When the Pulpit Becomes a Paycheck

[IndianaRob]

Jesus did say, “whosoever liveth and believeth in me shall never die” (John 11: 26), but He qualified that statement by explaining exactly what He meant during the very same conversation. Just one verse earlier, He said, “he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live” (John 11:25). Physical death is not ruled out for believers, but it will have no victory over them anymore (1 Corinthians 15:54–55). The Bible plainly records many believers who have died physically after trusting in Christ (Acts 7: 59–60; Philippians 1:21–23; Hebrews 9:27), so “never die” is speaking of the second death, the eternal separation from God, rather than physical death never occurring. Paul himself wrote that “it is appointed unto men once to die” (Hebrews 9: 27) and that not all believers will die before Christ returns, but for those believers who are alive when Christ comes, they will be “caught up” after the dead in Christ have first been resurrected from the dead (1 Thessalonians 4:16–17). This is not the promise that every believer escapes physical death, but that all who are in Christ will be gathered up to Him, whether that happens through resurrection from the grave or a transformation from the living state (1 Corinthians 15:51–52). To take “we who are alive and remain” as a promise that no believer will ever see physical death makes an assertion far beyond what the text and the rest of Scripture actually teaches. And NO, this is not coming from bias, nor am I reinterpreting these verses, I am simply stating them the way the Bible says them, in their immediate context and in harmony with the whole counsel of God’s Word (1 Corinthians 2:13, 2 Timothy 3:16–17).

Let me ask you this: When your body dies and your spirit goes to be with the Lord, does the Lord considered you as dead?

Would the Bible call you ‘the dead in Christ’ while at the same time you’re very much alive in heaven with Jesus?

There’s only one group of people in history that could ever be called the dead in Christ and that’s the Old Testament believers who died believing in Christ but were still dead in their sins and trespasses until Jesus paid their sin debt at the cross.

 

[PS95]

The NKJV using that type of language just obliterated the meaning of that verse. Basically the NKJV preachers a DIFFERENT gospel than the KJV.

Talk about a different gospel...
Ok Rob--- what's the deal? I was just reading thru another thread and saw your post. (below) What are you talking about? After Jesus ascended to heaven the angels said He would return.
All of the apostles believed in His return- who knew He had been resurrected. Never mind which version.
Do you read your bible at all? lol Why would the apostles talk about Jesus' future return if He had already returned?

@IndianaRob said -They don’t talk about a future return of Christ because they know it’s already happened but for some reason they can’t see that His return was the resurrection.

quote from here--

The coming of the Lord ushers in the end

I know. Which results in them never talking about the cross or about the future return of Christ or the age to come. They don’t talk about a future return of Christ because they know it’s already happened but for some reason they can’t see that His return was the resurrection.

www.christianityboard.com

 

[Marvelloustime]

Whose deadly wound was healed .
Who caused fire from heaven
and by the means of those miracles decieved .
YOU wanna hear something that should shock the boots off of many .
I HEARD THESE VERY WORDS by a pope
and later by a prostestant leader . HEALING THE WOUND
and the same leaders were crying FIRE FROM HEAVEN as they were awaiting miracles signs and wonders .
JUST WHO YOU THINK THEY ARE BEING PREPARED for to love and to honor follow and obey .
THIS IS NOT looking good . A very heavy and dark delusion of upmost reprobation has set in
amongst a generation THAT DARN SURE DIDNT WANT ANY REMINDER OF GOD IN ITS STREETS , MIND or CONSCIOUS .
now read romans one . and read second thess . AND FOR THIS cause shall GOD send a STRONG delusion
that they who rejected the love of the truth whereby they could be saved , WOULD BELEIVE A LIE AND BE DAMNED .
ITS COMING IN . ITS COMING IN and many are headed right into its web of what it calls love and it claims is of GOD
and it is preparing their minds , making all ready
NOT FOR CHRIST , cause repentance darn sure aint preached and faith in CHRIST is not preached .
ACCEPTANCE OF SINS is preached . IT is as though a dark elijah has arisen
to make ready this people by preaching acceptance of sins , FOR ANTI CHRIST and ITS BROAD ROAD LIE . and they
believe this path is the way TO PEACE N SAFETY of this world .
KINDA ODD that paul even said FOR WHEN THEY WERE SAYING peace n safety , SUDDEN DESTRUCTION shall come upon them all .
THIS world and its inquity is hitting the full , the trangressors are coming to the full .
And now a word .
AND at the time of the end , WHEN the transgressors have come to the FULL
THEN SHALL A KING STAND and that KING who by PEACE , YES BY PEACE , DESTORYS MANY , IT AINT GOD , IT AINT GOD AT ALL .
WE are running out of time . SO MAKE OUR STAND WE MUST as we desire the death of none but rather their repentance .

@amigo de christo

 

[Marvelloustime]

You wrote , this false love that tolerates sin is NOT biblical love at all . RIGHT .
Now a reminder.
WE know what it tolerates , but have you noticed WHAT IT WONT tolerate . TRUTH , THE WORDS OF GOD and those who SPEAK SUCH WORDS . this is what IS HAS LED THEM TOO . utter rebellion against GOD
but JUST as JESUS had warned HIS OWN
so now i warn us all . THE TIME is coming and now IS
when this entire lukewarm all inclusive generation , many path intefaith beleiving , sin accepting merged world and her religloins
WILL ALL BELEIVE THEY DO GODS WILL , WHEN EVEN we are eradicated from society
THEY THINK ITS THEY WHO KNOW GOD and HIS LOVE and we are the haters in darkness . THEY THINK ITS GODS WILL
for this world peace n safety
NOT KNOWING THAT JESUS CAME NOT to bring peace on earth but rather divsions .
BUT GUESS WHO DOES COME to bring peace on earth and BY THAT PEACE DOES DESTROY MANY .
THAT IS EXACTLY WHERE ITS ALL HEADED RIGHT TOO . they follow the wrong god my friend . HE who has come in his own name
to lead them to the promise of what they SEE as Salvation and as WORLD PEACE N SAFETY . its peaking now . and it will get worse .

@amigo de christo

 

[Marvelloustime]

HOW does this people who even claim GOD and CHRIST
treat one when they come in WITH the words OF TRUTH INSPIRED BY GOD
that corrects sin . WELL , HOW ARE YOU TREATED . exactly . ITS not looking good at all in these last hours for many .
IF even a man tries to expose sin and to correct sin often they are cast as being judgmental , haters , no love
BUT is it they who overlook sin who love or is it those who correct sin who love .
LETS ALLOW GODS OWN WORDS TO SHOW US .
YE shall NOT hate your neighbor in your heart , you shall in any way CORRECT HIM and NOT ALLOW SIN UPON HIM .
But they call that HATE and this acceptance of sins LOVE . ITS all backwards now . satan KNOWS how to deceive .
And many have loved a lie . THE TRUTH , YEAH NOT SO MUCH AT ALL do they love . BUT a lie
a real broad sin accepting path to GOD , THEY SEEM TO LOVE . something is dead wrong . But continue to warn we must .
No matter the cost , NO MATTER the cost .

@amigo de christo

 

[IndianaRob]

Talk about a different gospel...
Ok Rob--- what's the deal? I was just reading thru another thread and saw your post. (below) What are you talking about? After Jesus ascended to heaven the angels said He would return.
All of the apostles believed in His return- who knew He had been resurrected. Never mind which version.
Do you read your bible at all? lol Why would the apostles talk about Jesus' future return if He had already returned?







quote from here--

The coming of the Lord ushers in the end

I know. Which results in them never talking about the cross or about the future return of Christ or the age to come. They don’t talk about a future return of Christ because they know it’s already happened but for some reason they can’t see that His return was the resurrection.

www.christianityboard.com

The apostles don’t talk about his future return because they knew his return was the second coming. What’s happening is that you’re taking every mention of Jesus coming as a future second coming. I’m sure you’ll tell me the verse below is talking about a future second coming but it’s not, in fact it’s proving to us that it is NOT a future second because (if we believe the Bible EXACTLY as written) Paul is telling you loud and clear that when the Lord comes PAUL will be alive and remaining.

1Th 4:15 For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep

Paul is talking about the same coming as these verses.

Mat 16:28 Verily I say unto you, There be some standing here, which shall not taste of death, till they see the Son of man coming in his kingdom.

Mat 10:23 But when they persecute you in this city, flee ye into another: for verily I say unto you, Ye shall not have gone over the cities of Israel, till the Son of man be come.

Mat 26:64 Jesus saith unto him, Thou hast said: nevertheless I say unto you, Hereafter shall ye see the Son of man sitting on the right hand of power, and coming in the clouds of heaven.

 

[amigo de christo]

Ephesians 4:11-16 KJV
11) And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers;
12) For the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ:
13) Till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ:
14) That we henceforth be no more children, tossed to and fro, and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the sleight of men, and cunning craftiness, whereby they lie in wait to deceive;
15) But speaking the truth in love, may grow up into him in all things, which is the head, even Christ:
16) From whom the whole body fitly joined together and compacted by that which every joint supplieth, according to the effectual working in the measure of every part, maketh increase of the body unto the edifying of itself in love.

This is the answer.

Much love!

Speaking what . speaking what . TRUTH in love . but a lie no matter how kind , caring and loving it may have appeared
to sound as it made that road to GOD very big and accepted and overlooked sins
and even cradled to that which is of anti christ , IS NOT THE TRUTH .
many now speaks fables and good sounding broad paths , THINKING its love and loving to do so .
Because many are still trapped under what is written in verse fourteen .
THEY tossed to and fro by cunning men and leaders who have preached unto them another image
of what they all Think is GOD and is love and is loving . ONLY , YEAH IT AINT GOD AT ALL .

 

[Lizbeth]

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God’s word makes it clear that the work of the ministry is a sacred calling, not a business. “A hireling,” Jesus said, “does not care for the sheep, but a wolf snatches them away. He does this because he is a hireling and does not care about the sheep” (John 10:12–13). Too many pulpits are now filled by men who are more concerned with profit than with the truth. The success of their ministry is measured by the size of their offering and the upgrades in their lifestyle, not by their fidelity to God’s Word.

The apostle Paul was clear in his rejection of such men: “We are not, like so many, peddlers of God’s word” (2 Corinthians 2:17). Peddle is a military word that means to market for personal advantage. These preachers make a product out of the gospel. They manipulate the emotions of people to wring donations from them, promise blessings in return for money, and lead a life of luxury while their flocks live in poverty. Peter said that false teachers “in their greed… will exploit you with false words” (2 Peter 2:3).

To be sure, faithful ministers should be supported. The Scripture says that “the elders who direct the affairs of the church well are worthy of double honor, especially those who work hard at preaching and teaching” (1 Timothy 5:17–18). This is the right of those who labor in the gospel. But there is a difference between receiving support and pursuing the ministry as a way to get rich. A true servant will preach the truth whether or not he is supported, he will endure hardship for the sake of Christ, and he will care more about the salvation of souls than about his own comfort.

Ministers who are in it for the money take the glory of Christ and exchange it for the cheap temporary satisfaction of wealth. They may win a large following, but they will lose the blessing of God. And one day they will give account to the Chief Shepherd for every word and every dollar that has been entrusted to them in false pretenses. The gospel is priceless, and it must never be for sale.

There is nothing new under the sun, is there? "Christianity" in the west has become a multimillion dollar business.

This is Mystery Babylon and her "merchants" who sell their wares, take souls captive and "trade in souls of men":

Jer 5:26-31

For among my people are found wicked men: they lay wait, as he that setteth snares; they set a trap, they catch men.

As a cage is full of birds, so are their houses full of deceit: therefore they are become great, and waxen rich.

They are waxen fat, they shine: yea, they overpass the deeds of the wicked: they judge not the cause, the cause of the fatherless, yet they prosper; and the right of the needy do they not judge.

Shall I not visit for these things? saith the LORD: shall not my soul be avenged on such a nation as this?

A wonderful and horrible thing is committed in the land;

The prophets prophesy falsely, and the priests bear rule by their means; and my people love to have it so: and what will ye do in the end thereof?

Scripture says we are to "buy the truth, but sell it not." A workman is worth his wages, yes, but that is not talking about becoming wealthy from peddling and hawking prophecies and teachings.

 

[amigo de christo]

There is nothing new under the sun, is there? "Christianity" in the west has become a multimillion dollar business.

This is Mystery Babylon and her "merchants" who sell their wares, take souls captive and "trade in souls of men":

Jer 5:26-31

For among my people are found wicked men: they lay wait, as he that setteth snares; they set a trap, they catch men.

As a cage is full of birds, so are their houses full of deceit: therefore they are become great, and waxen rich.

They are waxen fat, they shine: yea, they overpass the deeds of the wicked: they judge not the cause, the cause of the fatherless, yet they prosper; and the right of the needy do they not judge.

Shall I not visit for these things? saith the LORD: shall not my soul be avenged on such a nation as this?

A wonderful and horrible thing is committed in the land;

The prophets prophesy falsely, and the priests bear rule by their means; and my people love to have it so: and what will ye do in the end thereof?

Scripture says we are to "buy the truth, but sell it not." A workman is worth his wages, yes, but that is not talking about becoming wealthy from peddling and hawking prophecies and teachings.

Many need to see these words again . Because many be beleiving and thinking
that false men and women of belial are blessed of GOD cause they got so much money .
How about we brings another psalm as well that helps to explain this SLIPPERY SLOPE .
GO YE INTO THE TABERNACLE OF GOD and SEE THEIR END . I had nigh well slipped , i was envious
at how the wicked seemed to prosper said The writer of that pslam , TILL I WENT INTO THE TABERNACLE OF GOD
and SAW THEIR END . what a slipper slope indeed . THE BEST LIFE sellers have no idea
nor do those who sit under them , WHAT THEIR END WILL BE on the DAY OF THE LORD .
THEY wax RICH indeed . RICH IN MONEY , BUT BIG TIME POOR IN FAITH .
The nar realm is of upmost darkness , as is the RCC and scores of others like mormon , jw and many others now .
That might seem like the words of a man who has naught but hate for people
But it is out of concern FOR THEM that i do speak such words .
SO allow me some words , I KNOW most all will believe is hate speech
most all will believe is hateful and judgemental .
But say them i will . INTERFAITH IS OF ANTI CHRIST , this all inclusive co exist judge not find common ground
ITS OF THE DEVIL NOT GOD . And i promise THAT IS A FACT .

 

[amigo de christo]

There is nothing new under the sun, is there? "Christianity" in the west has become a multimillion dollar business.

This is Mystery Babylon and her "merchants" who sell their wares, take souls captive and "trade in souls of men":

Jer 5:26-31

For among my people are found wicked men: they lay wait, as he that setteth snares; they set a trap, they catch men.

As a cage is full of birds, so are their houses full of deceit: therefore they are become great, and waxen rich.

They are waxen fat, they shine: yea, they overpass the deeds of the wicked: they judge not the cause, the cause of the fatherless, yet they prosper; and the right of the needy do they not judge.

Shall I not visit for these things? saith the LORD: shall not my soul be avenged on such a nation as this?

A wonderful and horrible thing is committed in the land;

The prophets prophesy falsely, and the priests bear rule by their means; and my people love to have it so: and what will ye do in the end thereof?

Scripture says we are to "buy the truth, but sell it not." A workman is worth his wages, yes, but that is not talking about becoming wealthy from peddling and hawking prophecies and teachings.

WHEN IT SAYS MANY false prophets , YOU BESS BELEIVE ITS MANY FALSE PROPHETS .
And when JESUS warned EVEN THE APOSTELS NOT TO BE DECIEVED that applies to us as well .
WOLVES CAN AND DO COME IN WOOL . so marvel not
if a man can come within a realm and act as though HE is for and of that realm
BUT really HE does naught but the works and the working of darkness .
DO YOU REALLY THINK for one second that the churches that sat under the liberal progressive
Could see the error of their own , even thier own politicians .
NOW take real close heed to these next words , cause we got a major deciever and decievers at work
AND NOT JUST ON THE LEFT BUT ON THE RIGHT .
YA really THINK the nar realm is for the people they teach , OR are they really in it FOR THEIR OWN gains .
DO you really think it so hard also
for a man to come and rise up and speak against the very evils of the liberal realm
AND YET HE DOES ITS BIDDING with interfaith . OH ITS NOT HARD .
WOLVES do come in as though they are OF the ones they fleecing and they can and will speak
evil against the other side , YET CAN BE DOING ITS WILL ALL ALONG .
TRUMP AINT GONNA SAVE ANYONE , HE IS JUDGMENT UPON the evangelicals
HE is the delusion and judgment of GOD allowed UPON the protesetant evangelical realm
FOR THEY , AS DID THEY LIBERAL REALM , REFUSED TO HEAR HIS CALL , REFUSED TO REPENT
And now all will be lead to the lie . NOW when i say all , BE SURE TO KNOW ITS NOT THOSE IN THE LAMBS BOOK OF LIFE
its those who followed another jesus and another god . And if i didnt love the peoples
BELIEVE YOU ME i would not even bother to warn them .
YOU DO REALIZE that all these years i have warned , IT HAS COST ME to be hated .
Its not like i got rich preaching what i did . BUT YET i am RICH and THANK GOD HE HAS ME PREACHING IT
and NOT CONFORMING .

 

[PS95]

I did.

I don't doubt you.

 

[PS95]

The apostles don’t talk about his future return because they knew his return was the second coming. What’s happening is that you’re taking every mention of Jesus coming as a future second coming. I’m sure you’ll tell me the verse below is talking about a future second coming but it’s not, in fact it’s proving to us that it is NOT a future second because (if we believe the Bible EXACTLY as written) Paul is telling you loud and clear that when the Lord comes PAUL will be alive and remaining.

1Th 4:15 For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep

Paul is talking about the same coming as these verses.

Mat 16:28 Verily I say unto you, There be some standing here, which shall not taste of death, till they see the Son of man coming in his kingdom.

Mat 10:23 But when they persecute you in this city, flee ye into another: for verily I say unto you, Ye shall not have gone over the cities of Israel, till the Son of man be come.

Mat 26:64 Jesus saith unto him, Thou hast said: nevertheless I say unto you, Hereafter shall ye see the Son of man sitting on the right hand of power, and coming in the clouds of heaven.

The apostles DO talk about His future return! You can't be serious here?
I have heard of preterists but not this one..
Matt 16:28 is speaking about the transfiguration- that's all
Matt 16:28 is a good one and one I have questioned myself- BUT I would not ever say the resurrection was His 2nd coming and the apostles clearly did not think or teach that either.
Matt 26:64- He wasn't saying to take that literally but, beginning now, and is continued forever..

Listen to me bro, we have very clear statements made by the angel, and the apostles (Paul, James, John, Peter) who all expected His return.
With so many clear statements like these- you need to really alter your view on the above. Always go with what is CLEAR before trying to understand what is not.-- Here are some--
Acts 1:11
1 Cor 11:26
1 Cor 1:7-8
col 3:4
Rev 3:3
Rev 22:12
titus 2:3
Heb 9:28
2Tim 4:8
2 Peter 3:10
2 Peter 3:11-12
james 5:7-8
1 Thes 5:2
1 Thes 4:16-17
1 John 3:2-3
phil 3:2-21

 

[IndianaRob]

The apostles DO talk about His future return! You can't be serious here?
I have heard of preterists but not this one..
Matt 16:28 is speaking about the transfiguration- that's all
Matt 16:28 is a good one and one I have questioned myself- BUT I would not ever say the resurrection was His 2nd coming and the apostles clearly did not think or teach that either.
Matt 26:64- He wasn't saying to take that literally but, beginning now, and is continued forever..

Listen to me bro, we have very clear statements made by the angel, and the apostles (Paul, James, John, Peter) who all expected His return.
With so many clear statements like these- you need to really alter your view on the above. Always go with what is CLEAR before trying to understand what is not.-- Here are some--
Acts 1:11
1 Cor 11:26
1 Cor 1:7-8
col 3:4
Rev 3:3
Rev 22:12
titus 2:3
Heb 9:28
2Tim 4:8
2 Peter 3:10
2 Peter 3:11-12
james 5:7-8
1 Thes 5:2
1 Thes 4:16-17
1 John 3:2-3
phil 3:2-21

Let’s discuss the clear passages where angels or the apostles were expecting a future return of Christ.

 

[Behold]

When they graduate, the supporting denomination requires them to sign an agreement.

What you posted doesn't really happen.
Actually the person who is a part of a denomination, in general, will go to that specific denomination's seminary to become a Minister for that Denomination.
So, they are steeped in that teaching, and would want to teach that particular denomination's charter theology, as otherwise they would not be there.

This is to prevent them from preaching anything not approved by the denomination.

What you wrote, doesn't really happen., as the person is already trained in that denominations theology.......and their Seminar is the same theology, and the reason they are there is because this Theology, is what they believe.

If God wants them to speak outside of that, they risk being blacklisted by the denomination.

If the Minister feels that his Denominations theology is not what he wants to continue.......then he'd resign.
This is rare, because He's already spent His life in service to this denomination.. more then likely.. as .Its where he was going to church, and then the Seminary is the same Theology.

Some will hold a secular job to be out from under the thumb of a denomination.

What you wrote is just your bizarre imagination.
You are making this up, because that is your reason to be on the forum.

But they have to operate without the benefits of denominational support.

What you wrote, Never happens.
Listen, if you have a renegade Minister and their Local Church is connected to a Main Headquarters...then they will be asked to resign.
Even their church board is going to negotiate this, as in many cases with small denominations, its the actual church board along with the congregation who voted Him in for the Job.
Now, if its a large denomination, then what they do, is they move their ministers around......quite a bit.
And they also initially choose all the Ministers for one of their Local Churches.

Leadership in a church like that is sketchy.

What is "sketchy" is the absolute nonsense you tend to post and Thread.

 

[Behold]

There is nothing new under the sun, is there? "Christianity" in the west has become a multimillion dollar business.

See the "Catholic Church" for the 1500 yr old rule book regarding "how to keep your people as slaves in spiritual darkness while you rake in the billions from their bank accounts and tithes and offerings.".

 

[PS95]

There is nothing new under the sun, is there? "Christianity" in the west has become a multimillion dollar business.

This is Mystery Babylon and her "merchants" who sell their wares, take souls captive and "trade in souls of men":

Jer 5:26-31

For among my people are found wicked men: they lay wait, as he that setteth snares; they set a trap, they catch men.

As a cage is full of birds, so are their houses full of deceit: therefore they are become great, and waxen rich.

They are waxen fat, they shine: yea, they overpass the deeds of the wicked: they judge not the cause, the cause of the fatherless, yet they prosper; and the right of the needy do they not judge.

Shall I not visit for these things? saith the LORD: shall not my soul be avenged on such a nation as this?

A wonderful and horrible thing is committed in the land;

The prophets prophesy falsely, and the priests bear rule by their means; and my people love to have it so: and what will ye do in the end thereof?

Scripture says we are to "buy the truth, but sell it not." A workman is worth his wages, yes, but that is not talking about becoming wealthy from peddling and hawking prophecies and teachings.

Hey Lizbeth,
Yes TV preachers are filthy rich-
BUT pastors in a zillion churches in everyday towns are not. WHY make it sound as if they are?
We need to be more careful of our statements.

 

[PS95]

Let’s discuss the clear passages where angels or the apostles were expecting a future return of Christ.

start a thread on it if you like. I don't want to hijack further

 

[PS95]

See the "Catholic Church" for the 1500 yr old rule book regarding "how to keep your people as slaves in spiritual darkness while you rake in the billions from their bank accounts and tithes and offerings.".

Televangelists are not Catholics. This has to do with individuals.

 

[PS95]

Many need to see these words again . Because many be beleiving and thinking
that false men and women of belial are blessed of GOD cause they got so much money .
How about we brings another psalm as well that helps to explain this SLIPPERY SLOPE .
GO YE INTO THE TABERNACLE OF GOD and SEE THEIR END . I had nigh well slipped , i was envious
at how the wicked seemed to prosper said The writer of that pslam , TILL I WENT INTO THE TABERNACLE OF GOD
and SAW THEIR END . what a slipper slope indeed . THE BEST LIFE sellers have no idea
nor do those who sit under them , WHAT THEIR END WILL BE on the DAY OF THE LORD .
THEY wax RICH indeed . RICH IN MONEY , BUT BIG TIME POOR IN FAITH .
The nar realm is of upmost darkness , as is the RCC and scores of others like mormon , jw and many others now .
That might seem like the words of a man who has naught but hate for people
But it is out of concern FOR THEM that i do speak such words .
SO allow me some words , I KNOW most all will believe is hate speech
most all will believe is hateful and judgemental .
But say them i will . INTERFAITH IS OF ANTI CHRIST , this all inclusive co exist judge not find common ground
ITS OF THE DEVIL NOT GOD . And i promise THAT IS A FACT .

When you say interfaith- what do you mean exactly? Of course Christians should have no fellowship with Muslims, Hindu., Buddists etc.. but what do you mean specifically? I ask because every crazy teaching is on these forums..
So what do you mean by that?

 

[Lizbeth]

Hey Lizbeth,
Yes TV preachers are filthy rich-
BUT pastors in a zillion churches in everyday towns are not. WHY make it sound as if they are?
We need to be more careful of our statements.

Those big name preachers have zillions of followers. I'm showing by the word of God how the false big names in Christendom follow the pattern of scripture. False sold-out Christianity is Mystery Babylon (as was/is false sold-out Judaism), in bed with the beast and world. Also true to the pattern of Israel and word of God, there is only a remnant who are true. Those big name people have been and are leading countless younger and smaller names astray. The younger newer ones try to copy the big names, they think that is "Christianity" because they've been brought up with and deceived by the big names. They believe material "prosperity" is a sign of God's approval and favour, whether they succeed to accumulate as much filthy lucre as the bigger names or not.