What is an antichrist?

[Waiting on him]

The first paragraph of that links displays two giant falsehoods.

1. Attributed to the Protestant Reformation - "Civil and religious liberty were inaugurated".
What about the 150 years of persecution and murder of Catholics in England? Not much religious liberty there.
What about the penal laws against Catholics in Ireland and the near genocide of Catholics by Protestant Oliver Cromwell? Not much religious liberty there.

2. "Rome (meaning the Vatican) was shaken on her seven hills."
The Vatican does not sit on nay of the seven hills of Rome. Originally it was not even in Rome. Rome expanded around it.

Read on and there are more falsehoods. Its claims bear no relation to reality.

I was merely stating as to where these doctrines find their origin.

 

[Wrangler]

There's your answer. Everyone who attacks the Holy Trinity and the deity of Christ is an antichrist.

Projecting trinitarian doctrine onto unitarian text again.

I believe in God, the Father, and his chosen son, the man Jesus.

 

[Mungo]

I was merely stating as to where these doctrines find their origin.

Ah! You mean these false claims about the Catholic Church have their origins in ignorant Protestants.
OK. But perhaps you shouldn't be promulgating these lies.

 

[Waiting on him]

Ah! You mean these false claims about the Catholic Church have their origins in ignorant Protestants.
OK. But perhaps you shouldn't be promulgating these lies.

Ok, what you need to understand is just this..... Protestants are merely protesting Catholics. That’s right your kids. The most high doesn’t dwell in houses made with hands.


THINK ABOUT IT!

 

[Waiting on him]

When men assemble the objective is always to build towers, specifically in valleys. Jesus has come to tear down all towers and walls and fill those valleys to where all is level.

 

[Enoch111]

Projecting trinitarian doctrine onto unitarian text again.

The Bible does not teach Unitarianism. Which means that all Unitarians are antichrists.

 

[Wrangler]

The Bible does not teach Unitarianism.

The entire Bible teaches 1 God, not 3. See the Sh’ma at Deutoronomy 6:4 and Isaiah 45:5 and 1C.

Which means that all Unitarians are antichrists.

Such reductionist thinking. Not violating the 1C does not make one an anti-Christ

 

[robert derrick]

2 Thessalonians 2:4 KJV
[4] Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.
This seems to be the go to verse for all the one man Antichrist promoters.

The Apostle Paul Spent the majority of his ministry revealing to the body that we are the temple. He himself was even present at the stoning of Steven after he had said to the religious leaders that the most high doesn’t dwell in houses made with hands.

I cannot see Paul at this time in his life having any reverence for that structure that was standing there in Israel.

"I cannot see Paul at this time in his life having any reverence for that structure that was standing there in Israel."

Nor God.

Rev 11: We are told that the temple of God will be the latest temple built by Jews in Jerusalem to renew their worship and bloody sacrifices according to Old Testament law. The same people who would do as their fathers who killed the prophets and the Son. In fact they will do so with at least two witnesses, that will prophecy in similitude to Old Testament powers.

And this 'temple' built by bloody hands and reprobate hearts, worshipping in a false religion called the Jews' religion, will be called by Scripture: the temple of God?

No way. The only temple of God today and forever, other than the body of Christ, would be built by God Himself and will be seen opened in heaven (11:19). God is in His temple in heaven, which is His temple, and the earth His footstool. The outer court of the temple of God is now earth, and it is the 'nations' that trample it, which includes that of the Jews.

There is no more Jew or Gentile, but only the nations and people and tribes of the earth. Since the Jews' killed the One sent by God to fulfill His promise to Abraham's seed, that promise is now with the seed of faith only. The natural seed of Jacob's tribes, who still call themselves Jews, are cut off from God just as every other unbeliever on earth. And they can be grafted in again, just like any other that repents and believes Jesus. In fact, God goes so far as to refuse to acknowledge they are even Jews anymore. Jesus calls them liars, who say they are Jews and are not, because the only Jew before God is now circumcised of the heart, not of the flesh only. (Rom 2)(Rev 2)

The prophecies of the last days with God one last time turning to His own people natural Israel to repent has been accomplished in the coming of Jesus. He confirmed the promise to His own first (Rom 15), and His own received Him not (John 1), and now His own are only they that believe Him. There is no more one last time to come, because we have already been in that last time since the apostles (1 John 2).

The flesh and the natural seed of the flesh and the buildings and temples made with hands of flesh mean absolutely nothing to God anymore. It is all by Spirit and by grace and by faith from the heart in His Son Jesus.

People still want to insist another last last time is coming, when God will ignore all the other inhabitors of the earth, to turn to a people that He does not even know, and who no longer have any relationship with Abraham as his seed, which now is only that of promise and faith (Gal 4). Christians are now the only seed of Abraham honored by God. We are now the children of Isaac by promise, and the natural seed and blood are the children of the bondwoman Hagar. We are the Jews and Israel of God, and those without faith in Jesus, who would still call themselves 'Israel and Jew' are liars. The world may accept their title, not God. That nation in Palestine today called 'Israel', is just another nation among nations on earth, and they worship in a false state religion, called the Jews' religion.

 

[robert derrick]

The Bible does not teach Unitarianism. Which means that all Unitarians are antichrists.

Kaboom Say it like it is.

They certainly qualify. They may indeed have had faith from the heart in Jesus as Lord, but then departed from the doctrine of the apostles and went awhoring after another lord, they call 'jehovah'.

But they didn't just go their own way to be as unbelieving Jews today, who still look to the Lord God of Israel of the Old Covenant, whom they crucified. No, they still speak the name of Jesus and Christ with their lips only, while pushing a pagan construct upon Him as being created by 'jehovah', rather than begotten by God.

A created christ is a false christ.

They have denied the only Lord God and Savior, to turn His immortality into a 'blessing bestowed' by 'jehovah' for good works done on earth.

Their 'Jehovah' is as Zeus, and their false 'christ' is as Herakles...They are pagans posing as Christians and using the name of Jesus for effect, which affect is destructive to the faith of Jesus.

So yes, they fit the definition of 'antichrist'. And there be many of them still...

"They zealously affect you, but not well. I would they were even cut off which trouble you." (Gal 4 & 5)

 

[Wrangler]

A created christ is a false christ.

Agreed. Creating the myth that the child is the parent sure is a created falsehood.

To your way of thinking, the only way not to be an antichrist is to violate the 1C. Think about that.

 

[robert derrick]

"To your way of thinking, the only way not to be an antichrist is to violate the 1C. Think about that."

Since I don't know what a 1C is, much less how to violate it, I won't think about it.

If Jesus Christ is a created being, then he is a created christ, and a false christ.

The true God was begotten of God, not created by God. When He, God the Word was begotten on earth, He then became known as the Son of God, and called Jesus Christ.

He was from everlasting, and was with God to create all things by Him, and was begotten into the world in the fulness of time to make all sinners a new creature in Him.

 

[robert derrick]

"And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea..." (Rev 13:1)

"And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth...And he exerciseth all the power of the first beast before him." (13:11-12)

That first beast is head of the first false religion on earth to ever come out of the true religion of God.

The Jews' Religion. (Gal 1)

 

[robert derrick]

"I believe in God, the Father, and his chosen son, the man Jesus."

They just can never quite manage to quote Scripture right:

The man Christ Jesus. (1 Tim 2)

Not by accident folks. Not by accident.

 

[robert derrick]

"I believe in God, the Father, and his chosen son, the man Jesus."

Pilate believed He was a man too. Even a good man.

Which is why they cannot worship Jesus as the Christ, because He is only a man.

A good man, yes, with many good works, which is why 'Jehovah' resurrected him and 'blessed' him with an immortal nature. To sit on a litterl throne that the Big Jehovah, right beside his brother by another mother Herakles.

Hello pagan.

 

[robert derrick]

Ok, what you need to understand is just this..... Protestants are merely protesting Catholics. That’s right your kids. The most high doesn’t dwell in houses made with hands.


THINK ABOUT IT!

Calm down grasshopper. Don't let him get under your skin.

He's just touchy is all.