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To be honest...I see the deception in YOU!!!!

For example you only posted a portion of what I said...that is...."NO...we don't have to obey and surrender."

What I said was the following...and you snipped off the beginning and presented it under a false context.

Here is what I said...
No one completely surrenders or completely obeys. In that sense ...NO...we don't have to obey and surrender.

Respond to that in its entirety. Stop creating a false witness.
There is no false witness. The statement "NO...we don't have to obey and surrender." was the deception I was dealing with. That is the core tenet of a false gospel.
 

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He who says he abides in Christ ought to walk even as He walked.

Sinless perfection is in Christ. Those who enter into Him show forth HIS perfection. Walking IN Him..... In Him is no sin.

Until we personally enter into Christ we can still FOLLOW Christ from whatever distance we are comfortable with.
Are you saying you no longer sin?
 

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There is no false witness. The statement "NO...we don't have to obey and surrender." was the deception I was dealing with. That is the core tenet of a false gospel.
You deliberately took me out of context. Do it again and you will be reported for bearing a false witness against me. Got it?
 

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Because we are not good shepherd, Only Jesus Christ.
that is a beautiful statement and as such it is agreed upon my friend .
WE are NOT JESUS THE CHRIST .
However , my friend many sure seem within christendom to be following another jesus .
And friend , that one cannot save them . its as false as is the religion of islam , buddism and any other ism an religoin .
The devil can wear wool and so too can his many many many teachers .
You wanna honestly learn about JESUS . DO you truly seek to know the TRUTH .
THEN OPEN THE BIBLE and pray to GOD in JESUS NAME and b eg in to feast again upon
ALL , not most , not some , BUT ALL THINGS HE SAID as well as the words even the apostels lef t us in said bible .
TO INCLUDE from page one of genesis to page last one in revelation .
NEVER HEED any who says the bible is too complicated for one to learn , LEST of course
they sit under them ,their greek , their context , their hermes and whatever else they say .
YOU READ and YOU H EED them words and continually pray to GOD in JESUS NAME for wisdom .
FOR ONE Reason . and one reason alone . TO SIMPLY be able to walk as HE DID
to be lowly and humble and to serve GOD faithfully as we should by THE POWER OF HIS SPIRIT .
DO this and ye shall learn . HEED MEN and emotions and you will , as will many , WAIL ON JESUS DAY .
that is about as clear as i can make it . do notice two things .
NOTICE WHO i pointed too and WHO I DID NOT POINT TOO .
I POINTED TO CHRIST JESUS and THAT BIBLE
I DID NOT POINT TO ME or to men; . LEARN THAT WELL or prepare only to fail .
THE inclusive god is satan , any god that contradicts HIS gospel , his words , IS NOT GOD it is the devil .
And the devil can and do lie , he can even say GOD IS LOVE as he makes the path to GOD very broad and inclusive .
 
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Are you saying you no longer sin?
OF COURSE HE DOES and not only does HE sin
he commits the greatest sin of all .
THE MAN preaches unbelief .
Stunned yet ......
IF you do not understand why i say that
THEN PERHAPS you need to read what he tells atheists and others
THEN when i came on such a place and DID preach to this athiest
That he needs to REPENT and BELIEVE ON JESUS ,
this so called mighty warrior of who he thinks is GOD ,
called my preaching of the gospel , RELGIOUS EXTREMISM .
MEANING HE WOULD HAVE CALLED JESUS and every apostel the same .
DOES HE SIN .
DOES HE SIN .
YES AND HE COMMITS THE ONE SIN from which there can be NO FORGIVNESS OF SINS .
FOR I told you that if you BELIEVE NOT THAT I AM HE , YE SHALL DIE IN YOUR SINS . HE OMITS THIS .
HE OMITS THE GOSPEL man . HE is an inclusivain .
 

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You deliberately took me out of context. Do it again and you will be reported for bearing a false witness against me. Got it?
just relax a bit my friend . THEY ALWAYS DO THIS .
And if you think that is the worst i have had to face with many who even dare to call themselves by the prescious name
OF JESUS a christain , THEN sit down and hear this .
I have been called and called names i have , by so called christains for simply refusing
to accept sins , false doctrine ,
and for simply preaching the absolute dire need to BELIEVE ON JESUS
Even names like satan , liar , hater , monster , devil , and even names
i cannot repeat in the presence of the living . MANY names that add up to real bad FOUR LETTER WORDS
though not all of them have been four lettered .
WE gots to toughen up my friend . cause not only that , but i have been banned f rom places
and even put into a digital ghetto for exposing the work of a harlot .
AND STILL we aint see nothing yet .
Words on a screen , very mild persecution.
WAIT Till AI enforces by means of the digital system the will of the inclusive god upon this entire world .
IT wont just be words , it will be unable to buy or sell
IT will be knocks upon our doors for reeducation and death camps
AI can do this . it can route any conversation deemed as non inclusive , deemed as what it was programed
to see as religious extermism , to any data base and then to any local p olice station .
DOES THIS SOUND familiar .
IF N OT
Hear this . And he had POWER to give LIFE unto the IMAGE , so that the image could speak , HELLO AI
and cause that as many as would not worship the image
to be killed .
AND HE causes ALL both small and great , both poor and rich , to recieve a mark in his right hand or forehead
and that no man might buy or sell save he that HAD the mark ........................ITS HERE and soon will enforce
the law of its inclusive god upon all .
 

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You deliberately took me out of context. Do it again and you will be reported for bearing a false witness against me. Got it?
"NO...we don't have to obey and surrender" was the conclusion of your statement. It was the sum total of what you were saying, as such, it is not out of context. Did you say it or not? A yes or no will suffice.

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You are making a whole salvational argument out of one verse you misunderstand.

In response I can easily say...Romans 3:11 There is no one who understands, no one who seeks God.
HE , as in epi
IS
INCLUSIVIAN .
the fastest growing religoin within all false religoins as well as within christendom .
AND ITS A MERGER .
HE believes a lie . a lie that negates the gospel , that negates and makes void THE TRUTH .
but can use truths , as do and can the serpent to spread a lie .
And not just any lie . THE LIE by which if one believes
THERE IS NO FORGIVENSS OF SINS and their end the lake of fire .
THEY beleive even the false religoins are under the power of the ONE TRUE HOLY SPIRIT
without even having to beleive THE GOSPEL , without even having to believe that JESUS IS THE CHRIST .
I know all about inclusivism . I learned about it in the library .
bUT HOW easily it can be exposed .
FOR NO MAN BY THE HOLY SPIRIT would call JESUS accursed , as does EVERY SINGLE FALSE RELIGION
and if ONE HAD THE HOLY GHOST they would have called HIM LORD . they had beleived on HIM .
GOD dont draw us to false religoins and good works .
GOD dont draw us to a religoin that makes void the dire necessity to have to FIRST bELIEVE ON JESUS .
HE DRAWS US TO BELIEF , TO FAITH IN JESUS . these inclusivains can and do lie
and they can sound like they have a big time form of godliness
and yet DENY The power of GOD .
FOR the gospel of CHRIST is teh POWER of GOD unto all who do BELIEVE . only every time
i try and remind epi that one must FIRST B ELIEVE , HE SHUNS THIS
and not only that
HE called it religious extremism when i preached this gosepl TO an atheist . our persecution iS coming my friend .
 

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To abide in Christ means to continue, not to depart, remain in a living relationship with Jesus Christ. To walk as Jesus is to walk in love, shaping our obedience and actions to mirror the character and behavior of Christ while He was on earth. This we ought to as our reasonable service and moral obligation.

Our perfection is found in Christ and not in ourselves. (Romans 4:5-6; 2 Corinthians 5:21; Philippians 3:9)

All born again Christians (believers) are members of the body of Christ. (Romans 12:4-5; 1 Corinthians 12:13, 27; Ephesians 1:13-14)
mail man dan . you dont realize the man you are debating with IS INCLUSIVIAN .
And that means they believe that even if one does not beleive on , call upon the very name of JESUS
and beleive HE was crucified for our sins and rose again the third day ,
THEY ARE STILL FOLLOWING JESUS if they so called keep the two commandments .
TO LOVE GOD and your neighbor .
YOU SEE the hyprocisy yet . HOW can any one in any false religoin
let alone an athiest an agonostic
EvEN LOVE GOD if they REJECT HIS CHRIST .
THEY ARE DEcIEVED mail man dan . And this is teh fastest growing mindset
amongst even christendom .
You all need to examine this epi . go about and watch what he even tells
athiests and others . HE WONT preach the dire need to repent and BELIEVE ON JESUS .
HE preaches works. even telling an athiest
ITS okay so long as you recieve a righteous man ye shall recieve a righteous mans reward .
AGAIN totally twisting what JESUS said to fit a lie .
AND mr mail man dan , and YOU GO and YOU LOOK and see
that when i did show up on that thread
and I DID remind the athiest OF HIS DIRE NEED TO REPENT AND BELIEVE ON JESUS
EPI cALLED IT RELIGOIUS Extremism . THE VERY GOSPEL is now under attack
as if RELGIOIUS extremism . I TRIED TO TELL US all
this is where it was going . The all inclusive eucmeinal harlot has lied to all .
 
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just relax a bit my friend . THEY ALWAYS DO THIS .
And if you think that is the worst i have had to face with many who even dare to call themselves by the prescious name
OF JESUS a christain , THEN sit down and hear this .
I have been called and called names i have , by so called christains for simply refusing
to accept sins , false doctrine ,
and for simply preaching the absolute dire need to BELIEVE ON JESUS
Even names like satan , liar , hater , monster , devil , and even names
i cannot repeat in the presence of the living . MANY names that add up to real bad FOUR LETTER WORDS
though not all of them have been four lettered .
WE gots to toughen up my friend . cause not only that , but i have been banned f rom places
and even put into a digital ghetto for exposing the work of a harlot .
AND STILL we aint see nothing yet .
Words on a screen , very mild persecution.
WAIT Till AI enforces by means of the digital system the will of the inclusive god upon this entire world .
IT wont just be words , it will be unable to buy or sell
IT will be knocks upon our doors for reeducation and death camps
AI can do this . it can route any conversation deemed as non inclusive , deemed as what it was programed
to see as religious extermism , to any data base and then to any local p olice station .
DOES THIS SOUND familiar .
IF N OT
Hear this . And he had POWER to give LIFE unto the IMAGE , so that the image could speak , HELLO AI
and cause that as many as would not worship the image
to be killed .
AND HE causes ALL both small and great , both poor and rich , to recieve a mark in his right hand or forehead
and that no man might buy or sell save he that HAD the mark ........................ITS HERE and soon will enforce
the law of its inclusive god upon all .
He wasn't taken out of context. ""NO...we don't have to obey and surrender" was the conclusion of his statement. It's no AI or inclusion conspiracy. The fruit of faith in the gospel is obedience to the Father's will. To eliminate that is to neutralize the gospel completely.
 

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He wasn't taken out of context. ""NO...we don't have to obey and surrender" was the conclusion of his statement. It's no AI or inclusion conspiracy. The fruit of faith in the gospel is obedience to the Father's will. To eliminate that is to neutralize the gospel completely.
the problem with you and men like epi
IS that while epi talks about obediance and surrendering
HE HAS MADE VOID the dire necessity to have to FIRST BELIEVE ON JESUS .
wake up man . No man who calls preaching the dire need to believe on JESUS to an atheist , AS RELIGOIUS extremism
IS EVEN SURRENDERED or OBEYING JESUS .
JESUS TOLD THEM to preach THIS TO ALL nations .
EPI goes about to silence it . You think i kid about this .
I p reached to an athiest the dire need to repent and believe on JESUS .
Epi simply told the atheist all he needs do is receive a righteous man and he will recieve a rigtheous mans reward .
NO JESUS . NO , never heard epi once say that name nor the dire need to even BELIEVE ON JESUS .
NOW take a seat .
because i didnt tell you all of it .
WHEN I came on that thread and told that atheist of his dire need TO repent and believe on JESUS
This great king epi , called it RELGIOUS EXTREMISM . YOU want me to follow that . NEVER . I WILL DIE FIRST .
 

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To abide in Christ means to continue, not to depart, remain in a living relationship with Jesus Christ. To walk as Jesus is to walk in love, shaping our obedience and actions to mirror the character and behavior of Christ while He was on earth. This we ought to as our reasonable service and moral obligation.

Our perfection is found in Christ and not in ourselves. (Romans 4:5-6; 2 Corinthians 5:21; Philippians 3:9)

All born again Christians (believers) are members of the body of Christ. (Romans 12:4-5; 1 Corinthians 12:13, 27; Ephesians 1:13-14)
thanks for the praying sign .
NOW also remember what JOHN said .
IF any brings NOT this doctrine , you dont even let them into your house , NOR bid them God speed .
NOW listen to what paul said
IF ANY cometh and preaches another gospel
LET THEM BE ACcuRSED . i am not the monster. i expose epi and no man can stop me .
In fact if anyone preaches a false gopsel , THEY BEING ExpOSED on my watch mail man dan .
I am not the hater or the monster . JESUS WILL get the glory on my watch .
HE saved me mail man dan . GOD saved me .
TO HE I OWE ALL , AND UNBELIEF does NOT HONOR THE SON THUS NOR THE FATHER .
I am so sorry , NOT FOR MY SAKE but for their sake , that many now see me as teh hater , as non loving
just because I WONT allow a false inclusive gospel on my watch . T his generation needs to hang its head in shame
and repent .
 

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He wasn't taken out of context. ""NO...we don't have to obey and surrender" was the conclusion of his statement. It's no AI or inclusion conspiracy. The fruit of faith in the gospel is obedience to the Father's will. To eliminate that is to neutralize the gospel completely.
AND what was and is the FATHERS WILL .
TO BELIEVE .
TO BELEIVE
TO BELIEVE ON JESUS THE CHRIST AND ALL THINGS HE DID TEACH .
hey ya main man epi REJECTS the YE MUST FIRST BELIEVE ON HIM part .
I DONT tolerate nor do i allow a false gospel on my watch .
ANYMORE than i do a false jesus that accepts sins and etc .
NEITHER JESUS IS OF GOD . and its gets exposed on my watch .
 

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You had replied with..."Are you saying we don't have to obey and surrender?"
I was simply trying to figure out what you were saying.
Many people I know try to obey and surrender. They're there but not there if you know what I mean. Some times you see surrender and obedience...sometimes you don't.

No one completely surrenders or completely obeys. In that sense ...NO...we don't have to obey and surrender.

Can you (in context) be more specific about the blue?

I can imagine it creates something that easily can be misunderstood of what you meant to communicate. I guess you meant (based on some of your other posts) that nobody is without sin 24/7/365 and that you don't mean there is no obligation to obey.
 

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thanks for the praying sign .
NOW also remember what JOHN said .
IF any brings NOT this doctrine , you dont even let them into your house , NOR bid them God speed .
NOW listen to what paul said
IF ANY cometh and preaches another gospel
LET THEM BE ACcuRSED . i am not the monster. i expose epi and no man can stop me .
In fact if anyone preaches a false gopsel , THEY BEING ExpOSED on my watch mail man dan .
I am not the hater or the monster . JESUS WILL get the glory on my watch .
HE saved me mail man dan . GOD saved me .
TO HE I OWE ALL , AND UNBELIEF does NOT HONOR THE SON THUS NOR THE FATHER .
I am so sorry , NOT FOR MY SAKE but for their sake , that many now see me as teh hater , as non loving
just because I WONT allow a false inclusive gospel on my watch . T his generation needs to hang its head in shame
and repent .
I don't think you are a monster and the praying sign was for those who hold to a false gospel. pryw
 
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I don't think you are a monster and the praying sign was for those who hold to a false gospel. pryw
i thought maybe it was but was not for sure .
I can still remember the first day i found my first christain site .
It was almost five years exactly to the day i had first been called to JESUS .
I was called on may thirtieth of two thousand and six
and on may fifth of two thousand eleven found my first chritain site .
Thank GOD he put me into the bible to learn .
Did you know that by two thousand and twelve even the leader on that site
had fallen away to a lie . I was the first one banned when he did .
I truly wish folks would just read that bible.
I still remember going onto the site . I was all exicted and happy to find
some other christains .
I remember seeing so many things i had never heard of .
I soon wonderered to myself , how can so many be beleiving these things .
Wanna know the first voice i heard and what it said to me .
The voice said , no it was not audible but in my conscious ,
GO and bring the teachings of JESUS to them
and you will see they twist them . and i did , and THEY DID .
Many do not even follow JESUS my friend .
they follow men . and worse the men they follow have twisted and omitted some of the things HE did teach .
 

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Can you (in context) be more specific about the blue?

I can imagine it creates something that easily can be misunderstood of what you meant to communicate. I guess you meant (based on some of your other posts) that nobody is without sin 24/7/365 and that you don't mean there is no obligation to obey.
maybe it is what he means . maybe not .
But what i do say to one i say to all .
OPEN .
hear that lovely word and ponder on it for a bit .
OPEN
and now a word
OPEN BIBLE and may every one that names the VERY NAME OF JESUS start reading it for themselves .
 

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Can you (in context) be more specific about the blue?

I can imagine it creates something that easily can be misunderstood of what you meant to communicate. I guess you meant (based on some of your other posts) that nobody is without sin 24/7/365 and that you don't mean there is no obligation to obey.
What I presented was easily understood. One posters here felt the need to quote only half of what I said....and deceptively changed the context. Instead of apologizing they defended their sin against me.

Yes, as Christians we have an obligation to surrender and obey.
As christians we also get it wrong and sin... a lot...That sin will not keep us out of heaven as it has already been forgiven and atoned for by Jesus on the cross 2,000 years ago.
 
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What I presented was easily understood. One posters here felt the need to quote only half of what I said....and deceptively changed the context. Instead of apologizing they defended their sin against me.

Yes, as Christians we have an obligation to surrender and obey.
As christians we also get it wrong and sin... a lot...That sin will not keep us out of heaven as it has already been forgiven and atoned for by Jesus on the cross 2,000 years ago.
That's all you had to say. Why didn't you say that in the first place?