When the Pulpit Becomes a Paycheck

[Muna]

Like the moselms paying liberals in the US to embrace marxism?

I am not speaking of money given to a political party but of monies of a foreign nation, who do not confess Jesus Christ as Lord and are declared enemies of the gospel buying the mouths of leaders in the Church that belong specifically to Jesus Christ.

I cannot say whether its equal to thirty pieces of silver because of inflation. So I did a search

The value of thirty pieces of silver today depends on the method of calculation. If valued solely by the silver content, estimates vary based on the type of coin used. Using the Tyrian shekel, which weighed about 14 grams with 94% purity, the total silver content of 30 coins is approximately 394.8 grams (12.7 troy ounces). At a spot price of $25 per troy ounce, the silver value would be around $317.50. Other estimates using different silver prices and coin types range from $116 to $550, depending on the assumed weight, purity, and current silver market rates.

However, the purchasing power of the coins in ancient times provides a different perspective. In the first century AD, 30 pieces of silver were equivalent to about four months' wages for a skilled laborer. Applying this to modern wages, the value could be estimated between $16,000 and $25,000, reflecting the relative economic power of the sum at the time.

 

[Muna]

I think its alot less

Israel to spend up to $4.1M in bid to bolster support among Christians in western US

Federal filings show Foreign Ministry hired US firm to run campaign targeting churchgoers with digital ads, mobile 'Oct. 7th Experience'

www.timesofisrael.com

I clicked on that, that was not a good idea in my case but at least it is the Times of Israel

 

[amigo de christo]

The Bible teaches that a worker deserves his wages.
But I think a lot of these guys like Copeland are over the top.

Beware the entire realm called nar and their prosperity love for money .
They have now even sold their flocks out to the all inclusive ecumenical h arlot .

 

[amigo de christo]

I am not speaking of money given to a political party but of monies of a foreign nation, who do not confess Jesus Christ as Lord and are declared enemies of the gospel buying the mouths of leaders in the Church that belong specifically to Jesus Christ.

I cannot say whether its equal to thirty pieces of silver because of inflation. So I did a search

The value of thirty pieces of silver today depends on the method of calculation. If valued solely by the silver content, estimates vary based on the type of coin used. Using the Tyrian shekel, which weighed about 14 grams with 94% purity, the total silver content of 30 coins is approximately 394.8 grams (12.7 troy ounces). At a spot price of $25 per troy ounce, the silver value would be around $317.50. Other estimates using different silver prices and coin types range from $116 to $550, depending on the assumed weight, purity, and current silver market rates.

However, the purchasing power of the coins in ancient times provides a different perspective. In the first century AD, 30 pieces of silver were equivalent to about four months' wages for a skilled laborer. Applying this to modern wages, the value could be estimated between $16,000 and $25,000, reflecting the relative economic power of the sum at the time.

Verily oh verily , truly truly MANY have now been bought and paid and have sold CHRIST and HIS GOSPEL out .
It has spread like wild fire on dry grass in high winds with gasoline as rains .

 

[Behold]

The Bible teaches that a worker deserves his wages.

God's Grace does not requrie works, for blessing.......as if it did then it would not be God's Grace.

God is always giving His born again favor......including income.

Employers give wages.....God gives Grave, Favor, and Increase.

"Its God who gives us the power to get wealth". Its God who blesses everything "we set our hands to".

God is in the Supply Ministry, not the Subtraction Ministry.

Lets say that God called you to be a Missionary.
Then He'll supply all your needs "according to His RICHES in Glory".
He'll finance you, He'll supply you, as that is what He does.
God never says...>"Go".. and "good luck".
No, He makes the way for you, He gives you what you need to succeed.

But I think a lot of these guys like Copeland are over the top.

The problem isn't the teaching on Prosperity.....the issue is........that some of these people.......they prey on people's poverty by telling them to give into their ministry to see their poverty disappear.
So, This teaches a wrong understanding.
The right understanding is..... everything we have belongs to God, and He is letting us use it, and enjoy it.
WE are STEWARDS.......not Owners.
So, when we give, we are giving BACK to GOD, as Its all His anyway.

Why do we give expecting a return?
Because that is FAITH.
Its because we know that God is LIFE.....>He is Increase..........and when we give, we are giving to Him what is already His, and He returns it with increase because everything with God is LIFE.

 

[Big Boy Johnson]

The problem isn't the teaching on Prosperity.....

So how many Jets do you have now?

 

[Behold]

So how many Jets do you have now?

Try posting something that represents you better...

 

[Big Boy Johnson]

Try posting something that represents you better...

OK, how many luxury homes do you have now?

If you are going to advocate for prosperity, the folks would like to know what level of this world's wealth you are at.

 

[Behold]

If you are going to advocate for prosperity

Of course i'll "advocate for prosperity"., as only a brain dead fool would advocate for the opposite.

Of course i'll give God credit for blessing His Children with blessings, including money..... and only a deceived heretic would deny it.

God tells us to give to the Poor, and if you have no money, you can't give them any.
I believe that its good to Tithe, and to give Offerings......and if you are broke, you can't.

Prosperity, that is ordained by God, is not just money.....its health, its relationships, its creativity, its ideas, its divine inspiriation, its MINISTRY, and so much more.

 

[Big Boy Johnson]

OK good.... sounds like you aren't heaping up so much wealth you have to build bigger barns

 

[Marvelloustime]

This people on the left , this people on the right
this people on the liberal churches , this people in the conservative churches .
THEY DO NOT CARE FOR YOU . THIS IS FOR THEM ALL and promises have been given and made .
THEY DONT CARE FOR THE SHEEP , THEY DO NOT EVEN care for humanity either .
WE BEING DUPED with a double D DECIEVE and yet many seem to love to have it so .
But what will they do IN THE END . WAIL and lots of it is what they will do ON THE DAY OF THE LORD .
this sheep gonna warn, and warn while we still have the time . cause that ol door
IS GONNA SHUT . And all outside shall wail .

@amigo de christo

 

[Traveler]

There is a difference between Christ serving and Christ selling

 

[amigo de christo]

There is a difference between Christ serving and Christ selling

Just as there is a difference between JESUS and another jesus .
Many now suckle from the teets of a harlot and have no idea they do so my friend .
Bible time for all .

 

[Marvelloustime]

Just as there is a difference between JESUS and another jesus .
Many now suckle from the teets of a harlot and have no idea they do so my friend .
Bible time for all .

@amigo de christo

 

[Big Boy Johnson]

There is a difference between Christ serving and Christ selling

How much are you charging for your version of "christ"

 

[Muna]

So much for you cannot serve two masters !

Matt 6:24 No man can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon.

Fact is in recent years we now have Christ sellers not Christ servants.

Beautifully put, you can see a pattern of this in scripture also

Of Judas, it says, that

John 12:6 he was a thief, who said to these

Matt 26:15 And said unto them, What will ye give me, and I will deliver him unto you? And they covenanted with him for thirty pieces of silver.

Love of money, who took part in the ministry, from which Judas by transgression fell

Says here also

Deut 24:7 If a man be found stealing any of his brethren of the children of Israel, and maketh merchandise of him, or selleth him;
then that thief shall die; and thou shalt put evil away from among you.

Sold Jesus out, took money to betray Jesus who IS the truth

John 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth

Tells us buy the truth and sell it not

Prov 23:23 Buy the truth, and sell it not; also wisdom, and instruction, and understanding.

Buying and selling revolving around Jesus (who is the truth) even of the Spirit of truth

Acts 8:18 And when Simon saw that through laying on of the apostles' hands the Holy Ghost was given, he offered them money,

Acts 8:19 Saying, Give me also this power, that on whomsoever I lay hands, he may receive the Holy Ghost.

Servant of Christ here

Acts 8:20 But Peter said unto him, Thy money perish with thee, because thou hast thought that the gift of God may be purchased with money.

 

[amigo de christo]

Matt 6:24 No man can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon.



Beautifully put, you can see a pattern of this in scripture also

Of Judas, it says, that

John 12:6 he was a thief, who said to these

Matt 26:15 And said unto them, What will ye give me, and I will deliver him unto you? And they covenanted with him for thirty pieces of silver.

Love of money, who took part in the ministry, from which Judas by transgression fell

Says here also

Deut 24:7 If a man be found stealing any of his brethren of the children of Israel, and maketh merchandise of him, or selleth him;
then that thief shall die; and thou shalt put evil away from among you.

Sold Jesus out, took money to betray Jesus who IS the truth

John 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth

Tells us buy the truth and sell it not

Prov 23:23 Buy the truth, and sell it not; also wisdom, and instruction, and understanding.

Buying and selling revolving around Jesus (who is the truth) even of the Spirit of truth

Acts 8:18 And when Simon saw that through laying on of the apostles' hands the Holy Ghost was given, he offered them money,

Acts 8:19 Saying, Give me also this power, that on whomsoever I lay hands, he may receive the Holy Ghost.

Servant of Christ here

Acts 8:20 But Peter said unto him, Thy money perish with thee, because thou hast thought that the gift of God may be purchased with money.

what a lovely reminder , and HOW you even used the holy words in t orah to show us .
SO ,
yeah you knew a question was coming .
SO h ow come folks pick and choose what OLD test scrips to use
and yet clearly omit others .
Not saying you do that . but WHY IS IT
some can quoate certain things f rom the old scriptures
and yet turn around and hate on a man
FOR BRINGING US the old reminder of
YE SHALL NOT HATE your neighbor in your heart , YOU SHALL CORRECT HIM and NOT ALLOW SIN upon him .

I mean how come that is so false . OH wait i know , caus e it gets in the way of their judge not correct not love . which
I KNOW IS HATE . thanks for reminding us of this my friend . hope you hear my reminder too .

 

[amigo de christo]

Matt 6:24 No man can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon.



Beautifully put, you can see a pattern of this in scripture also

Of Judas, it says, that

John 12:6 he was a thief, who said to these

Matt 26:15 And said unto them, What will ye give me, and I will deliver him unto you? And they covenanted with him for thirty pieces of silver.

Love of money, who took part in the ministry, from which Judas by transgression fell

Says here also

Deut 24:7 If a man be found stealing any of his brethren of the children of Israel, and maketh merchandise of him, or selleth him;
then that thief shall die; and thou shalt put evil away from among you.

Sold Jesus out, took money to betray Jesus who IS the truth

John 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth

Tells us buy the truth and sell it not

Prov 23:23 Buy the truth, and sell it not; also wisdom, and instruction, and understanding.

Buying and selling revolving around Jesus (who is the truth) even of the Spirit of truth

Acts 8:18 And when Simon saw that through laying on of the apostles' hands the Holy Ghost was given, he offered them money,

Acts 8:19 Saying, Give me also this power, that on whomsoever I lay hands, he may receive the Holy Ghost.

Servant of Christ here

Acts 8:20 But Peter said unto him, Thy money perish with thee, because thou hast thought that the gift of God may be purchased with money.

reread acts eight and twenty .
THEN know and understand , THE NAR REAL prosperity preachers , OH DEAR they in deady trouble indeed

 

[amigo de christo]

SEND nineteen ninety nine and ye son or daugher shall be healed
OH send us A pslam etc donation , and ye shall be blessed .
Paula white and them folks are FALSE . workers of belial belch i ng out dung to this people . DO NOT wait
for an apology nor hold thy breath for one . I expose the workers of darkness .

 

[Muna]

what a lovely reminder , and HOW you even used the holy words in t orah to show us .
SO ,
yeah you knew a question was coming .
SO h ow come folks pick and choose what OLD test scrips to use
and yet clearly omit others .
Not saying you do that . but WHY IS IT
some can quoate certain things f rom the old scriptures
and yet turn around and hate on a man
FOR BRINGING US the old reminder of
YE SHALL NOT HATE your neighbor in your heart , YOU SHALL CORRECT HIM and NOT ALLOW SIN upon him .

I mean how come that is so false . OH wait i know , caus e it gets in the way of their judge not correct not love . which
I KNOW IS HATE . thanks for reminding us of this my friend . hope you hear my reminder too .

Peace...

Son of perdition shown in two places also

John 17:12 While I was with them in the world, I kept them in thy name: those that thou gavest me I have kept, and none of them is lost, but the son of perdition; that the scripture might be fulfilled.

Who was Judas, for money

Mark 14:10 And Judas Iscariot, one of the twelve, went unto the chief priests, to betray him unto them.

Selling out Jesus Christ (Who is the truth) to these

Mark 14:11 And when they heard it, they were glad, and promised to give him money. And he sought how he might conveniently betray him.

Who would do this?

John 13:25 He then lying on Jesus' breast saith unto him, Lord, who is it?

John 13:26 Jesus answered, He it is, to whom I shall give a sop, when I have dipped it. And when he had dipped the sop, he gave it to Judas Iscariot, the son of Simon.

The son of perdition was numbered among his own disciples

Acts 1:17 For he was numbered with us, and had obtained part of this ministry.

And the same which covenanted with Judas to betray Jesus and suppress the truth concerning the resurrection of Christ offered money here as well

Matt 28:12 And when they were assembled with the elders, and had taken counsel, they gave large money unto the soldiers,

Matt 28:13 Saying, Say ye, His disciples came by night, and stole him away while we slept.

Matt 28:14 And if this come to the governor's ears, we will persuade him, and secure you.

Two places where the son of perdition is mentioned, in Judas (who had part in his ministry) and then here

2 Thes 2:3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first,
and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;