What Was Before the Creation?

[WalterandDebbie]

I was going to write a reply, about the Devil being excited and God treating him indifferently, but your answer was even earlier than that!

Yes! There was One God and there was no other but He and His Son and the Holy Spirit and Wisdom.

Hello Gottservant, I think I see what you are saying,

Love, Walter

 

[Deleted member 26788]

Before the Creation, there was the Trinity:

I disagree . before creation started there was nothing but God he being all alone . not even one light in the night sky. then after the creation of the one we know as Jesus stars began to form . in time because of the stars the elements were made . it took an incredible amount of time . Billion and billions of Earth years past perhaps a googleplex of years .

 

[Nancy]

I disagree . before creation started there was nothing but God he being all alone . not even one light in the night sky. then after the creation of the one we know as Jesus stars began to form . in time because of the stars the elements were made . it took an incredible amount of time . Billion and billions of Earth years past perhaps a googleplex of years .

• John 1:1: "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God." This verse emphasizes the pre-existence of Jesus as the Word, co-eternal with God.
  
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• John 8:58: Jesus states, "Truly, truly, I say to you, before Abraham was born, I am." This declaration affirms His eternal existence prior to Abraham's birth.
  
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• Colossians 1:16-17: "For in Him all things were created, things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or rulers or authorities. All things were created through Him and for Him." This passage underscores Christ's role in creation and His pre-existence.
  
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  These passages collectively illustrate the belief that Jesus existed with God before creation, affirming His divine nature and eternal existence.

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[Deleted member 26788]

yes Jesus had to exist before all other things . even as God's master worker to then make all things happen . in every thing there is cause and effect. to get from helium to iron in the stars takes an incredible long period of time .not only are there alot of stars there are even more planets out there in endless space . all that matter had to go through the process that happens in the stars. stars had to die/end . science tells us that iron is the end of a star , it explodes sending pieces throughout the universe. or cooling to become a planet to orbit some other star. all of which take an incredible long amount of time .

 

[soberxp]

Why not ask if God was alone before creation? If God knew that Adam felt lonely, did the loneliness come from Adam himself or from God?

 

[amigo de christo]

• John 1:1: "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God." This verse emphasizes the pre-existence of Jesus as the Word, co-eternal with God.
  
  1
• John 8:58: Jesus states, "Truly, truly, I say to you, before Abraham was born, I am." This declaration affirms His eternal existence prior to Abraham's birth.
  
  1
• Colossians 1:16-17: "For in Him all things were created, things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or rulers or authorities. All things were created through Him and for Him." This passage underscores Christ's role in creation and His pre-existence.
  
  1
  These passages collectively illustrate the belief that Jesus existed with God before creation, affirming His divine nature and eternal existence.

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And lets not forget that WHEN PRAYING to THE FATHER
JESUS said
the glory which I had with THEE before the WORLD began .
GOD IS HIS WORD and HIS word be HE . its a mystery .
To the ternches dear sister The LORD is with the sheep no matter what cometh against us .

 

[amigo de christo]

• John 1:1: "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God." This verse emphasizes the pre-existence of Jesus as the Word, co-eternal with God.
  
  1
• John 8:58: Jesus states, "Truly, truly, I say to you, before Abraham was born, I am." This declaration affirms His eternal existence prior to Abraham's birth.
  
  1
• Colossians 1:16-17: "For in Him all things were created, things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or rulers or authorities. All things were created through Him and for Him." This passage underscores Christ's role in creation and His pre-existence.
  
  1
  These passages collectively illustrate the belief that Jesus existed with God before creation, affirming His divine nature and eternal existence.

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People make a mistake when they believe GOD created HIS own word which we KNOW is CHRIST .
When we read in genesis
That gives us some understanding of HOW GOD did create .
Notice He speaks and it is . nothing more and nothing less . LET there be LIGHT
and there was light . The WORD does exactly what is spoken .
THEN GOD spoke again and something else was then created . nothing more , nothing less .
Then HE speaks again .
ITS HIS OWN ESSENCE IN HIS OWN WORD and WORDS . HE is LIFE , HIS WORD IS LIFE and giveth life
and creates . This probably makes no sense .
Wish i could make it make sense . But In the beginning was THE WORD
and the WORD was with GOD and the WORD was God .

 

[amigo de christo]

And now, O Father , glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory i had with thee BEFORE the World Was ...........
NOW WHO SPOKE THOSE WORDS . JESUS DID .

 

[WalterandDebbie]

Wednesday, 7-30-25 4th. Day Of The Weekly Cycle, Av 4, 5785, 41st. Day Of Summer.

Good Morning, we have learned to ask the Father for everything in faith in Yeshua's name, because of what He has said, before creation. His essence, the Logos/Word, and Lucifer, but we realize now that GOD is a spirit.

Love, Walter And Debbie

 

[amigo de christo]

Wednesday, 7-30-25 4th. Day Of The Weekly Cycle, Av 4, 5785, 41st. Day Of Summer.

Good Morning, we have learned to ask the Father for everything in faith in Yeshua's name, because of what He has said, before creation. His essence, the Logos/Word, and Lucifer.

Love, Walter And Debbie

Now why on earth was the name lucifer included . hims was created
THE WORD O GOD was not created . please explain why you put the name of lucifer in this .

 

[WalterandDebbie]

Now why on earth was the name lucifer included . hims was created
THE WORD O GOD was not created . please explain why you put the name of lucifer in this .

amigo de christo, Good statement, As we understand, from this view:

What is the Origin of​

Lucifer and the Logos?

​

Where did the "Devil" come from? Where did he

get the name "Lucifer?" What does "Lucifer" mean?



And what about the Logos? What is His Origin? Who

Is He? What is His role in God’s Plan?



What is the true story of these ancient beings described

in the Scriptures? How did they become adversaries?

Here is one of the intriguing mysteries of the Universe

Revealed and explained!

Monday 4-28-25 2nd. Day Of The Weekly Cycle, Abib/Nisan 29, 5785 40th. Day of Spring

What Is The Origin Of Lucifer And The Logos?

Love, Walter And Debbie

 

[pandaflower]

What was before the creation?


The Creator.

 

[amigo de christo]

What was before the creation?


The Creator.

God .
He has always been . In a time not known to man that never had a beginning or an end .
Not like time as we know and understand it . to us time as we know it seems to have a beginning
and it runs course day by day and hour by hour .
But GOD has always been . And We cannot grasp the entirety of this my friend .
But He never had a beginning , HE always was . We wee puny minds cannot grasp this .

 

[amigo de christo]

amigo de christo, Good statement, As we understand, from this view:

What is the Origin of​

Lucifer and the Logos?

​

Where did the "Devil" come from? Where did he

get the name "Lucifer?" What does "Lucifer" mean?



And what about the Logos? What is His Origin? Who

Is He? What is His role in God’s Plan?



What is the true story of these ancient beings described

in the Scriptures? How did they become adversaries?

Here is one of the intriguing mysteries of the Universe

Revealed and explained!

Monday 4-28-25 2nd. Day Of The Weekly Cycle, Abib/Nisan 29, 5785 40th. Day of Spring

What Is The Origin Of Lucifer And The Logos?

Love, Walter And Debbie

No thanks my friend i read on just a bit of it and decided NOT today .
Man sure tries so hard to grasp things , but the carnal wisdom of man just cannot get the job done .
Lucifer as well as all angels and all things was created .
But NOT GOD , NOT HIS WORD , HE , HIS WORD did all the creating of all that was and all that is .
Now one might ponder
but if GOD created lucifer then why was evil found in him .
And that is a real simple answer my friend . For GOD had created HIM and all his creation good and upright .
So allow me to ask you a question .
IS IT EVIL for GOD to desire to be above all , to be put first
NO .
But it is evil for the created to do such a thing . And the created was given free will .
Lucifer became enamored and he desired the glory ,
What was not evil for GOD TO DO
IS EVIL for the created to have done . That is how evil was found in him .
HE exalted himself . BUT FOR GOD to exalt himself IT IS NOT EVIL .
for the created to do so , OH IT IS EVIL .

 

[WalterandDebbie]

No thanks my friend i read on just a bit of it and decided NOT today .
Man sure tries so hard to grasp things , but the carnal wisdom of man just cannot get the job done .
Lucifer as well as all angels and all things was created .
But NOT GOD , NOT HIS WORD , HE , HIS WORD did all the creating of all that was and all that is .
Now one might ponder
but if GOD created lucifer then why was evil found in him .
And that is a real simple answer my friend . For GOD had created HIM and all his creation good and upright .
So allow me to ask you a question .
IS IT EVIL for GOD to desire to be above all , to be put first
NO .
But it is evil for the created to do such a thing . And the created was given free will .
Lucifer became enamored and he desired the glory ,
What was not evil for GOD TO DO
IS EVIL for the created to have done . That is how evil was found in him .
HE exalted himself . BUT FOR GOD to exalt himself IT IS NOT EVIL .
for the created to do so , OH IT IS EVIL .

Thank you, my Friend. When I first read this content, I prayed about it, and as the days passed, I tried to see for myself what it was talking about.

Then I backed off a while and thought that by my doing so in confession and forsaking, unto Him would help, but I needed to learn more from Him in trust and to just obey His words with the spirit of truth. Proverbs 3:1-9, 2 Timothy 2:14-19.

And I find that Godly Sorrow Worketh Repentance.

Love, Walter And Debbie

 

[Jay Ross]

Hello, Brother Jay, is that all for now? You can say? You have said more about other issues.

"In the beginning" condenses down to "First" such that the first verse simply reads, "First, God created the heavens and the earth."

Then we have the six progressive statement: - "Then God said, 'Let there . . . etc. . . . . And God saw, at the end of that time period, i.e. a day, that it was good.'"

So, what my opening suggested verse confirms for us is, that God actually existed before He created the heavens and the earth. Trying to expand on what the word God means only leads us down too many rabbit holes into confusion trying to answer the question in the thread title, "What was before the creation?"

 

[WalterandDebbie]

"In the beginning" condenses down to "First" such that the first verse simply reads, "First, God created the heavens and the earth."

Then we have the six progressive statement: - "Then God said, 'Let there . . . etc. . . . . And God saw, at the end of that time period, i.e. a day, that it was good.'"

So, what my opening suggested verse confirms for us is, that God actually existed before He created the heavens and the earth. Trying to expand on what the word God means only leads us down too many rabbit holes into confusion trying to answer the question in the thread title, "What was before the creation?"

Thank you, Brother, Love, always, Walter