What is the Bible about?

[JLG]

4)

- Then we arrive at chapter 6 !

- And guess what : the angels who rebelled Yah.weh descended on earth and got as many wives as they wanted !

- And guess what : Yah.weh decided to destroy human society !

- And guess what : Noah and his sons and their wives were saved !

- And guess what : each one had only one wife !

- then we are told about Abraham and Lot !

- And guess what : they had only one wife !

- Then Sarah gave her servant to Abraham so he could have a child and a descendant !

- Then Agar got a boy !

- And guess what :

- look at Genesis 16:4 :

But when [Hagar] realized
וַתֵּ֙רֶא֙ (wat·tê·re)
Conjunctive waw | Verb - Qal - Consecutive imperfect - third person feminine singular
Strong's 7200: To see

that
כִּ֣י (kî)
Conjunction
Strong's 3588: A relative conjunction

she was pregnant,
הָרָ֔תָה (hā·rā·ṯāh)
Verb - Qal - Perfect - third person feminine singular
Strong's 2029: To conceive, become pregnant

she began to despise
וַתֵּקַ֥ל (wat·tê·qal)
Conjunctive waw | Verb - Qal - Consecutive imperfect - third person feminine singular
Strong's 7043: To be slight, swift or trifling

her mistress.
גְּבִרְתָּ֖הּ (gə·ḇir·tāh)
Noun - feminine singular construct | third person feminine singular



- Does it remind you of something ?

 

[JLG]

5)

- In Genesis 17, we are told Abraham is 99 !

- He still has only one wife !

- In chapter 21, he is 100 when he gets Isaac !

- In the same chapter, Hagar’s son keeps mocking Isaac !

- Finally, Hagar and her son must leave !

- In chapter 22, we are told about Abraham’s brother having a concubine !

- Now guess what : Isaac got one wife rebekah !

- After Sarah’s death, Abraham got another wife Keturah !

- Then in Genesis 25:6, we are told about concubines !

- In chapter 26, we are told that Esau got two wives but he wasn’t walking with Yah.weh !

- They were foreign women and they brought trouble to Isaac and Rebekah !

- Then in chapter 29, Jacob got two wives but he was misled by his father-in-law !

- But Jacob loved more Rachel than Leah !

- So Yah.weh gave children to Leah but Rachel stayed barren !

- Then in chapter 30 , Rachel became jealous of Leah !

- Then both Rachel and Leah gave their servants to Abraham to get children !

- In chapter 41, we are told about Joseph !

- And guess what : he had only one wife !

- Thus the book of Genesis is quite clear : the faithfulservants of Yah.weh had only one wife !

 

[JLG]

Somebody says :

I don't think it "cleary" shows anything of the sort. Many men in the Old Testament who were blessed by God had multiple wives, and committed adultery as well.

One clear example is King David. He was "immoral" but was clearly blessed by God.

 

[JLG]

Somebody says :



Since Abraham produced a child by his servant, he committed adultery. And he was blessed by God and became the father of many nations.

Polygamy was practiced extensively during the OT era. Jacob, a.k.a. Israel, had multiple wives (as did Esau, Gideon). Look at David(!) and Solomon ; they both had multiple wives, yet they were clearly blessed by God and built His temple.

So your claim that "the faithfulservants of Yah.weh had only one wife !" [sic] is simply untrue.

 

[JLG]

1)

- Apparently, you only read part of David’s life !

- he made a bad end !

- Yah .weh tolerated !, nothing more !

- And he took Bath-Sheba and killed her husband !

- You should read again 2 Samuel 12 !

- He was condemned !

- He was going to be in trouble!

- And Yah.weh would give his wives to another man !

- Andv everybody in Israel would see it !

- And Amnon had sex with his sister Tamar!

- Then he started hating her !

- On time, Absalom killed Amnon !

- Then Absalom organized a conspiracy against David !

- David ran away and left Jerusalem !

- Then Absalom has sex with the ten concubines David left in Jerusalem !

- Then David must flee continuously !

- Absalom is defeated and killed !

 

[JLG]

2)

- Same for Solomon !

- In 1 Kings chapter 11, we are told that Solomon loved many foreign women against Yah.weh’s will and according to what Yah.weh had told Israel not to do !

- And he had 700 wives and 300 concubines !

- And his wives gradually inclined his heart to follow other gods !

- And he did what was bad in the eyes of Yah.weh !

- And Yah.weh became furious at Solomon !

- Thus Yah.weh divided Israel in two parts !

- But because of David, he didn’t do it during Solomon’s life and he left Judah in the hands of the house of Solomon !

 

[JLG]

3)

- Yah.weh permitted Abraham to have a child with Hagar !

- But it was only to have descendants because Sarah was barren !

- And Abraham’s heir was Isaac, Sarah’s son !

- When Abraham married a second time after Sarah’s death, it was to have more children !

- It was a necessity to have many choldren for survival especially taking into account their conditions of living !

- Moreover, it was easy for women to die when giving birth !

 

[JLG]

4)

- Once again, Jacob was to have only one wife !

- But he was tricked by his father-in-law !

- And then his two wives gave him their servants to get more children to assure offspring !

 

[JLG]

5)

- In Matthew chapter 19, Jesus says exactly the same !

- He repeats Yah.weh’s commandment about man and woman becoming one flesh !

- And in verse 6 he adds :

Therefore
οὖν (oun)
Conjunction
Strong's 3767: Therefore, then. Apparently a primary word; certainly, or accordingly.

what
ὃ (ho)
Personal / Relative Pronoun - Accusative Neuter Singular
Strong's 3739: Who, which, what, that.

God
Θεὸς (Theos)
Noun - Nominative Masculine Singular
Strong's 2316: A deity, especially the supreme Divinity; figuratively, a magistrate; by Hebraism, very.

has joined together,
συνέζευξεν (synezeuxen)
Verb - Aorist Indicative Active - 3rd Person Singular
Strong's 4801: To yoke together, unite (as man and wife). From sun and the base of zeugos; to yoke together, i.e. conjoin.

[let] man
ἄνθρωπος (anthrōpos)
Noun - Nominative Masculine Singular
Strong's 444: A man, one of the human race. From aner and ops; man-faced, i.e. A human being.

not
μὴ (mē)
Adverb
Strong's 3361: Not, lest. A primary particle of qualified negation; not, lest; also (whereas ou expects an affirmative one) whether.

separate.”
χωριζέτω (chōrizetō)
Verb - Present Imperative Active - 3rd Person Singular
Strong's 5563: From chora; to place room between, i.e. Part; reflexively, to go away.

- Then about the certificate of repudiation, he adds :

Jesus answered,
Λέγει (Legei)
Verb - Present Indicative Active - 3rd Person Singular
Strong's 3004: (a) I say, speak; I mean, mention, tell, (b) I call, name, especially in the pass., (c) I tell, command.

“[It was] because of
πρὸς (pros)
Preposition
Strong's 4314: To, towards, with. A strengthened form of pro; a preposition of direction; forward to, i.e. Toward.

your
ὑμῶν (hymōn)
Personal / Possessive Pronoun - Genitive 2nd Person Plural
Strong's 4771: You. The person pronoun of the second person singular; thou.

hardness of heart
σκληροκαρδίαν (sklērokardian)
Noun - Accusative Feminine Singular
Strong's 4641: Feminine of a compound of skleros and kardia; hard-heartedness, i.e., destitution of perception.

[that] Moses
Μωϋσῆς (Mōusēs)
Noun - Nominative Masculine Singular
Strong's 3475: Or Moses, or Mouses of Hebrew origin; Moseus, Moses, or Mouses, the Hebrew lawgiver.

permitted
ἐπέτρεψεν (epetrepsen)
Verb - Aorist Indicative Active - 3rd Person Singular
Strong's 2010: To turn to, commit, entrust; I allow, yield, permit. From epi and the base of trope; to turn over, i.e. Allow.

you
ὑμῖν (hymin)
Personal / Possessive Pronoun - Dative 2nd Person Plural
Strong's 4771: You. The person pronoun of the second person singular; thou.

to divorce
ἀπολῦσαι (apolysai)
Verb - Aorist Infinitive Active
Strong's 630: From apo and luo; to free fully, i.e. relieve, release, dismiss, or let die, pardon or divorce.

your
ὑμῶν (hymōn)
Personal / Possessive Pronoun - Genitive 2nd Person Plural
Strong's 4771: You. The person pronoun of the second person singular; thou.

wives;
γυναῖκας (gynaikas)
Noun - Accusative Feminine Plural
Strong's 1135: A woman, wife, my lady. Probably from the base of ginomai; a woman; specially, a wife.

but
δὲ (de)
Conjunction
Strong's 1161: A primary particle; but, and, etc.

[it] was
γέγονεν (gegonen)
Verb - Perfect Indicative Active - 3rd Person Singular
Strong's 1096: A prolongation and middle voice form of a primary verb; to cause to be, i.e. to become, used with great latitude.

not
οὐ (ou)
Adverb
Strong's 3756: No, not. Also ouk, and ouch a primary word; the absolute negative adverb; no or not.

this way
οὕτως (houtōs)
Adverb
Strong's 3779: Thus, so, in this manner. Or (referring to what precedes or follows).

from
ἀπ’ (ap’)
Preposition
Strong's 575: From, away from. A primary particle; 'off, ' i.e. Away, in various senses.

[the] beginning.
ἀρχῆς (archēs)
Noun - Genitive Feminine Singular
Strong's 746: From archomai; a commencement, or chief.

 

[JLG]

6)

- The story of Israel tells us about a people who constantly opposes Yah.weh !

- He tolerated their misconduct !

- He could have destroyed them !

- Finally, they did a bad end !

- Everything he told them not to do, they did it !

 

[JLG]

Someone says :

I don't understand what you're trying to say when you write "If you think like today’s people, you will never understand the Bible!"

a) How do today's people think? That is an impossibly broad generalization.

b) Since even Biblical scholars disagree about the product of the art/science of translation, how does one decide (in your opinion) on the "best" translation.

Personally I prefer the NIV and the NRSVue translations. To me, they to have the best combination of converting the ancient languages' words and meaning into modern English with clarity of understanding..

 

[JLG]

- My answer :

- There is no better translation!

- The best one will always be the original!

- Since the majority of translations have taken away God's name, the majority are bad translations!

- In fact, they should not be called translations at all!

- Today's people are influenced by their languages written and spoken languages, they also think and act differently!

- In fact, they do everything differently!

- Just take the examples of today's people: they have different cultures and they seem to live at different times!

- A good example is the word yom in Hebrew, it is usually translated by day in English!

- But in hebrew it has different meaning depending on the context because the language used in the Bible is limited!

- The only possibility was to use the same word for different uses!

 

[JLG]

Somebody says :

The King James translation is NOT "the original". There were translations prior to 1611, including the Tyndale, the Geneva, and others. And there are translations afterwards that are better.

There is no basis for saying that "the majority of translations have taken away God's name, the majority are bad translations!" No translation has ever taken away God's name! None of them!

It is clear that you know nothing about Bible translations, the methodology behind them, the source languages, etc.

Clearly, unless you can come up with some facts, there is no point in discussing this with you.

 

[JLG]

My answer :



- Apparently, when I copy Biblehub, you don’t read it !

- In the second message (2), I posted Genesis 4:26 and it is written :



At that time
אָ֣ז (’āz)
Adverb
Strong's 227: At that time, place, therefore

[men] began
הוּחַ֔ל (hū·ḥal)
Verb - Hofal - Perfect - third person masculine singular
Strong's 2490: To bore, to wound, to dissolve, to profane, to break, to begin, to play

to call upon
לִקְרֹ֖א (liq·rō)
Preposition-l | Verb - Qal - Infinitive construct
Strong's 7121: To call, proclaim, read

the name
בְּשֵׁ֥ם (bə·šêm)
Preposition-b | Noun - masculine singular construct
Strong's 8034: A name

of the LORD.
יְהוָֽה׃ (Yah·weh)
Noun - proper - masculine singular
Strong's 3068: LORD -- the proper name of the God of Israel



- And it is everywhere in Biblehub



- the name of the LORD (Yah.weh) – the proper name of the God of Israel !



- There is nothing to discuss !

 

[JLG]

Somebody says :

Since you have no idea what you're talking about, I agree that there is nothing to discuss. YHWH is not God's name! It is the tetragrammaton representing "I am that I am". It was/is never meant to be pronounced.

I will repeat...

The King James translation is NOT "the original". There were translations prior to 1611, including the Tyndale, the Geneva, and others. And there are translations afterwards that are better.

There is no basis for saying that "the majority of translations have taken away God's name, the majority are bad translations!" No translation has ever taken away God's name!

End of discussing this with you!

 

[JLG]

- That’s a perfect ignorance of the first part of the Bible !

- It’s the usual opposition of Judaism against Yah.weh !

- Man’s tradition against Yah.weh’s word !

- It’s the usual nonsense translation of God’s name !

- He is the God of the promise or of the promises !

- He kept his promise and he will keep his promise !

- That’s the total negation of Exodus chapter 3 !

- Exodus 3:6

Then He said,
וַיֹּ֗אמֶר (way·yō·mer)
Conjunctive waw | Verb - Qal - Consecutive imperfect - third person masculine singular
Strong's 559: To utter, say

“I
אָנֹכִי֙ (’ā·nō·ḵî)
Pronoun - first person common singular
Strong's 595: I

am the God
אֱלֹהֵ֣י (’ĕ·lō·hê)
Noun - masculine plural construct
Strong's 430: gods -- the supreme God, magistrates, a superlative

of your father,
אָבִ֔יךָ (’ā·ḇî·ḵā)
Noun - masculine singular construct | second person masculine singular
Strong's 1: Father

the God
אֱלֹהֵ֧י (’ĕ·lō·hê)
Noun - masculine plural construct
Strong's 430: gods -- the supreme God, magistrates, a superlative

of Abraham,
אַבְרָהָ֛ם (’aḇ·rā·hām)
Noun - proper - masculine singular
Strong's 85: Abraham -- 'exalted father', the father of the Jewish nation

the God
אֱלֹהֵ֥י (’ĕ·lō·hê)
Noun - masculine plural construct
Strong's 430: gods -- the supreme God, magistrates, a superlative

of Isaac,
יִצְחָ֖ק (yiṣ·ḥāq)
Noun - proper - masculine singular
Strong's 3327: Isaac -- 'he laughs', son of Abraham and Sarah

and the God
וֵאלֹהֵ֣י (wê·lō·hê)
Conjunctive waw | Noun - masculine plural construct
Strong's 430: gods -- the supreme God, magistrates, a superlative

of Jacob.”
יַעֲקֹ֑ב (ya·‘ă·qōḇ)
Noun - proper - masculine singular
Strong's 3290: Jacob -- a son of Isaac, also his desc

 

[JLG]

- Exodus 3:13 :



Then Moses
מֹשֶׁ֜ה (mō·šeh)
Noun - proper - masculine singular
Strong's 4872: Moses -- a great Israelite leader, prophet and lawgiver

asked
וַיֹּ֨אמֶר (way·yō·mer)
Conjunctive waw | Verb - Qal - Consecutive imperfect - third person masculine singular
Strong's 559: To utter, say

God,
הָֽאֱלֹהִ֗ים (hā·’ĕ·lō·hîm)
Article | Noun - masculine plural
Strong's 430: gods -- the supreme God, magistrates, a superlative

“Suppose
הִנֵּ֨ה (hin·nêh)
Interjection
Strong's 2009: Lo! behold!

I
אָנֹכִ֣י (’ā·nō·ḵî)
Pronoun - first person common singular
Strong's 595: I

go
בָא֮ (ḇā)
Verb - Qal - Participle - masculine singular
Strong's 935: To come in, come, go in, go

to
אֶל־ (’el-)
Preposition
Strong's 413: Near, with, among, to

the Israelites
בְּנֵ֣י (bə·nê)
Noun - masculine plural construct
Strong's 1121: A son

and say
וְאָמַרְתִּ֣י (wə·’ā·mar·tî)
Conjunctive waw | Verb - Qal - Conjunctive perfect - first person common singular
Strong's 559: To utter, say

to them,
לָהֶ֔ם (lā·hem)
Preposition | third person masculine plural
Strong's Hebrew

‘The God
אֱלֹהֵ֥י (’ĕ·lō·hê)
Noun - masculine plural construct
Strong's 430: gods -- the supreme God, magistrates, a superlative

of your fathers
אֲבוֹתֵיכֶ֖ם (’ă·ḇō·w·ṯê·ḵem)
Noun - masculine plural construct | second person masculine plural
Strong's 1: Father

has sent
שְׁלָחַ֣נִי (šə·lā·ḥa·nî)
Verb - Qal - Perfect - third person masculine singular | first person common singular
Strong's 7971: To send away, for, out

me to you,’
אֶל־ (’el-)
Preposition
Strong's 413: Near, with, among, to

and they ask
וְאָֽמְרוּ־ (wə·’ā·mə·rū-)
Conjunctive waw | Verb - Qal - Conjunctive perfect - third person common plural
Strong's 559: To utter, say

me,
לִ֣י (lî)
Preposition | first person common singular
Strong's Hebrew

‘What
מַה־ (mah-)
Interrogative
Strong's 4100: What?, what!, indefinitely what

is His name?’
שְּׁמ֔וֹ (šə·mōw)
Noun - masculine singular construct | third person masculine singular
Strong's 8034: A name

What
מָ֥ה (māh)
Interrogative
Strong's 4100: What?, what!, indefinitely what

should I tell
אֹמַ֖ר (’ō·mar)
Verb - Qal - Imperfect - first person common singular
Strong's 559: To utter, say

them?”
אֲלֵהֶֽם׃ (’ă·lê·hem)
Preposition | third person masculine plural
Strong's 413: Near, with, among, to

 

[JLG]

Exodus 3:14



God
אֱלֹהִים֙ (’ĕ·lō·hîm)
Noun - masculine plural
Strong's 430: gods -- the supreme God, magistrates, a superlative

said
וַיֹּ֤אמֶר (way·yō·mer)
Conjunctive waw | Verb - Qal - Consecutive imperfect - third person masculine singular
Strong's 559: To utter, say

to
אֶל־ (’el-)
Preposition
Strong's 413: Near, with, among, to

Moses,
מֹשֶׁ֔ה (mō·šeh)
Noun - proper - masculine singular
Strong's 4872: Moses -- a great Israelite leader, prophet and lawgiver

“I AM
אֶֽהְיֶ֖ה (’eh·yeh)
Verb - Qal - Imperfect - first person common singular
Strong's 1961: To fall out, come to pass, become, be

WHO
אֲשֶׁ֣ר (’ă·šer)
Pronoun - relative
Strong's 834: Who, which, what, that, when, where, how, because, in order that

I AM.
אֶֽהְיֶ֑ה (’eh·yeh)
Verb - Qal - Imperfect - first person common singular
Strong's 1961: To fall out, come to pass, become, be

This is what
כֹּ֤ה (kōh)
Adverb
Strong's 3541: Like this, thus, here, now

you are to say
וַיֹּ֗אמֶר (way·yō·mer)
Conjunctive waw | Verb - Qal - Consecutive imperfect - third person masculine singular
Strong's 559: To utter, say

to the Israelites:
לִבְנֵ֣י (liḇ·nê)
Preposition-l | Noun - masculine plural construct
Strong's 1121: A son

‘I AM
אֶֽהְיֶ֖ה (’eh·yeh)
Verb - Qal - Imperfect - first person common singular
Strong's 1961: To fall out, come to pass, become, be

has sent me
שְׁלָחַ֥נִי (šə·lā·ḥa·nî)
Verb - Qal - Perfect - third person masculine singular | first person common singular
Strong's 7971: To send away, for, out

to you.’”
אֲלֵיכֶֽם׃ (’ă·lê·ḵem)
Preposition | second person masculine plural
Strong's 413: Near, with, among, to

 

[JLG]

Exodus 3:15 :



God
אֱלֹהִ֜ים (’ĕ·lō·hîm)
Noun - masculine plural
Strong's 430: gods -- the supreme God, magistrates, a superlative

also
ע֨וֹד (‘ō·wḏ)
Adverb
Strong's 5750: Iteration, continuance, again, repeatedly, still, more

told
וַיֹּאמֶר֩ (way·yō·mer)
Conjunctive waw | Verb - Qal - Consecutive imperfect - third person masculine singular
Strong's 559: To utter, say

Moses,
מֹשֶׁ֗ה (mō·šeh)
Noun - proper - masculine singular
Strong's 4872: Moses -- a great Israelite leader, prophet and lawgiver

“Say
תֹאמַר֮ (ṯō·mar)
Verb - Qal - Imperfect - second person masculine singular
Strong's 559: To utter, say

to
אֶל־ (’el-)
Preposition
Strong's 413: Near, with, among, to

the Israelites,
בְּנֵ֣י (bə·nê)
Noun - masculine plural construct
Strong's 1121: A son

‘The LORD,
יְהוָ֞ה (Yah·weh)
Noun - proper - masculine singular
Strong's 3068: LORD -- the proper name of the God of Israel

the God
אֱלֹהֵ֣י (’ĕ·lō·hê)
Noun - masculine plural construct
Strong's 430: gods -- the supreme God, magistrates, a superlative

of your fathers—
אֲבֹתֵיכֶ֗ם (’ă·ḇō·ṯê·ḵem)
Noun - masculine plural construct | second person masculine plural
Strong's 1: Father

the God
אֱלֹהֵ֨י (’ĕ·lō·hê)
Noun - masculine plural construct
Strong's 430: gods -- the supreme God, magistrates, a superlative

of Abraham,
אַבְרָהָ֜ם (’aḇ·rā·hām)
Noun - proper - masculine singular
Strong's 85: Abraham -- 'exalted father', the father of the Jewish nation

the God
אֱלֹהֵ֥י (’ĕ·lō·hê)
Noun - masculine plural construct
Strong's 430: gods -- the supreme God, magistrates, a superlative

of Isaac,
יִצְחָ֛ק (yiṣ·ḥāq)
Noun - proper - masculine singular
Strong's 3327: Isaac -- 'he laughs', son of Abraham and Sarah

and the God
וֵאלֹהֵ֥י (wê·lō·hê)
Conjunctive waw | Noun - masculine plural construct
Strong's 430: gods -- the supreme God, magistrates, a superlative

of Jacob—
יַעֲקֹ֖ב (ya·‘ă·qōḇ)
Noun - proper - masculine singular
Strong's 3290: Jacob -- a son of Isaac, also his desc

has sent
שְׁלָחַ֣נִי (šə·lā·ḥa·nî)
Verb - Qal - Perfect - third person masculine singular | first person common singular
Strong's 7971: To send away, for, out

me to you.’
אֲלֵיכֶ֑ם (’ă·lê·ḵem)
Preposition | second person masculine plural
Strong's 413: Near, with, among, to

This
זֶה־ (zeh-)
Pronoun - masculine singular
Strong's 2088: This, that

is My name
שְּׁמִ֣י (šə·mî)
Noun - masculine singular construct | first person common singular
Strong's 8034: A name

forever,
לְעֹלָ֔ם (lə·‘ō·lām)
Preposition-l | Noun - masculine singular
Strong's 5769: Concealed, eternity, frequentatively, always

and this
וְזֶ֥ה (wə·zeh)
Conjunctive waw | Pronoun - masculine singular
Strong's 2088: This, that

is how I am to be remembered
זִכְרִ֖י (ziḵ·rî)
Noun - masculine singular construct | first person common singular
Strong's 2143: A memento, recollection, commemoration

in every generation.
לְדֹ֥ר (lə·ḏōr)
Preposition-l | Noun - masculine singular
Strong's 1755: A revolution of time, an age, generation, a dwelling

YAH.WEH THE GOD OF YOUR FATHERS – THE GOD OF ABRAHAM, THE GOD OF ISAAC, AND THE GOD OF JACOB – HAS SENT ME TO YOU.

THIS IS MY NAME FOREVER, AND THIS IS HOW I AM TO BE REMEMBERED IN EVERY GENERATION IN EVERY GENERATION.



- WHAT A SHAME !

 

[JLG]

Someone says :



I understand your reply and what you are saying and do agree with most everything you said.

you quote a couple bible verses about

no divorcing……….. and staying faithfully married to a spouse…………..


and you mention details about sins of Lamech David, Solomon and mention how Jacob was tricked - you are mentioning Gideon also.
please realize that my post was not attempting to claim that any of the scriptures I presented are saying that divorce is something biblical nor that divorce - is ok with God

I never stated this, -

a husband and his multiple wives whom are truly { each one of them } indeed " united "…… each one of the wives are joined flesh, united with their husband. I also never attempted to say that that they should depart from the marriage when they consent to add another new wife.

Can you please explain why you would doubt my faith that divorce is against God’s plan ? or why you would doubt my faith that a man and his multiple wives are united / joined flesh. The Lord Jesus himself continually reminds us of the same unity / unification, in that himself and all of his bride composed of many multiple believers are all in unity / unification / united.

I can appreciate the examples that you had present, however, please recall that even Adam and Eve who were the only man and woman on earth and united in a monogamy relationship - they both, in their monogamy caused the downfall of the human race for the last 6000 years.

Adam and Eve were in a life where monogamy was at its most powerful and potent form and existed as the very best potential and perfect example possible, monogamy was then in its strongest and most powerful form that has ever existed. And still their decision to commit immoral acts, to sin, to defile their bodies and disobey God’s commandment was not prevented by the state and the situation , the status , and circumstance and condition of being monogamous.

1Co 6:16
η Or - ουκ not - οιδατε you knew - οτι that - ο he - κολλωμενος that is joined

τη the - πορνη harlot - εν IN - σωμα body, , - εστιν it is - εσονται them who

- γαρ for - φησιν it is said - οι that - δυο two - εις into - σαρκα flesh - μιαν united​

but then your translation says - 1Co 6:17 But he that is joined unto the Lord is one spirit.

Your statements resembles and truly reminds me of a conversation that I had with a Roman Catholic friend whom - my Catholic friend as defending the claim how that Mother Mary was sinless because she was born without the sex act, )* in other words Mary was conceived without the act of sexual intercourse - Immaculate Conception !

The doctrine of the Immaculate Conception teaches that Mary, the mother of Christ, was conceived without sin and her conception was immaculate and not through a sexual act.


Mary’s mother was a virgin. - - - - BUT, if not having sex will make an individual potentially closer to God - as Roman Catholics believe, this did not help Adam and Eve who were also not even born from a sexual conception.

Both Adam and Eve were neither born from a sexual act. They were created and given life and there was no sex, NO BIRTH involved in their creation. - Adam and Eve were Immaculately Created. Yet even though Adam and Eve both had never had sex themselves and they were not born or created from a sexual act _ and THEY WERE NOT EVEN BORN FROM A HUMAN WOMAN - _

this did not help them or prevent them from committing sin. this did nothing for them.

Don't you think that it is foolishness, This entire concept absolutely has no value or meaning in the BIble.

Yet, even though Adam and Eve both had never had sex and they were not born or created from a another human _ this did not help them or prevent them from committing sin. This did nothing for them, Cain who never had committed a sex act in his life, Cain had never married or had relationship with a woman, yet, he brutally murdered his own innocent brother.

SO……. when we look at characters such as - Adam, Joseph, Isaac and Noah or Elijah or Paul and Peter - and others who lived in an evil and defiled environment with a very narrow and limited potential for adding multiple Godly wives, they were only able to find a single women after waiting for many, many years. This is not necessarily due to the fact that they personally chose and self determined to live a monogamous marriage situation, God was not commanding this, but the fact is, these monogamous men were living in marriage situations were at this point of situation and circumstance and location and time and where they lived, the environment around them, they simply did not have opportunity to have multiple wives who were Godly women. They had to wait many years just to find one good and Godly woman to marry.

Noah had his sons at the age of 500 years old, everyone around Noah were wicked and perverted and evil - Joseph, he lived among pagan women and married the daughter of a pagan priest in Egypt,

we do not even know if Asenath his Egyptian wife stayed committed to Joseph - there is so much that is assumed and injected and inserted with not a single strand of Biblical, Scriptural foundation, it's truth seems to be determined to be truth - based upon how much we can distract and sway the conversation away from the evident facts that I present.

But I enjoy discussing these realities with you, thanks for your friendly reply.