What is your take? Satan was the Religious Zealots of that time.

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Haters gonna hate, and I hate people sometimes cause they just want to get under peoples skin and ruffle their feathers up, or get in on their own business and gossip about them to others.

played out.

Im not some ignorant person...

Like i said before people can use biblehub, or vines hebrew and greek dictonary, or a concordance...


Its not that hard unless youre poor and cannot afford a book. It is harder if you don't give a flipping table.


Thanks my guy @Stumpmaster
 

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Haters gonna hate, and I hate people sometimes cause they just want to get under peoples skin and ruffle their feathers up, or get in on their own business and gossip about them to others.

played out.

Im not some ignorant person...

Like i said before people can use biblehub, or vines hebrew and greek dictonary, or a concordance...


Its not that hard unless youre poor and cannot afford a book. It is harder if you don't give a flipping table.


Thanks my guy @Stumpmaster
Things get tense for grammar geeks.

Agree or disagree???
 

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Things get tense for grammar geeks.

Agree or disagree???

I’m not gonna entertain someone who doesn’t care. Hey man, all da best to ya though. :) If I wanted to be an entertainer I would have become a comedian or something.
 

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I’m not gonna entertain someone who doesn’t care. Hey man, all da best to ya though. :) If I wanted to be an entertainer I would have become a comedian or something.
To be absolutely clear, if I didn't care I wouldn't be here, asking questions about tense, not causing offense.

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To be absolutely clear, if I didn't care I wouldn't be here, asking questions about tense, not causing offense.

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Okay? Well Im sorry you’re offended that God took out the Satanic Pharisees and Religious leaders of that day. I think around 147 ad everything had come to an end for that age of time in my opinion.

I’m not antisemitism or anything it just happens to be this way. Jesus didn’t lie. And no one is religiously in charge of anyone. It’s all about faith and the Lord Jesus makes people have peace and contentment with Yahava.
 

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Yahavah wasn’t joking in the Old Testament concerning the divorce of Israel. And destroying them.

Many promises never came to fruition because they constantly kept disobeying and not listening to God.

There are people today who don’t even worship Yahava in spirit and truth. They worship the Bible itself…

So. Therefore my conclusion is just what is, a foreseen outcome. That wasn’t bs. And their demise was true and Satan was done away with…

But so many people wanna say no!


That’s fine. Say no! It’s not like I’m in charge of you…
 

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. And their demise was true and Satan was done away with…
That premise is stuck in the past tense, and yet we know that Satan still corrupts, deceives, and exploits whomever he can, present tense.

The future tense of Satan is as follows:

Rev 20:1-3 And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand. (2) And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years, (3) And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season.
 

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That premise is stuck in the past tense, and yet we know that Satan still corrupts, deceives, and exploits whomever he can, present tense.

The future tense of Satan is as follows:

Rev 20:1-3 And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand. (2) And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years, (3) And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season.
That must be one enormous tail, to sweep away a third of the stars of heaven and hurl all those planets down to earth! How on earth was anything alive after that?
 

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That premise is stuck in the past tense, and yet we know that Satan still corrupts, deceives, and exploits whomever he can, present tense.

The future tense of Satan is as follows:

Rev 20:1-3 And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand. (2) And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years, (3) And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season.
I’m not stumped, but you’re more than free to believe whatever and however you like. I don’t want to dominate your faith, so thank you for sharing, and communicating with me. However I’m done with the conversation.

I hope you’ll accept that and not be like “Ah Ha! I got gott’em” or anything of that nature cause it’s immature.
 

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Yahavah wasn’t joking in the Old Testament concerning the divorce of Israel. And destroying them.

Many promises never came to fruition because they constantly kept disobeying and not listening to God.

There are people today who don’t even worship Yahava in spirit and truth. They worship the Bible itself…

So. Therefore my conclusion is just what is, a foreseen outcome. That wasn’t bs. And their demise was true and Satan was done away with…

But so many people wanna say no!


That’s fine. Say no! It’s not like I’m in charge of you…
 

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To me, the bigger issue was how far Israel had drifted from God’s heart. They lost sight of key things like mercy, justice, and faithfulness. It’s almost like they ended up worshiping the Mosaic Law itself rather than the God behind it—which is pretty wild when you really think about it.
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Actually MattG? It's not "wild" at all! But it DOES show the "satanic influence" he has over mens' (and womens') minds.
Inasmuch as The "curse upon cain" was that he and "his seed" would not be able to prosper at all in "agrarian efforts?"
Yet? They COULD (and did) "wheel and deal*" with and against those who did! Thus infiltrating (creeping in unawares) and compromising minds to the point where their "oppressive inflence/s over mens' will**" dictated that "Mosaic Law" (falsely) NEEDED to be (how can I say) "REINTERPRETATATED!"
Welcome to the "Sages" and the "Talmud!"


*This wheeling and dealing was the beginning of what we recognize today as "the coprporate."
**This could and should be considered as the "sting of the scorpion" (aka: the beginning of the Locust Army).
 

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(snatched from your post #11)

Actually MattG? It's not "wild" at all! But it DOES show the "satanic influence" he has over mens' (and womens') minds.
Inasmuch as The "curse upon cain" was that he and "his seed" would not be able to prosper at all in "agrarian efforts?"
Yet? They COULD (and did) "wheel and deal*" with and against those who did! Thus infiltrating (creeping in unawares) and compromising minds to the point where their "oppressive inflence/s over mens' will**" dictated that "Mosaic Law" (falsely) NEEDED to be (how can I say) "REINTERPRETATATED!"
Welcome to the "Sages" and the "Talmud!"


*This wheeling and dealing was the beginning of what we recognize today as "the coprporate."
**This could and should be considered as the "sting of the scorpion" (aka: the beginning of the Locust Army).


Then it makes you wonder what influenced Satan, must have been Darkness.


I believe people loved the darkness more than the light according to Jesus right?
 

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Then it makes you wonder what influenced Satan, must have been Darkness.


I believe people loved the darkness more than the light according to Jesus right?
Is recorded in the Bible that it was "pride" that influenced satan to which was/IS darkness to GOD'S eyes.
And yes! People do love the darkness more then the "light!"
Why?
It's like "water" and takes the path of less resistance!
It IS and becomes much harder to "stand" in one's faith against and amidst the "stream" of "running/falling water" as it has this tendency to erode or wear down that which "stands!"
Which pretty much is become the beast that rises out of the bottomless pit.
And why the name/number of the beast is "man!"