What exactly is ''resting'' on the Sabbath as to keeping it 'Holy'?

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Couldn't agree with you more. The time is coming soon when you will be put to the test on that. Whose authority are you submitted to? To whom does your heart belong? Do our lives really meet with God's approval, or are we mis-using God's own words to justify our reluctance to fully surrender?
Yep . is it the authority of men or of GOD .
AND HERES A CLUE .
if anyone is running to these govts , putting hope into them
whether left or whether right or donald J T RUMP .
THEN OOPSY they made a big ol POOPSY . their faith be IN MEN .
cause I KNOW THESE LEADERS DO NOTHING bUT lead us astary .
YEAH , if anyone is running to the EVERY JEW is automatically A CHILD OF GOD , AGAIN WRONG CAMP .
if anyone is running to the lets find common ground . AGAIN wrong again .
IF any is sitting in the judge not correct not lets just get along , WRONG again .
IF anyone is running to this interfaith . WRONG AGAIN that be of ANTI CHRIST and I DO MEAN ANTI CHRIST .
if anyone is coming to the conclusion we all catholic . WRONG again .
IF ANYONE is coming to the conclusion that all denominations are of GOD . YES WRONG AGAIN .
SHOW ME PROOF that a mormon follows the same GOD I DO bud . as if god began as a man and became GOD
AS IF lucifer and jesus were brothers .
AND that ain t even the half of it .
WHY when i warn against the ecumeincal false love intefaith do so many put me on ignore .
NOW i know YOU DONT do that . but i ask it for a good reason anyway .
WHY are so many looking for an end time huge revival
and when they see these revivals they say WOW GOD is at work , WHEN EVEN LGBTQ are allowed to speak and give testmonies .
WHAT KIND OF CONVERSION IS THAT BRAKELITE . WHEN UNREPENTANT SINNERS Get up
lead THESE REVIVALS . WHO ON EARTH , WHAT JESUS , DO you really think they all coming too . NOT GOD , AND NOT HIS CHRIST .
but man if i say one word about it , ITS OFF with your head hater .
 

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The Sabbath started before sin, before Israel, before Jew, before Moses, it started according to God's written Testimony Exo31:18 at Creation Exo20:11 made for mankind. Mar 2:27 Israel represented God's first church. The New Covenant is still made with Israel Jer 31:33 Heb8:10 but its not literal Rom9;6, its those with faith and we are still heir to the same promises- blessings or curses that came with the same law of God Exo20:6 Psa89:34 Rev14:12 established through faith Gal3:26-29. Faith does not void the law it establishes it. Rom3:31

Rom 3:31 Do we then make void the law through faith? Certainly not! On the contrary, we establish the law.

To say the Sabbath is not made for mankind Mat2:27 for everyone who loves the LORD and serves Him Isa56:6 and not one of God's commandments Exo20:6 Deut4:13 Exo20:1-17 when God said it is, is not something I can't reason with. If one wishes to make a case on the opposite of what God said that can be their choice. God said Remember- He wrote it He spoke it Exo20:8-11 Exo31:18 Deut4:13 its the work of God Exo32:16- man teaches to forget and depend on our own works of righteousness and not God's Psa119:172 Isa56:102. Its a matter of which voice is our authority. Whoever we obey is who we serve Rom6:16 and these choices are what determines the path we are on- the wide one or the narrow one. Mat7:13-14

To say the Sabbath is not for God's church - the Bible I read says something different.

Heb 12:23 to the general assembly and church of the firstborn who are registered in heaven, to God the Judge of all, to the spirits of just men made perfect,

Isa 66:22 “For as the new heavens and the new earth
Which I will make shall remain before Me,
” says the Lord,
“So shall your descendants and your name remain.
23 And it shall come to pass
That from one New Moon to another,
And from one Sabbath to another,
All flesh shall come to worship before Me,” says the Lord.

No wonder why we are called back to worship our Creator in the last days, because sadly many has followed those who changed God's times and laws Dan7:25 and fear man, not God.

Rev 14:7 saying with a loud voice, “Fear God and give glory to Him, for the hour of His judgment has come; and worship Him who made heaven and earth, the sea and springs of water.”
Exo20:11For in six days the Lord made the heavens and the earth, the sea, and all that is in them, and rested the seventh day. Therefore the Lord blessed the Sabbath day and hallowed it.

No wonder why the LORD gives us this sign


Eze 20:20 hallow My Sabbaths, and they will be a sign between Me and you, that you may know that I am the Lord your God.
 
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Couldn't agree with you more. The time is coming soon when you will be put to the test on that. Whose authority are you submitted to? To whom does your heart belong? Do our lives really meet with God's approval, or are we mis-using God's own words to justify our reluctance to fully surrender?
WE ALL about to be put the test .
GUESS what on earth is the world most dangerous religion of all
and is the religoin , is the love , is the means by which ALL OF THE DECIEVED can ag ree upon as b eing GOD and LOVE .
HELLO its inclusivsim . WEEP and HOWL cause i bet even you may have heard that word used in your camp .
ITS THE INCLUSIVE god . the one that says judge not , hey lets all find common ground .
AND BOY did its father know how to find things that ALL religions in part can teach .
THEN it turned around and used those basic concepts that ALL religions do cliam
TO imply THAT ALL religoins must be serving the same GOD . and folks BOUGHT IT TOO .
AS IF .
AS IF cliaming that one follows moses , abraham and the prophets MEAN they actually DO FOLLOW GOD .
HECK brakelite , EVEN THE JEWS claimed to follow MOSES , even claimed we are of abra ham .
BUT THEY denied JESUS AS THE CHRIST , THE SON OF GOD .
BUT today its all about a lie . A LIE braklite . I TELL US ALL A LIE .
because in every religoin even in and within the athiest is the concept of doing good to the poor .
And love .
ONLY PROBLEM IS , ITS NOT THE LOVE OF GOD , NOR JESUS THEY SERVE AT ALL .
BUT todays camp says , SHUT UP HATER AMIGO , SHUT UP , if they love they know GOD .
YET i say IF THEY LOVE they had LOVED CHRIST JESUS FIRST and foremost and NOT DENIED HIM AS THE SON OF GOD
NOT have said its okay if one believes not
NO man serves or knows or loves GOD if they LOVE NOT HIS CHRIST , NOT HIS WORDS . THAT IS A FACT .
SO show me where i am wrong NOW .
 

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Please forgive me if i ever spoke 'out-of-Place'

As you know, my wife and i love the Jewish people and the rabbis that come to our house.
Our prayer is that the lead rabbi, Asher, along with his wife Sarah come to know their MESSIAH.

Whatever day of the week people gather together to seek the LORD, is from God to them.
i have no say over that, nor do i seek to sway people away from gathering on saturday.

My only discussion here is that MESSIAH is SHILOH = as prophesied by Jacob in Genesis chapter 49

Shiloh was a place that was very special to them at that time = it speaks of MESSIAH

Shiloh means: "Peace and REST"

SHALOM
I have no intention also to impose anything on anyone, no worries, I remember about your friend Asher I will pray for a good outcome for him and His wife that they come to know Christ if it is God's will.

Yes interesting prophecies in Gen 49!

Blessings.
 

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I have no intention also to impose anything on anyone, no worries, I remember about your friend Asher I will pray for a good outcome for him and His wife that they come to know Christ if it is God's will.

Yes interesting prophecies in Gen 49!

Blessings.
We got a main war to focus on my friend . and it aint meats drinks and days .
ITS the ecumeincal harlot of intefaith and of false love .
That WHORE of all whores and HARLOT of all harlots has found her way into all places now .
BIBLE TIME for all . The faith of the sheep of this generation in even west ern socities is about to be tested
unlike what any of us has ever experienced or seen . Oh we have read about it and seen it in other countries .
BUTS ITS GOING VIRAL and WORLD WIDE . The climatic hour has come upon us all .
 

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Kia Ora Angelina.
Have you considered Acts 13? Have you considered that the reason no-one specifically "commanded" Gentiles to observe the Sabbath was because they were already doing so? See verses 14-44. If Gentile Christians weren't observing the Sabbath, or it wasn't the custom to do so, why did they ask Paul to repeat his Gospel message the following Sabbath, and not the next day, Sunday, when Gentile Christians were supposed to be meeting according to today's churches?

Kia ora @Brakelite . Yes, I have considered Acts 13, and I agree it shows Gentiles attending and hearing the gospel preached on the Sabbath alongside Jews. I do not dispute that Sabbath synagogue participation occurred regularly in the apostolic period.

Where I still see the distinction is between descriptive practice and explicit covenant obligation. Acts 13 clearly shows what happened historically, but I still do not see the apostles directly instructing Gentile believers that seventh-day observance was binding upon all nations under the new covenant in the same way as under Sinai.

So for me, the question remains not whether the Sabbath was present in apostolic life, but whether the New Testament explicitly establishes it as a universal covenant requirement for Gentile believers in Christ.
 

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Remember, I said it is all throughout the Gospel - the first thing you should do is read again Exodus 31:12-17
Keep in mind Genesis chapters 1- 3 as well

No one has ascended to heaven but He who came down from heaven, that is, the Son of Man who is in heaven. 14And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of Man be lifted up, 15that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have eternal life. 16For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life. 17For God did not send His Son into the world to condemn the world, but that the world through Him might be saved.

18He who believes in Him is not condemned; but he who does not believe is condemned already

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I had asked you to "Post the scriptures along with your claims."

Rather what you've given us above is another non sequitur, a lazy reply, weak sophistry.

For clarity, read Angelina's post directly above.

In the meantime, you have "thrown up a Hail Mary" with a careless mention of Exodus 31. Question: If the Sabbath was intended for all people, both Jew and Gentile, then why does Exodus 31:16-17 state that the Sabbath was a sign between God and the "children of Israel" instead of clarifying that it should be kept by all people of all nations for all time?

Question: If breaking the Sabbath was punishable by death in the Old Testament (Exodus 31:14 & 35:2), why is it not condemned in any way, shape, or form in the New Testament? Various passages in the New Testament list numerous types of sinners who will not inherit the kingdom (see 1 Corinthians 6:9-10, Galatians 5:19-21, 1 Timothy 1:9-10, and Revelation 21:8 & 22:15), but none of those lists ever mention Sabbath-breakers. Why is that?

Question: If the Sabbath was for Gentiles and Adam, Noah and Abraham, then why is the Sabbath a sign to remind their exodus from Egypt? Exodus 16:23,29; 31:13-18. Were either Abraham or Seventh-day Adventists ever slaves in Egypt?

In John chapter 3, the LORD reiterates Exodus 31:12-17 in His Fullness of Understanding
...and again another "Hail Mary." So again, let's look closer at this, your second cite.

In 1 John 3:4, sin is the transgression of the law. From this text Seventh-Day Adventists claim that all sins of every kind are a violation of the ten commandments which is the law here meant.

However:
1 - Does it say that this law is the ten commandments? No, nor any hint of such a thing. Here, as ever, sabbatarians assume the very thing to be proved.
2 - The decalogue was not given till Moses, 2500 years after the creation. Ex. 2O; Deut. 5:2-6. But sin existed all that time. The angels sinned, 2 Pet. 2:4; Adam sinned, Rom. 5:12; the Sodomites sinned, Gen. 13:13; "the Gentiles which have not the law," Rom. 2:12-14, sinned; hence sin is something more than a violation of the decalogue. A neglect to do good is sin, James 4:17, but that would not violate the decalogue. Unbelief is sin, Rom. 14:23, but that is no transgression of the decalogue. So, many are damned because they neglected to feed the hungry, give drink to the thirsty, take in the stranger, clothe the naked, or visit the sick, Matt. 25:41-43, none of which are mentioned in the decalogue. John says, "All unrighteousness (unrightness, wrong) is sin." 1 John 5:17. There are scores of wrongs which the decalogue does not notice at all.
3 - The decalogue ended at the cross, 2 Cor. 3:7; Rom. 10:4, so it cannot condemn sin now.
4 - In the original of 1 John 3:4, the word law does not occur at all. Thus: "Sin is lawlessness," Revised Version. "Sin is iniquity," Diaglott. "All sin is iniquity," Syriac. "Sin is wickedness," Sawyer's Translation. "Sin is the lawlessness," literal Greek. This is the correct idea. So a correct translation entirely spoils this text for sabbatarians/Adventists. It simply affirms that all sin is iniquity, wickedness or lawlessness, a disregard of law, without any necessary reference to the decalogue.

Or, are you referring to 1 John 3:22? Well, it's "The Ten Commandments" again. The same old assumption again, viz., that "the commandments" are always the ten commandments. But the next verse explodes this hobby by naming what is meant: "And this is his commandment, That we should believe on the name of his Son Jesus Christ, and love one another, as he gave us commandment." This is not the decalogue at all.
 
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Thoughts -

. Jesus was a Jew under the Law, we are not.

. Matt 15:24 He answered, “I was sent only to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.”
 

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I had asked you to "Post the scriptures along with your claims."

Rather what you've given us above is another non sequitur, a lazy reply, weak sophistry.

For clarity, read Angelina's post directly above.

In the meantime, you have "thrown up a Hail Mary" with a careless mention of Exodus 31. Question: If the Sabbath was intended for all people, both Jew and Gentile, then why does Exodus 31:16-17 state that the Sabbath was a sign between God and the "children of Israel" instead of clarifying that it should be kept by all people of all nations for all time?

Question: If breaking the Sabbath was punishable by death in the Old Testament (Exodus 31:14 & 35:2), why is it not condemned in any way, shape, or form in the New Testament? Various passages in the New Testament list numerous types of sinners who will not inherit the kingdom (see 1 Corinthians 6:9-10, Galatians 5:19-21, 1 Timothy 1:9-10, and Revelation 21:8 & 22:15), but none of those lists ever mention Sabbath-breakers. Why is that?

Question: If the Sabbath was for Gentiles and Adam, Noah and Abraham, then why is the Sabbath a sign to remind their exodus from Egypt? Exodus 16:23,29; 31:13-18. Were either Abraham or Seventh-day Adventists ever slaves in Egypt?


...and again another "Hail Mary." So again, let's look closer at this, your second cite.

In 1 John 3:4, sin is the transgression of the law. From this text Seventh-Day Adventists claim that all sins of every kind are a violation of the ten commandments which is the law here meant.

However:
1 - Does it say that this law is the ten commandments? No, nor any hint of such a thing. Here, as ever, sabbatarians assume the very thing to be proved.
2 - The decalogue was not given till Moses, 2500 years after the creation. Ex. 2O; Deut. 5:2-6. But sin existed all that time. The angels sinned, 2 Pet. 2:4; Adam sinned, Rom. 5:12; the Sodomites sinned, Gen. 13:13; "the Gentiles which have not the law," Rom. 2:12-14, sinned; hence sin is something more than a violation of the decalogue. A neglect to do good is sin, James 4:17, but that would not violate the decalogue. Unbelief is sin, Rom. 14:23, but that is no transgression of the decalogue. So, many are damned because they neglected to feed the hungry, give drink to the thirsty, take in the stranger, clothe the naked, or visit the sick, Matt. 25:41-43, none of which are mentioned in the decalogue. John says, "All unrighteousness (unrightness, wrong) is sin." 1 John 5:17. There are scores of wrongs which the decalogue does not notice at all.
3 - The decalogue ended at the cross, 2 Cor. 3:7; Rom. 10:4, so it cannot condemn sin now.
4 - In the original of 1 John 3:4, the word law does not occur at all. Thus: "Sin is lawlessness," Revised Version. "Sin is iniquity," Diaglott. "All sin is iniquity," Syriac. "Sin is wickedness," Sawyer's Translation. "Sin is the lawlessness," literal Greek. This is the correct idea. So a correct translation entirely spoils this text for sabbatarians/Adventists. It simply affirms that all sin is iniquity, wickedness or lawlessness, a disregard of law, without any necessary reference to the decalogue.

Or, are you referring to 1 John 3:22? Well, it's "The Ten Commandments" again. The same old assumption again, viz., that "the commandments" are always the ten commandments. But the next verse explodes this hobby by naming what is meant: "And this is his commandment, That we should believe on the name of his Son Jesus Christ, and love one another, as he gave us commandment." This is not the decalogue at all.

Please brothers, let us not judge one another, but speak with one another in love and discuss the matter with gentleness and wisdom. If there is a point of disagreement, let us reason together in peace and seek the truth with humble hearts. @David in NJ certainly deserves to be treated as a child of God, just as all who believe in Christ are called to love one another as brethren.
 
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I had asked you to "Post the scriptures along with your claims."

Rather what you've given us above is another non sequitur, a lazy reply, weak sophistry.

For clarity, read Angelina's post directly above.

In the meantime, you have "thrown up a Hail Mary" with a careless mention of Exodus 31. Question: If the Sabbath was intended for all people, both Jew and Gentile, then why does Exodus 31:16-17 state that the Sabbath was a sign between God and the "children of Israel" instead of clarifying that it should be kept by all people of all nations for all time?

Question: If breaking the Sabbath was punishable by death in the Old Testament (Exodus 31:14 & 35:2), why is it not condemned in any way, shape, or form in the New Testament? Various passages in the New Testament list numerous types of sinners who will not inherit the kingdom (see 1 Corinthians 6:9-10, Galatians 5:19-21, 1 Timothy 1:9-10, and Revelation 21:8 & 22:15), but none of those lists ever mention Sabbath-breakers. Why is that?

Question: If the Sabbath was for Gentiles and Adam, Noah and Abraham, then why is the Sabbath a sign to remind their exodus from Egypt? Exodus 16:23,29; 31:13-18. Were either Abraham or Seventh-day Adventists ever slaves in Egypt?


...and again another "Hail Mary." So again, let's look closer at this, your second cite.

In 1 John 3:4, sin is the transgression of the law. From this text Seventh-Day Adventists claim that all sins of every kind are a violation of the ten commandments which is the law here meant.

However:
1 - Does it say that this law is the ten commandments? No, nor any hint of such a thing. Here, as ever, sabbatarians assume the very thing to be proved.
2 - The decalogue was not given till Moses, 2500 years after the creation. Ex. 2O; Deut. 5:2-6. But sin existed all that time. The angels sinned, 2 Pet. 2:4; Adam sinned, Rom. 5:12; the Sodomites sinned, Gen. 13:13; "the Gentiles which have not the law," Rom. 2:12-14, sinned; hence sin is something more than a violation of the decalogue. A neglect to do good is sin, James 4:17, but that would not violate the decalogue. Unbelief is sin, Rom. 14:23, but that is no transgression of the decalogue. So, many are damned because they neglected to feed the hungry, give drink to the thirsty, take in the stranger, clothe the naked, or visit the sick, Matt. 25:41-43, none of which are mentioned in the decalogue. John says, "All unrighteousness (unrightness, wrong) is sin." 1 John 5:17. There are scores of wrongs which the decalogue does not notice at all.
3 - The decalogue ended at the cross, 2 Cor. 3:7; Rom. 10:4, so it cannot condemn sin now.
4 - In the original of 1 John 3:4, the word law does not occur at all. Thus: "Sin is lawlessness," Revised Version. "Sin is iniquity," Diaglott. "All sin is iniquity," Syriac. "Sin is wickedness," Sawyer's Translation. "Sin is the lawlessness," literal Greek. This is the correct idea. So a correct translation entirely spoils this text for sabbatarians/Adventists. It simply affirms that all sin is iniquity, wickedness or lawlessness, a disregard of law, without any necessary reference to the decalogue.

Or, are you referring to 1 John 3:22? Well, it's "The Ten Commandments" again. The same old assumption again, viz., that "the commandments" are always the ten commandments. But the next verse explodes this hobby by naming what is meant: "And this is his commandment, That we should believe on the name of his Son Jesus Christ, and love one another, as he gave us commandment." This is not the decalogue at all.
Ah, the intellectual reliance of man........
The intellect of man can never SEE the Mysteries of Truth throughout the Holy Scriptures = for GOD hid them!!!

Since God has not revealed to you Genesis, you are unable to SEE beyond the surface of John chapters 1 thru 3 and beyond.

As such, you should make absolutely sure that on saturday you:
"Keep the Sabbath, for it is holy to you. Anyone who profanes it must surely be put to death.
Whoever does any work on that day must be cut off from among his people.
For six days work may be done, but the seventh day is a Sabbath of complete rest, holy to the LORD.
Whoever does any work on the Sabbath day must surely be put to death."

As for those of us who by Grace and the Holy Spirit SEE
At that time Jesus declared, “I praise You, Father, Lord of heaven and earth,
because You have hidden these things from the wise and learned, and revealed them to little children.
Yes, Father, for this was well-pleasing in Your sight.


FYI - Angelina has not said anything that I have not already covered - to which i am grateful for her input for the sake of those bound under SDA!
 
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Thoughts -

. Jesus was a Jew under the Law, we are not.

. Matt 15:24 He answered, “I was sent only to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.”
This is true.
If we base our deduction from this passage, are Gentiles truly included amongst the Jews?
Perhaps salvation is by a 'lesser' gospel for the gentile dogs?

Something else to dwell on:
Since Jesus was a Jew and He was sent to the lost sheep of the house of Israel why then did Jesus contradict Himself???

John 3:14 - 17
Just as Moses lifted up the snake in the wilderness, so the Son of Man must be lifted up, that everyone who believes in Him may have eternal life.
For God so loved the world that He gave His one and only Son, that everyone who believes in Him shall not perish but have eternal life.
For God did not send His Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through Him.

Did Jesus exclude Gentiles from "the world"?
Was His reference to "the world" only the geographical land of Israel?
Was His reference to "the world" only to the Jews in Israel?
Who are the "everyone who believes"? - Jews only?

How will we know the actual answers to these questions???

@Angelina
 

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Gentiles are fully included in salvation through Christ. John 3:16 makes that beautifully clear, as do many other passages throughout the New Testament.

My earlier point was not that Gentiles are excluded from salvation or somehow receive a lesser gospel.

My point was specifically about how covenant obligations are applied to Gentile believers under the New Testament and apostolic teaching.

Those are two separate discussions, which is why I do not think Matthew 15:24 contradicts John 3:16. Jesus’ earthly ministry began within Israel, yet the gospel ultimately extended to all nations through Him.
 
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Kia ora @Brakelite . Yes, I have considered Acts 13, and I agree it shows Gentiles attending and hearing the gospel preached on the Sabbath alongside Jews. I do not dispute that Sabbath synagogue participation occurred regularly in the apostolic period.

Where I still see the distinction is between descriptive practice and explicit covenant obligation. Acts 13 clearly shows what happened historically, but I still do not see the apostles directly instructing Gentile believers that seventh-day observance was binding upon all nations under the new covenant in the same way as under Sinai.

So for me, the question remains not whether the Sabbath was present in apostolic life, but whether the New Testament explicitly establishes it as a universal covenant requirement for Gentile believers in Christ.
We can boil it down to a simple idea...was the day still holy, sacred, blessed and sanctified after the cross?
 

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Who are the lost sheep of Israel today?

Ignatius of Antioch, a disciple of John the apostle :​

If, therefore, those who were brought up in the ancient order of things have come to the possession of a new hope, no longer observing the Sabbath, but living in the observance of the Lord’s Day, on which also our life has sprung up again by Him and by His death—whom some deny, by which mystery we have obtained faith, and therefore endure, that we may be found the disciples of Jesus Christ, our only Master

Closer to the Fire you can't get it.

And I know I haven't answered your question :Broadly:
 
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We can boil it down to a simple idea...was the day still holy, sacred, blessed and sanctified after the cross?
I believe the Sabbath remains part of Scripture’s sacred history and revelation, and I do not deny that God sanctified the seventh day.

Where I still see the distinction is between something being holy or spiritually significant and something being explicitly imposed as a universal covenant obligation upon Gentile believers under the New Testament.

For example, many things in the Old Testament remain meaningful and fulfilled in Christ without necessarily functioning in the identical covenant form under the new covenant.

So for me, the central question is still: how Christ and the apostles applied covenant obligation to the church, particularly regarding Gentile believers. That is the area where I do not yet see an explicit apostolic requirement binding seventh-day observance upon all believers.
 
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Thoughts -

. Jesus was a Jew under the Law, we are not.

. Matt 15:24 He answered, “I was sent only to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.”
@David in NJ Acts 13:44 And the next sabbath day came almost the whole city together to hear the word of God. (Including Gentiles)
45 But when the Jews saw the multitudes, they were filled with envy, and spake against those things which were spoken by Paul, contradicting and blaspheming.
46 Then Paul and Barnabas waxed bold, and said, It was necessary that the word of God should first have been spoken to you: but seeing ye put it from you, and judge yourselves unworthy of everlasting life, lo, we turn to the Gentiles.

Why was it necessary for Paul and his associates to first preach to Israel? Was that same necessity applicable to Jesus also? I say yes, in order to fulfill prophecy.
Daniel 9:27 was being played out in real time. The 70 weeks must be completed. The final week, beginning from Christ's baptism in 27AD, comprised 3 and a half years of Christ ministering to Israel in person, and in the midst of the week the sacrifices and oblations ceased to be of any effect, because of Calvary. The last 3 and a half years were completed about the time of Stephen's martydom, 34 AD, and from that time forward, the gospel began to be presented to the Gentiles with intent and purpose, mainly through Paul, but also Thomas and others.
That's why it was necessary for Jesus and Paul to preach first to Israel in order to fulfil their obligations regarding Israel's probation. 70 weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city....Dan.9:24. That single passage in Daniel is the greatest and clearest prophetic proof of Jesus Messiahship. Which is why Jews today are forbidden to study it.
 

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I believe the Sabbath remains part of Scripture’s sacred history and revelation, and I do not deny that God sanctified the seventh day.

Where I still see the distinction is between something being holy or spiritually significant and something being explicitly imposed as a universal covenant obligation upon Gentile believers under the New Testament.

For example, many things in the Old Testament remain meaningful and fulfilled in Christ without necessarily functioning in the identical covenant form under the new covenant.

So for me, the central question is still: how Christ and the apostles applied covenant obligation to the church, particularly regarding Gentile believers. That is the area where I do not yet see an explicit apostolic requirement binding seventh-day observance upon all believers.
Do you have any evidence suggesting the law written upon the heart comprised only 9 commandments instead of 10?
 

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Ignatius of Antioch, a disciple of John the apostle :​

If, therefore, those who were brought up in the ancient order of things have come to the possession of a new hope, no longer observing the Sabbath, but living in the observance of the Lord’s Day, on which also our life has sprung up again by Him and by His death—whom some deny, by which mystery we have obtained faith, and therefore endure, that we may be found the disciples of Jesus Christ, our only Master

Closer to the Fire you can't get it.

And I know I haven't answered your question :Broadly:
You have show how early, (In John's day) the mystery of iniquity was sprouting.
 

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I believe the Sabbath remains part of Scripture’s sacred history and revelation, and I do not deny that God sanctified the seventh day.

Where I still see the distinction is between something being holy or spiritually significant and something being explicitly imposed as a universal covenant obligation upon Gentile believers under the New Testament.

For example, many things in the Old Testament remain meaningful and fulfilled in Christ without necessarily functioning in the identical covenant form under the new covenant.

So for me, the central question is still: how Christ and the apostles applied covenant obligation to the church, particularly regarding Gentile believers. That is the area where I do not yet see an explicit apostolic requirement binding seventh-day observance upon all believers.
You are questioning the continuation of something that God had ordained for 4000 years without clear evidence that continuity had changed. What reasons do you have for questioning, when the apostles obviously didn't?
 
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