you are discussing is a Jewish Law about keeping the Saturday Jewish Sabbath Holy. We are not Jews, the Sabbath is not part of our religion.

We call Sunday the Lord's Day. Not necessarily rest. You may exhaust yourself worshipping the Lord. Church services, Sunday School, Church plays, Church picnics.....Fellowship down at the river fishing. The day is a full God day and a full family day.

If you want to rest in the lazy boy, do it on Saturday.

 

[ScottA]

I'll stand by what I said because its what God said Isa42:21 He will sort it all out soon enough.

As for Isaiah 42:21, you have misunderstood the meaning of "magnify."

To "Magnify" the law and commandments does not mean to make more of them worldly, but heavenly. Did you not understand Jesus' lesson on "which is greater" (Matthew 23:1-22)?

 

[LawofLove]

As for Isaiah 42:21, you have misunderstood the meaning of "magnify."

To "Magnify" the law and commandments does not mean to make more of them worldly, but heavenly. Did you not understand Jesus' lesson on "which is greater" (Matthew 23:16-22)?

It means what Jesus said it means by relating our thoughts to the commandments- thoughts of lust to thou shalt not murder, not just the act of murder but the heart of the matter where it starts, sin starts in the heart, if the heart is changed the actions change.

Mat 5:19 “Whoever therefore breaks one of the least of these commandments, and teaches men so, shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven; but whoever does and teaches them, he shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven
For I say to you, that unless your righteousness exceeds the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, you will by no means enter the kingdom of heaven
“You have heard that it was said to those of old, ‘You shall not murder, and whoever murders will be in danger of the judgment.’
But I say to you that whoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment. And whoever says to his brother, ‘Raca!’ shall be in danger of the council. But whoever says, ‘You fool!’ shall be in danger of hell fire
Therefore if you bring your gift to the altar, and there remember that your brother has something against you
leave your gift there before the altar, and go your way. First be reconciled to your brother, and then come and offer your gift
Agree with your adversary quickly, while you are on the way with him, lest your adversary deliver you to the judge, the judge hand you over to the officer, and you be thrown into prison
Assuredly, I say to you, you will by no means get out of there till you have paid the last penny
“You have heard that it was said to those of old, ‘You shall not commit adultery.’
But I say to you that whoever looks at a woman to lust for her has already committed adultery with her in his heart
If your right eye causes you to sin, pluck it out and cast it from you; for it is more profitable for you that one of your members perish, than for your whole body to be cast into hell
And if your right hand causes you to sin, cut it off and cast it from you; for it is more profitable for you that one of your members perish, than for your whole body to be cast into hell” — Matthew 5:19–30 (NKJV)

 

[PS95]

If you knew its OT that's being quoted you would know its not about changing something God said is unchangeable. Ecc3:14 Psa89:23 Mat5:18-19

It is not changed- it's has it's fulfillment in us. There is a difference.

I am SDA but not sure why that matters I like to stick with the Scriptures so hats what matters.

What denomination are you?

Oh, it matters. I will leave this here- I don't discuss this with SDA's- there is too much more going on than this.
I'm a Christian- only.

 

[LawofLove]

It is not changed- it's has it's fulfillment in us. There is a difference.

Oh, it matters. I will leave this here- I don't discuss this with SDA's- there is too much more going on than this.
I'm a Christian- only.

Take care, if you ever want to go through Hebrews 4 I am happy to discuss.