What we are? discussion

[JasonTheServent]

Hi. I'm looking for different views and takes on what are we. I have my own take and will share it with you. I'm not saying my view on this is correct and would love different perspectives. When I was first reborn 18 years ago, I was told that I was a spirit that had a soul that dwelled in a body but after studying Ecclesiastes and discovering this scripture,

Ecclesiastes 12:7
Then the dust will return to the earth as it was, And the spirit will return to God who gave it.

I meditated on the wording of how it says, the spirit and not our spirit, and I began questioning my original teachings of what I am. And this is what my belief has become.

What I believe I am

Genesis 2:7 nkjv
And the Lord God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living being.


Now the definition of "being" is existence. So, it actually says man became a living existence. With understanding this I began searching the scriptures and found this.


1 Corinthians 3:16
Do you not know that you are the temple of God and that the Spirit of God dwells in you?


With this scripture and a lot of meditation, I came to this conclusion of what I am.

I am a living temple of God for the Spirit to dwell in.

 

[Tommy Cool]

Where God used to dwell in the structural temple He now dwells in us ….

The Temple … the holy of holies “naos” is how we as the body of Christ (a group of, or the entire body) are referenced. throughout this administration of grace ONLY ….it then changes back to the structure building in Revelation.

Naos → 1Co 3:16, 1Co 3:17, 1Co 6:19, 2Co 6:16, Eph 2:21, Act 17:24, Act 7:48,

As Individual believers we are reference as the tabernacle throughout the administration of grace which again changes back to the structural in Revelation…

2Co 5:1, 2Co 5:4, skēnos 2Pe 1:13, 2Pe 1:14 skēnōma Heb 8:2, Heb 9:11, skēnē

 

[JasonTheServent]

Where God used to dwell in the structural temple He now dwells in us ….

The Temple … the holy of holies “naos” is how we as the body of Christ (a group of, or the entire body) are referenced. throughout this administration of grace ONLY ….it then changes back to the structure building in Revelation.

Naos → 1Co 3:16, 1Co 3:17, 1Co 6:19, 2Co 6:16, Eph 2:21, Act 17:24, Act 7:48,

As Individual believers we are reference as the tabernacle throughout the administration of grace which again changes back to the structural in Revelation…

2Co 5:1, 2Co 5:4, skēnos 2Pe 1:13, 2Pe 1:14 skēnōma Heb 8:2, Heb 9:11, skēnē

And Jesus answering said unto them, Do ye not therefore err, because ye know not the scriptures, neither the power of God? For when they shall rise from the dead, they neither marry, nor are given in marriage; but are as the angels which are in heaven.
Mark 12:24-25

I agree with you for Jesus says will as the angels in heaven. So we will be translated into something else.

And I saw no temple therein: for the Lord God Almighty and the Lamb are the temple of it.
Revelation 21:22

 

[ScottA]

Hi. I'm looking for different views and takes on what are we. I have my own take and will share it with you. I'm not saying my view on this is correct and would love different perspectives. When I was first reborn 18 years ago, I was told that I was a spirit that had a soul that dwelled in a body but after studying Ecclesiastes and discovering this scripture,

Ecclesiastes 12:7
Then the dust will return to the earth as it was, And the spirit will return to God who gave it.

I meditated on the wording of how it says, the spirit and not our spirit, and I began questioning my original teachings of what I am. And this is what my belief has become.

What I believe I am

Genesis 2:7 nkjv
And the Lord God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living being.


Now the definition of "being" is existence. So, it actually says man became a living existence. With understanding this I began searching the scriptures and found this.


1 Corinthians 3:16
Do you not know that you are the temple of God and that the Spirit of God dwells in you?


With this scripture and a lot of meditation, I came to this conclusion of what I am.

I am a living temple of God for the Spirit to dwell in.

Perhaps you have read or heard this in Revelation, that "...there was silence in heaven for about half an hour."

It is at that point that "what we are" came/comes into being. We know that with God there is no time, for He "is the same yesterday, today, and forever" and that time was "created" just as we and all the world were also created. God spoke and it was so.

But the idea that God, being the Potter, resides within these clay pots...is simply a misunderstanding. The statement, that "the kingdom of God is within you" does not speak of containing God, but rather of where and how we are set free of that same containment where we were made prisoners. It must be accomplished within--that is, within the heart and mind of a person..."for the flesh profits nothing."

Back to the "half hour" of "silence in heaven." God created the world to add to His tent--to "lengthen the cords" to include us. That, not that it was "not good that man should be alone"...but that He should be alone.

Thus the half hour of silence in heaven--not being a matter of time in heaven, but an intentional break from "I am" to "We." It is then that God spoke and matter that was not matter but light and energy, became rather a period of matter by the power of God. In doing so, matter means creating darkness and light, and shadows--which are the defining points of good and evil, and the foreshadowing of what is to be. In which case, the man of sin was exposed before the light of God, from whom darkness would eventually be dissolved with all the elements of this present heavens and earth with fervent heat and with fire, leaving only what is good and of God to remain, and that the prayer of Christ should be fulfilled that "we" be One as they are One.

We are.