whats the biblical role of men and women

[Holy999]

shall women wear hair covering ?
shall men be bossy=??

 

[101G]

Addressing the OP, they both "SERVE" God.
Galatians 3:28


PICJAG
101G The "Spiritual Saboteur"

 

[Gregory]

shall women wear hair covering ?
shall men be bossy=??

The biblical role of a man and a woman is to be husband and wife in the Lord and to be a support for each other.

Just a couple of scriptures to support my thoughts on this:

Genesis 2:18 King James Version (KJV)
18 And the Lord God said, It is not good that the man should be alone; I will make him an help meet for him.

AND

1 Corinthians 11:11 King James Version (KJV)
11 Nevertheless neither is the man without the woman, neither the woman without the man, in the Lord.

As far as I have discovered there is no end date to this relationship between a man and a woman.

 

[DuckieLady]

Man is head of the woman, as Christ is head of the man, and God head of Christ.
The woman was sent to be his helper and companion.

I do wear a covering, but that's not a salvation issue in my opinion.

...Why do we tiptoe around this? God's natural order is perfection.

By the way, I had a pastor that said Proverbs 31 outlined everything that the woman had to do ... an entire chapter! But when it came to the man all he had to do was be exactly... like ... Jesus.

 

[101G]

to all who answered above. thanks for the replies, that's if a man and a woman was married. but not all women are married, or men.

The biblical role of a man and a woman is to be husband and wife in the Lord and to be a support for each other.

that not mandated for all to Marry.

Man is head of the woman, as Christ is head of the man, and God head of Christ.
The woman was sent to be his helper and companion.

not saying that you're right or wrong, but that's in a marriage, (in a helper scenario, as you said). now the term head here, only mean SOURCE, and not a order of authority. in Christ Jesus there is neither Male nor Female. and not all men, or all women are married, so that want apply there.

if one would notice, the head of the woman is man, NOT the head of the wife is the Husband...... notice the difference? for the woman came out of or from the man, not the wife out of the husband. as with the Christ, notice no personal name are used. understand Christ is out of God, not Jesus.

you said, "...Why do we tiptoe around this? God's natural order is perfection". God's natural Order is perfection, all are the SAME in his eyes. in a marriage, there are responsibilities, and there are freedoms and restriction. but these only apply to the married. as said, not all are married. and when it come to God's Holy House, both are free in the perfection of God. for there is no RESPECT OF PERSON WITH GOD.

By the way, I had a pastor that said Proverbs 31 outlined everything that the woman had to do ... an entire chapter! But when it came to the man all he had to do was be exactly... like ... Jesus.

well I want argue with you or anyone else. but I will say this. in a marriage, what works for house A may not nessary work in house B, or C, or D.
however, everyone should be like the Lord Jesus the Christ.

if a man and a woman decide to get Married, that's their freedom to do this, but if a man or a woman decide not to be married, that's their freedom in choice also. but let me say this, just because a woman or a man married or married not, their freedoms in christ is the same, in God's Holy House.

for if a woman or a man desire, or is called, into the service of the Lord, for a certian work, then a spouse has no authority over God.

knowing that, in God's House a woman, married or not is free to work in the calling that the Lord desires. be ye it teaching, preaching, pastoring, ect...just as a man, for there is no difference in God.
now as said, in a secular setting concering a home, if they set some rules or not, that's for them and no one else. but when it comes to God house, he set the rules and regulations.

now, there is a difference in a marriage, and or those who are not married. but with God, there is no difference. he is Lord over all.

PICJAG
101G The "Spiritual Saboteur"

 

[DuckieLady]

to all who answered above. thanks for the replies, that's if a man and a woman was married. but not all women are married, or men.


that not mandated for all to Marry.


not saying that you're right or wrong, but that's in a marriage, (in a helper scenario, as you said). now the term head here, only mean SOURCE, and not a order of authority. in Christ Jesus there is neither Male nor Female. and not all men, or all women are married, so that want apply there.

if one would notice, the head of the woman is man, NOT the head of the wife is the Husband...... notice the difference? for the woman came out of or from the man, not the wife out of the husband. as with the Christ, notice no personal name are used. understand Christ is out of God, not Jesus.

you said, "...Why do we tiptoe around this? God's natural order is perfection". God's natural Order is perfection, all are the SAME in his eyes. in a marriage, there are responsibilities, and there are freedoms and restriction. but these only apply to the married. as said, not all are married. and when it come to God's Holy House, both are free in the perfection of God. for there is no RESPECT OF PERSON WITH GOD.


well I want argue with you or anyone else. but I will say this. in a marriage, what works for house A may not nessary work in house B, or C, or D.
however, everyone should be like the Lord Jesus the Christ.

if a man and a woman decide to get Married, that's their freedom to do this, but if a man or a woman decide not to be married, that's their freedom in choice also. but let me say this, just because a woman or a man married or married not, their freedoms in christ is the same, in God's Holy House.

for if a woman or a man desire, or is called, into the service of the Lord, for a certian work, then a spouse has no authority over God.

knowing that, in God's House a woman, married or not is free to work in the calling that the Lord desires. be ye it teaching, preaching, pastoring, ect...just as a man, for there is no difference in God.
now as said, in a secular setting concering a home, if they set some rules or not, that's for them and no one else. but when it comes to God house, he set the rules and regulations.

now, there is a difference in a marriage, and or those who are not married. but with God, there is no difference. he is Lord over all.

PICJAG
101G The "Spiritual Saboteur"

Right, but Holy999 seems to be specifically speaking in regards to relationships based on the question and considering he's from Sweden and English is not his first language, I thought it would be better to keep it as simplistic as possible.

I understand what you are saying and I am not married, nor do I intend to be in the future, but I don't think that the order makes any real difference whether you're married or not. Doesn't it all really just come down to respect for your husband anyway? When you really break it down that's pretty much all it is.

 

[101G]

Right, but Holy999 seems to be specifically speaking in regards to relationships based on the question and considering he's from Sweden and English is not his first language, I thought it would be better to keep it as simplistic as possible.

I understand what you are saying and I am not married, nor do I intend to be in the future, but I don't think that the order makes any real difference whether you're married or not. Doesn't it all really just come down to respect for your husband anyway? When you really break it down that's pretty much all it is.

first thanks for the reply, the bible say "HONOR" each other, and I haven't found where it say that the wife is to LOVE her husband except for the general Love for one another. but the bible is clear in that the Husband is to LOVE his wife. and also the bible is clear, that a wife is to submit unto her husband. and as a matter of fact the Husband is to Love his wife even to the point of dying for her as Christ gave his life for his wife the church...... one of the things as you said this Pastor told you, "the husband is to be like Christ", well christ died for his wife..... YIKES! now I wonder how many men would ... today do that?...... (smile?)

and as in submission, on a wife part, is not rulership by the husband. no one rule another, but is caring for one another, yes in respect for one another, secular.

there is a lot to a marriage than met the eye. for there is a lot to learn before one gets married. and it's not just all about "LOVE" neither.

PICJAG
101G The "Spiritual Saboteur"

 

[Hidden In Him]

Man is head of the woman, as Christ is head of the man, and God head of Christ.
The woman was sent to be his helper and companion.

I do wear a covering, but that's not a salvation issue in my opinion.

...Why do we tiptoe around this? God's natural order is perfection.

By the way, I had a pastor that said Proverbs 31 outlined everything that the woman had to do ... an entire chapter! But when it came to the man all he had to do was be exactly... like ... Jesus.

Actually, I agree with that pastor, at least in that statement. :) People don't seem to take the analogy of a man and wife symbolizing Christ and His bride seriously enough, and so they break with something that's intended to be extremely beautiful. But the idea that a husband should seek to be perfect to her is somehow deemed fanatical or something. I think when a man is very deeply in love he will do anything for a woman, including die for her, and he will seek to NEVER make a mistake in the way he treats her. And the more he can sacrifice for her in all things and in all ways, the more the Lord will empower Him to lead her properly, in a way that is not dictatorial or self-serving, but only wanting to protect her and keep her from harm.

Not that I'm saying you are making the wrong decision, but it's a shame you have no plans on marrying again. A post like this suggests you are a very good candidate for a godly man, should you ever find one.

God bless,
Hidden

 

[DuckieLady]

Actually, I agree with that pastor, at least in that statement. :) People don't seem to take the analogy of a man and wife symbolizing Christ and His bride seriously enough, and so they break with something that's intended to be extremely beautiful. But the idea that a husband should seek to be perfect to her is somehow deemed fanatical or something. I think when a man is very deeply in love he will do anything for a woman, including die for her, and he will seek to NEVER make a mistake in the way he treats her. And the more he can sacrifice for her in all things and in all ways, the more the Lord will empower Him to lead her properly, in a way that is not dictatorial or self-serving, but only wanting to protect her and keep her from harm.

Not that I'm saying you are making the wrong decision, but it's a shame you have no plans on marrying again. A post like this suggests you are a very good candidate for a godly man, should you ever find one.

God bless,
Hidden

I agree with him too! But it took us all a minute to get it at first. Pastor had a bit of a dry sense of humor. Imagine, "All you have to do is be just like Jesus." It was quiet for a minute and then a wave of laughter through the room. It is the most difficult example of character on the planet to follow. Perfection! To love, be as forgiving, as graceful, as merciful, as self-controlled, and so on...

I hope there are more men like you described left. I would take it in a heartbeat. We will see.

 

[Hidden In Him]

I hope there are more men like you described left. I would take it in a heartbeat. We will see.

A Ha Ha Ha!!! Well then I will pray for you that the Lord sends Prince Charming along shortly, or in due time.

In the mean time, there's always man's best friend. :) You gotta find ways to make due, cuz you may have a long wait on your hands, LoL.

In all seriousness, the apostle John had a prayer, telling the churches, "I would that you prosper and be in health, even as your soul prospers."

If I had a prayer for the body of Christ, it would be that they find true love - the one God called them to be with - and experience what it truly means to reflect the Love of Christ for His bride, and the love and desire of the church to obey her Lord and honor Him. If we could ever pull that one off, we'd probably conquer the world in short order, LoL.

 

[DuckieLady]

A Ha Ha Ha!!! Well then I will pray for you that the Lord sends Prince Charming along shortly, or in due time.

In the mean time, there's always man's best friend. :) You gotta find ways to make due, cuz you may have a long wait on your hands, LoL.

In all seriousness, the apostle John had a prayer, telling the churches, "I would that you prosper and be in health, even as your soul prospers."

If I had a prayer for the body of Christ, it would be that they find true love - the one God called them to be with - and experience what it truly means to reflect the Love of Christ for His bride, and the love and desire of the church to obey her Lord and honor Him. If we could ever pull that one off, we'd probably conquer the world in short order, LoL.

Hehe! Let it be so! i hope so. I think that is a beautiful prayer. If my strange visitation/vision dream from being a child was accurate, which I can't see how it couldn't be at this point, I was promised a home and a husband/family- because I was asked, "What do you want most when you're an adult?" That was apparently my answer. Good on 6 or 7 year old me. LOL I said, "When?" He said, "Before you're 34."

6 1/2 months to find out if I'm crazy. I've been waiting a long time to find out.

 

[Hidden In Him]

6 1/2 months to find out if I'm crazy. I've been waiting a long time to find out.

I hope you're not. :)

If you turn out to be, congratulations! and join the club! LoL.

 

[Taken]

whats the biblical role of men and women
OP^

Simple big picture:

Men...close your mouth, open your Ears to Hearing the Word of God.

•••When Only the Jewish Temple existed...
Men....close your mouth, open your Ears, Listen.
Men...who could Read, take your turn AT opening your mouth, Read, while Other men, shut their mouth and Listened.
Men...go home to your house...Open your mouth, teach what you Heard in Temple, To your wives and Children.
Men...tend your fields and Animals to provide food for your Family.

Women...reiterate Husbands Teaching of Gods Word / methods, rules, Forward to Children daily.
Women...Care for Children, while husband absent in fields.

•••Introduction of Christ's Church:
Gatherings of Men & Women & Children:
Similar method:
Close your mouth open your Ears:
Verify what you HEAR, is Scripturally Sound.

•Gathering Purpose:
Hear Gods Word.
House of Prayer, Worship, Praise and Glory Unto The Lord God Almighty.
•Modest attire for gathering.
•Disruption, Gossiping, Unruly Behavior Discouraged.

•Church Gatherings INTENTS...
To OVERFLOW- In the Same Respect in homes.
•Husbands and Wives...together with Children Daily cohesively teaching and practicing Daily Life together as Bonded family in Agreement according to Gods Word.


Glory to God,
Taken

 

[Taken]

shall women wear hair covering ?
shall men be bossy=??

Bossy is not exclusive to men...
Anyone who is "telling" another WHAT to do or not do...is bossing.
It is indicative of Telling an other...DO this.
Asking, is indicative of the other, having a choice...to Do or Not.

A 4yr old can tell anyone to DO this or that.
Bossing? yep. They are still in learning stage of Commanding VS Asking.

Shall men be bossy?
All people are bossy...In some instances yes, a man should assert the authority of his role...so also should, everyone else.

Shall women wear hair covering?
Shall? no. Choice? yes.
A woman's Head covering IS her hair.
A hair covering is worn by women for the own Individual choice;
From...respect for a culture, to fashion, to keeping Dust out of her hair, to control wind from blowing her hair in her face, for a Tradition, for humbleness, etc.


Glory to God,
Taken

 

[101G]

Shall women wear hair covering?
Shall? no. Choice? yes.
A woman's Head covering IS her hair.
A hair covering is worn by women for the own Individual choice;
From...respect for a culture, to fashion, to keeping Dust out of her hair, to control wind from blowing her hair in her face, for a Tradition, for humbleness, etc.

ON point there.

1 Corinthians 11:15 "But if a woman have long hair, it is a glory to her: for her hair is given her for a covering."
1 Corinthians 11:16 "But if any man seem to be contentious, we have no such custom, neither the churches of God."

as M.C. Hammer said, "can't touch this".

PICJAG
101G The "Spiritual Saboteur"

 

[Paul Christensen]

Paul's intention for the roles of men and women in the church was that they were to serve as equals. In 1 Corinthians 11 he approved of women prophesying. He approved of Priscilla having a dominant role in the wife-husband ministry with Aquila. He also acknowledged a female apostle. The Corinthian church was situated in the home of Ce, and she would have had a leadership role seeing that the church was in her home.

The silencing of women in the church came about in the second century when certain apostolic fathers sought to align the Christian church with Roman social customs. In Roman society, women had a subservient role to men. There were many fraudulent revisions to the sacred texts during the second century, one which was to remove the instruction that women should keep silence in churches from its proper contextual place to make it appear that Paul was requiring that all women should not have a verbal role in the churches. In reality, the reference was not about silencing women, but to maintain order in the churches, and his instructions for unmarried women and married women were different. There were three areas of confusion in the Corinthian church: (1) tongues spoken without interpretation - remedy - silence. (2) People giving prophecies together instead of one by one- remedy, if a person is giving a prophetic word, others remain silent. (3) Married women commenting and loudly judging prophecies - remedy - such women to be silent in their comments. What Paul was teaching was that for married women, church was not the same as home. The confusion was that the church was in a home, and therefore formality was slack, and Paul was instructing that because it was church, it needed to be run decently and in order.

What happened in the second century was that texts were manipulated to put women into a non-verbal role in the churches. This was done in the Latin churches, which eventually became the Roman Catholic church. Therefore the doctrine of women keeping silence in church is essentially a RCC doctrine, and not a Pauline one.

In the second century, the church went from a Spirit-led church to a literary church in which the Roman style pulpit that was used to make important civil announcements, was set up to conduct readings of the apostolic writings. Because women were not permitted to speak from the Roman pulpits, the same prohibition was introduced into the churches, and so because Scripture reading and preaching was now done from the Pulpit, women were prohibited from preaching.

Paul was not anti-woman, but into the second century, the apostolic fathers of that time became chauvinistic and patristic, and the original texts were manipulated accordingly, and the church has mainly been that way ever since.

 

[Reggie Belafonte]

Be who God made you to be and do not live as a Lie.

Satan undermines all in anyway that he can so as to live a lie.

Nowadays Satan's works are all around us tempting us to follow nonsense, a man claiming to be a woman ? it's embraced by Satan's power of delusions. how stupid, not to mention how rude to degrade women like that. The audacity and unmitigated gall.

 

[Reggie Belafonte]

"In Christ, there are no male or female. But, all are one."

All are as One in Christ Jesus? not all are one. they still are Male and female on earth and have their role as such.
Marxism peddles all are the same, so a man can punch a woman in the face ? we are the same you know ? So a woman can be dragged into war on the front line and disrespected just as any other man.
The Satanist Marxist cast delusions that all are equal, only to bastardise all.