What is the time of Jacob’s trouble?

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The "time of Jacob's trouble" comes from Jeremiah 30:7...
Jeremiah 30:7 King James Version (KJV)
Alas! for that day is great, so that none is like it: it is even the time of Jacob's trouble, but he shall be saved out of it.

In previous verses, God promised He would someday restore His people to their land....
Jeremiah 30:1-6 King James Version (KJV)
1 The word that came to Jeremiah from the Lord, saying,
2 Thus speaketh the Lord God of Israel, saying, Write thee all the words that I have spoken unto thee in a book.
3 For, lo, the days come, saith the Lord, that I will bring again the captivity of my people Israel and Judah, saith the Lord: and I will cause them to return to the land that I gave to their fathers, and they shall possess it.
4 And these are the words that the Lord spake concerning Israel and concerning Judah.
5 For thus saith the Lord; We have heard a voice of trembling, of fear, and not of peace.
6 Ask ye now, and see whether a man doth travail with child? wherefore do I see every man with his hands on his loins, as a woman in travail, and all faces are turned into paleness?

Despite a great time of distress the Lord would save them from it...
Jeremiah 30:8-11 King James Version (KJV)
8 For it shall come to pass in that day, saith the Lord of hosts, that I will break his yoke from off thy neck, and will burst thy bonds, and strangers shall no more serve themselves of him:
9 But they shall serve the Lord their God, and David their king, whom I will raise up unto them.
10 Therefore fear thou not, O my servant Jacob, saith the Lord; neither be dismayed, O Israel: for, lo, I will save thee from afar, and thy seed from the land of their captivity; and Jacob shall return, and shall be in rest, and be quiet, and none shall make him afraid.
11 For I am with thee, saith the Lord, to save thee: though I make a full end of all nations whither I have scattered thee, yet I will not make a full end of thee: but I will correct thee in measure, and will not leave thee altogether unpunished.

The imagery in the Jeremiah passage most closely resembles the predictions given by Jesus in Matthew 24....

Matthew 24:3-22 King James Version (KJV)
3 And as he sat upon the mount of Olives, the disciples came unto him privately, saying, Tell us, when shall these things be? and what shall be the sign of thy coming, and of the end of the world?
4 And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you.
5 For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many.
6 And ye shall hear of wars and rumours of wars: see that ye be not troubled: for all these things must come to pass, but the end is not yet.
7 For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: and there shall be famines, and pestilences, and earthquakes, in divers places.
8 All these are the beginning of sorrows.
9 Then shall they deliver you up to be afflicted, and shall kill you: and ye shall be hated of all nations for my name's sake.
10 And then shall many be offended, and shall betray one another, and shall hate one another.
11 And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many.
12 And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold.
13 But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.
14 And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.
15 When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand
16 Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains:
17 Let him which is on the housetop not come down to take any thing out of his house:
18 Neither let him which is in the field return back to take his clothes.
19 And woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck in those days!
20 But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the sabbath day:
21 For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.
22 And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened.

We see it in other verses...

Luke 21:22-27 King James Version (KJV)
22 For these be the days of vengeance, that all things which are written may be fulfilled.
23 But woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck, in those days! for there shall be great distress in the land, and wrath upon this people.
24 And they shall fall by the edge of the sword, and shall be led away captive into all nations: and Jerusalem shall be trodden down of the Gentiles, until the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled.
25 And there shall be signs in the sun, and in the moon, and in the stars; and upon the earth distress of nations, with perplexity; the sea and the waves roaring;
26 Men's hearts failing them for fear, and for looking after those things which are coming on the earth: for the powers of heaven shall be shaken.
27 And then shall they see the Son of man coming in a cloud with power and great glory.

1 Thessalonians 5:3 King James Version (KJV)
3 For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape.
 

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Before Israel became spiritually whole (shalem) He was called Jacob. And Jacob continues to represent Jews who are not yet spiritually whole.
 
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6 Ask ye now, and see whether a man doth travail with child? wherefore do I see every man with his hands on his loins, as a woman in travail, and all faces are turned into paleness?

15 When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand

21 For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.

26 Men's hearts failing them for fear, and for looking after those things which are coming on the earth: for the powers of heaven shall be shaken.

3 For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape.

If any man have an ear, let him hear...

Daniel 2:43
"And whereas thou sawest iron mixed with miry clay, they shall mingle themselves with the seed of men: but they shall not cleave one to another, even as iron is not mixed with clay"


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North.

Magnetic Pole.

Iron.

Electromagnetism.

High Technology.

Iron Kingdom.

Sons of God.

Daughters of Men.

Seeds being mingled.

Abomination in the Body Temple.

Adding unto the Word.

Word made flesh.

Giving life unto the Image.

Stars fall from Heaven.

Giants.

Language nobody understands.

As in the days of Noe.

Mark of the Beast.

Transhumanism.

Put it together people...

 
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I think we are seeing signs of it...
"The Dow had its worst point drop ever as stocks tumbled again"
The Dow had its worst point drop ever as stocks tumbled again - CNN
"Dow Plummets Nearly 3,000 Points As Virus Fears Spread
U.S. stocks drop sharply, while bond yields plummet again, despite Fed stimulus efforts"
Dow Plummets Nearly 3,000 Points As Virus Fears Spread
"Dow plunges nearly 3,000 points as Fed intervention does little to subdue Wall Street’s distress"
https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2020/03/16/stocks-markets-today-coronavirus/
 

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This is not good...
"Live updates: Coronavirus cases confirmed in all U.S. states as death toll rises and world faces long-term turmoil
All 50 states and the District of Columbia have confirmed cases of the coronavirus, after West Virginia announced its first patient Tuesday. More than 110 people infected with the virus have died in the United States, a toll that experts expect to rise quickly."...
Live updates: Coronavirus cases confirmed in all U.S. states as death toll rises and world faces long-term turmoil
 

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...death toll rises and world faces long-term turmoil...

Problem/Reaction/Solution

Just as 9/11 fundamentally changed the world, so will this. If this Bio-Weapon release turns out to be another Inside Job, then we can expect some radical changes to how our Health Care System works.

The key words you folks need to look out for, especially from your Doctor, is...

GENE THERAPY

Gene Therapy is basically a user friendly term for Transhumansim. It is DNA alteration which is the Mark of the Beast.

This is the promise that the Serpent made to Adam and Eve...

Genesis 3:5
"For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil"


Many, including Christians, will take the bait. In addition, expect these people to very hateful towards those of us that will not comply.

You will hear things like "What's wrong with healing people?". They will demonize Christians who refuse to change their God given Book of Life DNA.

This will play a major factor in the 'dividing' that Jesus warned about. Mandatory vaccinations will be the beginning and this Corona Bio-Weapon is the perfect Trojan Horse for that agenda.
 

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Back to the subject...

Jacob was called a Worm...

Isaiah 41:14
"Fear not, thou worm Jacob, and ye men of Israel; I will help thee, saith the LORD, and thy redeemer, the Holy One of Israel"


Understanding what the word 'Worm' in Scripture means is very crucial to understanding what is happening now with this Virus situation and the coming Mark of the Beast.

The word Worm is an allusion to Man's DNA. The same applies to the word Serpent.

The 'Seed of the Serpent' is Mankind's corrupt genetics. It's in all of us right now. Most Christian's egos are too big to receive this information. They are simply too full of themselves to understand just how far we are fallen.

Man's corrupt DNA is the Serpent that was defeated on the Cross...

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Jacob is a 'Worm' because he represents the Promised Seed (DNA) of Abraham and of Christ. Israel is the Code Word the Bible uses to name the Genetics of the Glorified Body.

From my research, I've concluded that it may be a Twelve Base construct as opposed to the Four Base we have now...

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Thus Jacob's Ladder is a picture of this Advanced DNA...

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Angels are ascending and descending on it because the advanced Genetics allows for that.

In other words, this Glorified DNA is what gives the Angels the ability to materialize and de-materialize into our reality using the power of their minds and hearts.

No need for Space Ships and 'Beam me up Scotty' technology... lol.

Anyhow...

This is what Jacob's Trouble is all about. The Elite's of this world are working day and night to replicate this Genetic Construct in order to 'become gods'.

If the DNA of the Old Testament Giants were preserved somehow, then that is where they are looking to clone...

Matthew 24:37
"But as the days of Noe were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be"


In fact, one of the most astounding Prophecies in the Bible is the fact that Mankind one day will Genetically Engineer themselves with Fallen Angels...

Daniel 2:43
"And whereas thou sawest iron mixed with miry clay, they shall mingle themselves with the seed of men: but they shall not cleave one to another, even as iron is not mixed with clay"


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THAT is Jacob's Trouble right there.
 
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Coronavirus cases confirmed in all U.S. states...

Now connect the dots to Jacob's Trouble...

Jeremiah 30:12-13
"For thus saith the LORD, Thy bruise is incurable, and thy wound is grievous"
"There is none to plead thy cause, that thou mayest be bound up: thou hast no healing medicines"


Look at the words God chose in those verses.

The Mark of the Beast is the 'Healing Medicine' that isn't going to work.

Here is another reference to the Mark of the Beast on the forehead...

Jeremiah 30:23
"Behold, the whirlwind of the LORD goeth forth with fury, a continuing whirlwind: it shall fall with pain upon the head of the wicked"


The Whirlwind in the Bible is often related to DNA...

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When Elijah was taken in a Whirlwind, he may have also been 'Translated' into the new Superior Code of the Glorified Genetics.

Translated means DNA Upgrade...

Hebrews 11:5
"By faith Enoch was translated that he should not see death; and was not found, because God had translated him: for before his translation he had this testimony, that he pleased God"
 

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THAT is Jacob's Trouble right there.
Now add this...

Luke 11:29
"And when the people were gathered thick together, he began to say, This is an evil generation: they seek a sign; and there shall no sign be given it, but the sign of Jonas the prophet"


The Sign of Jonah is like this 'Big Mystery' to Christians because they aren't taught the real meaning of the Whale's Belly...

Jonah 2:2
"And said, I cried by reason of mine affliction unto the LORD, and he heard me; out of the belly of hell cried I, and thou heardest my voice"


The 'Belly of Hell' is a picture of the Womb of Reincarnation...

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That is where Jesus would go to preach to those in prison...

1 Peter 3:19
"By which also he went and preached unto the spirits in prison"


Jesus was preaching to them in order to give them another chance in their next life. It is in the Womb where the 'gifts' are given...

Ephesians 4:11
"And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers"


Proof here...

Jeremiah 1:5
"Before I formed thee in the belly I knew thee; and before thou camest forth out of the womb I sanctified thee, and I ordained thee a prophet unto the nations"


When Jonah was tossed into the ocean, that was a picture of being thrown into the Lake of Fire.

The 'bars' were a picture of prison bars...

Jonah 2:6
"I went down to the bottoms of the mountains; the earth with her bars was about me for ever: yet hast thou brought up my life from corruption, O LORD my God"


Jonah being 'brought out of corruption' was a picture of Reincarnation.

The Wicked are going to be given this 'sign' or sentence!!!

Matthew 12:40
"For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale’s belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth"


I'm not sure how to make this any more obvious...

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You Christians out there need to let go of your fear and hatred.

God's love is so much greater that that of the Human Race.

Deal with it.
 

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THIS JUST IN!

"NEW VACCINES WILL PERMANENTLY ALTER HUMAN DNA"

“The first human trial based on this strategy — called immunoprophylaxis by gene transfer, or I.G.T. — is underway, and several new ones are planned.”

“I.G.T. is altogether different from traditional vaccination. It is instead a form of gene therapy. Scientists isolate the genes that produce powerful antibodies against certain diseases and then synthesize artificial versions. The genes are placed into viruses and injected into human tissue, usually muscle.”


New Vaccines Will Permanently Alter Human DNA

:eek:
 

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This gives understanding of why ...

Romans 1:18-32 King James Version (KJV)
18 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness;
19 Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed it unto them.
20 For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:
21 Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.
22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,
23 And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things.
24 Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves:
25 Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.
26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:
27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.
28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;
29 Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers,
30 Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents,
31 Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful:
32 Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.

Here is a good article on this...

"What Is the Tribulation?
As we discuss the great tribulation to take place just before Jesus returns, keep in mind that there have been several other "times of trouble" for God's people in the past.

For example, the children of Israel endured 400 years of tribulation just before the Exodus (Acts 7:6). The early Christians also passed through a time of trouble immediately after the stoning of Stephen (Acts 8:1). From A.D. 303-313, during the era represented by the Smyrna church (Revelation 2:10), God's people suffered a 10-year period of tribulation. But perhaps the most notable time of trouble was the 1,260 years of intense persecution waged against true Christians during the Dark Ages. "And the woman fled into the wilderness, where she hath a place prepared by God, that they should feed her there one thousand two hundred and threescore days." "And when the dragon saw that he was cast unto the earth, he persecuted the woman." Revelation 12:6, 13.

As dark as each of these times were for God's people, none can compare with the final, great tribulation that is yet to take place. The great tribulation corresponds with the time during which the seven last plagues of Revelation chapter 16 will fall. "And I saw another sign in heaven, great and marvellous, seven angels having the seven last plagues; for in them is filled up the wrath of God." Revelation 15:1.

God's wrath will be directed against the ones who disobey His law, distort His truth, and oppress His people. "For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness." Romans 1:18.

The great tribulation also coincides with the Battle of Armageddon. Both take place immediately before Christ's second coming. "And he gathered them together into a place called in the Hebrew tongue Armageddon. And the seventh angel poured out his vial into the air; and there came a great voice out of the temple of heaven, from the throne, saying, It is done."

It is my belief that the great time of trouble will last only a month or two. Here are a few Scriptures that show it will be a short period of time.

Revelation 18:8 tells us, "Therefore shall her plagues come in one day." A "day" in Bible prophecy represents one literal year (Ezekiel 4:6, Numbers 14:34, Luke 13:32). So when Revelation says that "her plagues come in one day," it means within, or less than, one year's time. The very nature of the seven last plagues-the rivers and seas turning to blood and the planet being scorched with great heat-would render it impossible for the human race to survive more than a month or two. This is why Jesus said, "And unless those days were shortened, no flesh would be saved; but for the elect's sake those days will be shortened." Matthew 24:22, NKJV....

Through The Tribulation | Inside Report Magazine | Amazing Facts
 

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In other news...

The Apostolic Penitentiary issues a Decree granting special plenary indulgences for those suffering from the coronavirus pandemic, if specific conditions are met.

On 20 March, the Apostolic Penitentiary issued a decree granting plenary indulgences to “the faithful suffering from the Covid-19 virus, commonly known as coronavirus, as well as to healthcare workers, family members and all those who in any capacity, including through prayer, care for them.”

Church grants special indulgence to coronavirus patients and caregivers - Vatican News

:rolleyes:
 

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Here is a good study on the time of Jacobs trouble...
"The actual process of giving birth remains exclusively the woman's role. If a man were
to discover that he was about to have a baby, he would have cause for real
concern! Yet spectacular as it may seem, Scripture employs this very analogy to describe a time just before the return
of Christ.

"For thus saith the Lord; We have heard a voice of trembling, of fear, and
not of peace. Ask ye now, and see whether a man doth travail with
child? wherefore do I see every man with his hands on his loins, as a
woman in travail, and all faces are turned into paleness? Alas! for that
day is great, so that none is like it: it is even the time of Jacob's trouble; but he
shall be saved out of it" (Jer. 30:3-7).

This passage has a double application. Written to Israel and Judah
during their exile, it also speaks to the time of the end; for we are all exiles,
strangers in a far country. These verses apply not only to
literal Israel but to all who are Christ's, and thus Abraham's seed, and heirs
according to the promise. We too have the hope of returning to the land of our fathers, to Eden restored.

What an amazing illustration of the experience and feelings of the people
of God during the time referred to as "the time of Jacob's trouble"!
What was Jacob's trouble? You can read about it in Genesis 32. As Jacob
neared the land of his father after an absence of many years, word came to
him of the approach of his brother Esau, accompanied by 400 men. After
doing all within his power to avert disaster, Jacob went alone to the brook
Jabbok, "and there wrestled a man with him until the breaking of the
day" (verse 24). "And when he saw that he prevailed not against him, he touched the
hollow of his thigh; and the hollow of Jacob's thigh was out of joint, as he
wrestled with him. And he said, Let me go, for the day breaketh. And he
said, I will not let thee go, except thou bless me. And he said unto him, What is thy name? And he said, Jacob. And he said, Thy name shall be called no more Jacob, but Israel: for as a prince hast thou power with God and with men, and hast prevailed. And Jacob
asked him, and said, Tell me, I pray thee, thy name. And he said, Wherefore is it that thou dost ask after my name? And he blessed him there. And Jacob called the name of the place
Peniel: for I have seen God face to face, and my life is preserved. And as he
passed over Penuel the sun rose upon him, and he halted upon his thigh"
(verses 25-31).

What Happened to Jacob?
You remember the story. God had promised Jacob the birthright. But
God has a habit of waiting until the last minute. In fact, God had waited
until Esau was out collecting the venison to bring in so he could get the
birthright. Jacob and his mother got nervous. They put their heads
together and said, "God helps those who help themselves."

In spite of the fact that Jacob was converted at Bethel when he saw the
ladder from earth to heaven, in spite of the fact that he had morning and
evening worship (and there were little piles of stones all over the land to
prove it), he still had been going through a struggle, over and over
again, to learn that what God has promised He is able to perform.
Jacob continued in the same pattern of trying to help God out, until there
by the brook a heavy hand was laid on his shoulder. Then he feared that this
was it—he was going to die. He also feared that he had brought this disas-
ter upon himself by his own sin, 20 years earlier.

This experience of Jacob illustrates what God's people will go through
during the time of Jacob's trouble"
..http://documents.adventistarchives.org/Periodicals/RH/RH19870820-V164-34.pdf and here is a video on it..
 
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I think we are seeing signs of it...
"The Dow had its worst point drop ever as stocks tumbled again"
The Dow had its worst point drop ever as stocks tumbled again - CNN
"Dow Plummets Nearly 3,000 Points As Virus Fears Spread
U.S. stocks drop sharply, while bond yields plummet again, despite Fed stimulus efforts"
Dow Plummets Nearly 3,000 Points As Virus Fears Spread
"Dow plunges nearly 3,000 points as Fed intervention does little to subdue Wall Street’s distress"
https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2020/03/16/stocks-markets-today-coronavirus/

Jacobs Troubles is not about stocks and viruses.

As your opening post revealed:
Jacobs Troubles Is about the Troubles The Jews (Jacob/ISRAEL) have encountered once having returned to theirs homeland.

WWII -England gains control of the historical homeland of the Jews/.

1946, approx. 500,000 + Jews living in the homeland then controlled by England.

1948- Control of the land, given over from England to the Jews, and the State of Israel Established.

Jewish population increase in Israel-
1948- 700,000 +
1950- 1,200,000 +
1960- 1,900,000 +
1980- 3,300,000 +
2000- 5,000,000 +
2019- 6,700,000 +

Jews from foreign nations and Jews having children in Israel has been ongoing for the last 70 years, making The State of Israel the largest "Jewish populated" area in the world.

The Jews IN Israel have been consistently AND repeatedly "threatened and attacked"...
Which IS the Time of "Jacobs Troubles".

God proclaimed;
Their exile, (accomplished)
Their return, (being accomplished)
Their troubles, (being accomplished)
Their enemies punishment, (future)
Their saving. (future)

Glory to God,
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Do you want it laid out for you....
"Coronavirus: the week the world shut down
It should not have come as a surprise. Life had already been upended in China. Iran and Italy have been reeling for a month. And yet it still felt sudden, this week, when walls were raised across the world, entire societies were quarantined and billions of people realised they had crossed a dividing line: from life before coronavirus to after.

After weeks of governments prevaricating over whether to ban mass gatherings, close businesses or seal borders, restrictions came in a flurry. “We are at war,” announced the French president, Emmanuel Macron. But without adequate weapons to fight the virus, let alone enough hospital beds or ventilators, this was the week the world beat a tactical retreat.

Spain’s 46 million citizens were in lockdown by Sunday morning. Its death toll would double by the end of the day to 288. People had partied in Dublin’s Temple Bar on Saturday night. It was a last hurrah: the neighbourhood’s water holes were indefinitely closed the following day.

The same day, Germany closed its borders to France, Switzerland and Austria, whose chancellor, Sebastian Kurz, warned the country the next weeks would be “challenging, difficult and painful”. More than 1,400 people had died in Italy.

In Mafraq, a small city in Jordan, a Syrian girl, Reem Ahmed, missed school for the first time since September. Though aged 11, the past six months were the only time she had ever spent in a classroom, part of a humanitarian programme to steer refugee children out of work and into education. But classes across Jordan had been suspended to prevent the spread of the coronavirus.

"Coronavirus: the week the world shut down
 

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The signs of the times just keeps going on and on with so many fires ...

"California wildfires map
The most recent fire is the Warnella fire, which started on Aug. 20. It is 5% contained and has burned 290 acres so far.

The largest active fire is the Scu Lightning Complex fire, which has burned 137,475 acres so far. It started on Aug. 18 and is 5% contained."

California Fire Map: Active Wildfires