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Below is a copied article about blacks in Germany:

The fate of blacks in Nazi Germany
During the Third Reich, Germany had a small black community, yet relatively little is known about their life in the Nazi era. Deutsche Welle takes a look at survival strategies under Hitler's oppressive regime.




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A sign saying that interaction between blacks and whites degrades the race

Between 20,000 - 25,000 blacks lived in Nazi Germany under Hitler's rule. When asked about blacks in the Third Reich, Germans are most likely to talk about the Afrika Schau. In his book, "Hitler's Black Victims," American University researcher, Dr. Clarence Lusane writes that the Africa Schau was a traveling show that began in 1936. The show's owners were Juliette Tipner, whose mother was from Liberia and her white husband, Adolph Hillerkus. The aim of their spectacle was to showcase African culture in Germany.

In 1940, the Afrika Schau was taken over by the SS and Joseph Goebbels who "were hoping that it would become useful not only for propaganda and ideological purposes but also as a way to gather all the blacks in the country under one tent," writes Lusane. For blacks who joined the Afrika Schau, it became a means of survival in Nazi Germany.

Duke University historian, Dr. Tina Campt, whose research deals with the African Diaspora in Germany said that "it was possible that blacks who were involved in it used it for purposes that were not the intention of those who organized it. So if the Afrika Schau dehumanized people, there were ways that blacks involved in it could use it as an opportunity to make money, as a site to connect to other black people," she told Deutsche Welle.

However, the show was unsuccessful and was shut down in 1941. Also, it could not gather all the blacks in the country under one tent possibly because it only accepted dark-skinned blacks who appealed to the stereotype of what was considered African.

The fate of the "Rhineland Bastards"

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Afro-German Hans J. Massaquoi tried to join the Nazi youth

Most of the light-skinned blacks living in Germany during the Third Reich were of mixed blood, and a good number of them were the children of French-African occupation soldiers and German women in the Rhineland. The existence of these children is and remains common knowledge because they were mentioned in Hitler's book "Mein Kampf" ("My Struggle"). In Nazi Germany, the derogatory term, Rheinlandbastard (Rhineland Bastard), was used to describe them.

Deutsche Welle spoke to leading German historian Prof. Reiner Pommerin to find out what happened to these children. "I published a book in the 70s, which told the reader about the sterilization of mixed blood children. These were children who had been fathered by occupation forces - mostly French occupation forces," he said. His book, "Sterilisierung der Rheinlandbastarde. Das Schicksal einer farbigen deutschen Minderheit 1918 - 1937" ("Sterilization of the Rhineland Bastards: the fate of a colored German minority 1918 - 1937") publicized the sterilization of the Black minority in Nazi Germany.

Prior to the publication of the book in 1979, this information was unknown to the public. The sterilization of biracial children was carried out secretly because it went against 1938 Nazi laws and procedures. The exact numbers remain unknown, but it is estimated that 400 children of mixed blood were sterilized - most without their knowledge, Pommerin said.

Today, the fate of the "Rhineland Bastards" still remains largely unknown. The lack of public knowledge regarding their fate may have to do with the "lack of public interest in minorities," said Pommerin. Campt attributes it to the secrecy behind the sterilization program and the nature of the Afrika Schau. "It has to do with the status of the Afrika Schau as a spectacle. So that was set up as a visual spectacle that was supposed to get people to notice something as a display. In that way, it was really publicized in order to get people to think about," she said.

Recognition of the black experience in Nazi Germany

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Afro-Germans were excluded from aspects of daily life in the Nazi era

According to Campt, the major difference between the experience of blacks and that of other groups in the Third Reich is the lack of a systematic Nazi extermination plan. Moreover, because of the small number of blacks living in Germany, few people are ready to recognize that there was even a population whose experience can be discussed.

Furthermore, there is little or no support in Germany for researchers working in this area. Unlike in the United States where research on minorities is well-funded due to the legacy of the Civil Rights Movement, "black German scholars who have been doing this work for years don't necessarily get the recognition on the basis of qualifications, on the basis of whether or not they are working within a certain kind of academic scholarly structure for the study of minority cultures," Campt said.

All the same, it should be noted that even though the publication of Pommerin's book on the sterilization of the "Rhineland Bastards" did not generate much public interest at the time, it received some attention from a German politician. The member of the Social Democratic Party asked if he could obtain the names of the victims, so that they could be compensated.

Pommerin told Deutsche Welle that "(the politician) wanted to hand over 3,000 German marks ($2,190). I knew where they were living, but I didn't want to bother these people because I could tell that this was more a political interest. And I could see the TV cameras standing in front of the house in the village and money is handed over. And all of a sudden the sensation is great in the village - here is someone who had been sterilized."

Author: Chiponda Chimbelu
Editor: Rob Mudge


A couple of other groups also persecuted in Nazi Germany but seldom mentioned were the Jehovah's Witnesses [refused to serve in the military] and the Gypsies...

Very interesting, I had not heard much either. Heartwarming that he didn’t even want to bother the victims for the 3000 dm. Because it was a political cause.
3000 dm is also a joke for a compensation. Many people ended up in labor camps for many different reasons.

The hate towards Jehovahs witnesses is grotesque, that’s to this day commonly acceptable, even between Christians - it makes me sick. I love when they come by, I always evangelize to them and they love it too. Last time I was visited we prayed together and we were all moved by it. I’ve come to realize that one can’t have an impersonal relationship with God and that every man, regardless of denomination will need to surrender to Jesus. I believe that Jehovah’s Witnesses are wrong about many important theological questions, but still think some of them will make it into heaven.
Christians should really talk more about not ridiculing them.
 
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Very interesting, I had not heard much either. Heartwarming that he didn’t even want to bother the victims for the 3000 dm. Because it was a political cause.
3000 dm is also a joke for a compensation. Many people ended up in labor camps for many different reasons.

The hate towards Jehovahs witnesses is grotesque, that’s to this day commonly acceptable, even between Christians - it makes me sick. I love when they come by, I always evangelize to them and they love it too. Last time I was visited we prayed together and we were all moved by it. I’ve come to realize that one can’t have an impersonal relationship with God and that every man, regardless of denomination will need to surrender to Jesus. I believe that Jehovah’s Witnesses are wrong about many important theological questions, but still think some of them will make it into heaven.
Christians should really talk more about not ridiculing them.
The Jehovah's Witnesses in Nazi Germany, while a very small group, as a whole stood up against the Nazis as better than any of the larger groups of Germans naming themselves, Christians during that time period. Unlike the Jews, the JWs were never sought out and persecuted just because they were JWs. Rather they were pacifists as part of their belief and refused to serve in the German military services. For that many of them ended up in concentration camps and were killed.

 

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The Jehovah's Witnesses in Nazi Germany, while a very small group, as a whole stood up against the Nazis as better than any of the larger groups of Germans naming themselves, Christians during that time period. Unlike the Jews, the JWs were never sought out and persecuted just because they were JWs. Rather they were pacifists as part of their belief and refused to serve in the German military services. For that many of them ended up in concentration camps and were killed.


I read that approximately 1700 Jehovah’s witnesses died but 70.000 undesirables or repeat offenders were killed too. I think that many Christian’s were among the undesirables.
Looking at todays political scene it’s however not that surprising if supposed Christians supported Hitler back then. It seems that “Christians” of today are willing to follow any ungodly argument, if the consequences doesn’t effect themselves.

Infographic: 17 Million Fell Victim to the Nazi Regime
 
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I read that approximately 1700 Jehovah’s witnesses died but 70.000 undesirables or repeat offenders were killed too. I think that many Christian’s were among the undesirables.
Looking at todays political scene it’s however not that surprising if supposed Christians supported Hitler back then. It seems that “Christians” of today are willing to follow any ungodly argument, if the consequences doesn’t effect themselves.

Infographic: 17 Million Fell Victim to the Nazi Regime
I also would not be surprised if many of those undesirables were effectively [if not actually] excommunicated from formal church organizations because they would not go along with church positions caused by Nazi pressure? Who was considering then what Jesus would have thought about it?

Very early in his climb to power, Hitler was careful in how he dealt with the large Christian churches in Germany because he needed their support to secure his position. As he realized they were not strong in their opposition to him, he went ahead with his own programs... many outlined years before in Mein Kampf.

In a sense he handled the churches as skillfully as he later would handle France and England before the shooting war really started. When the attack on Poland finally woke them up it was already too late. Even so the churches... or?

In the USA today already, they have really changed the definition of what a Christian is in many churches. If one is looking, he may see it even among members of this little forum. How many can see the similarities?

Many years ago, laws and regulations were put into place in the USA exempting churches and church ministers from many taxes. Smaller congregations today would lose their buildings if they had to pay the property taxes most other property owners pay. When the time is right, rather than lose their property how many will yield to governmental pressure to retain what they have... materially? The larger churches may already really be on the wrong side.

Our nation has for a long time been becoming more and more like the Nazi Germany defeated in war 75 years ago... absent only so far... a Führer!
 
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I also would not be surprised if many of those undesirables were effectively [if not actually] excommunicated from formal church organizations because they would not go along with church positions caused by Nazi pressure? Who was considering then what Jesus would have thought about it?

Very early in his climb to power, Hitler was careful in how he dealt with the large Christian churches in Germany because he needed their support to secure his position. As he realized they were not strong in their opposition to him, he went ahead with his own programs... many outlined years before in Mein Kampf.

In a sense he handled the churches as skillfully as he later would handle France and England before the shooting war really started. When the attack on Poland finally woke them up it was already too late. Even so the churches... or?

In the USA today already, they have really changed the definition of what a Christian is in many churches. If one is looking, he may see it even among members of this little forum. How many can see the similarities?

Many years ago, laws and regulations were put into place in the USA exempting churches and church ministers from many taxes. Smaller congregations today would lose their buildings if they had to pay the property taxes most other property owners pay. When the time is right, rather than lose their property how many will yield to governmental pressure to retain what they have... materially? The larger churches may already really be on the wrong side.

Our nation has for a long time been becoming more and more like the Nazi Germany defeated in war 75 years ago... absent only so far... a Führer!
It is so sad, what the western world has turned to. It is the same in Denmark, we are probably not as divided as Americans, but here we only have 2% of the people claiming that Jesus died for their sins and amongst them I’m not sure that even 10% will make it to heaven. We (as Danish Christians) have become rich and comfortable, too comfortable to make other peoples problems our problems. Everyone is gathering wealth while the world is burning. I’ve grown to learn why wealthy people won’t make it, it’s not that God is against their wealth, it is because their wealth means more to them than God.
Our wealth has let us to forget why we need God. One of the best advices Jesus gave was to give everything we own away and follow him, if we can’t do that we won’t make it anyways.
It breaks my heart to see what the western Christian communities have become and how the money hungry churches are shamelessly gathering wealth to buy luxury items for people’s 10%
It is my advice, that if one gives 10% of one’s salary to God give it to someone you know needs the money. Give with love, you don’t need to give money in a church bucket, you can give to the poor, schools in your community etc.
 
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I also would not be surprised if many of those undesirables were effectively [if not actually] excommunicated from formal church organizations because they would not go along with church positions caused by Nazi pressure? Who was considering then what Jesus would have thought about it?

Very early in his climb to power, Hitler was careful in how he dealt with the large Christian churches in Germany because he needed their support to secure his position. As he realized they were not strong in their opposition to him, he went ahead with his own programs... many outlined years before in Mein Kampf.

In a sense he handled the churches as skillfully as he later would handle France and England before the shooting war really started. When the attack on Poland finally woke them up it was already too late. Even so the churches... or?

In the USA today already, they have really changed the definition of what a Christian is in many churches. If one is looking, he may see it even among members of this little forum. How many can see the similarities?

Many years ago, laws and regulations were put into place in the USA exempting churches and church ministers from many taxes. Smaller congregations today would lose their buildings if they had to pay the property taxes most other property owners pay. When the time is right, rather than lose their property how many will yield to governmental pressure to retain what they have... materially? The larger churches may already really be on the wrong side.

Our nation has for a long time been becoming more and more like the Nazi Germany defeated in war 75 years ago... absent only so far... a Führer!
Hitler himself was only a brainwashed dupe to his masters, That's a hand full of Men who truly rule and control the whole world.
They create all the propaganda and all the wars.
They are masters of all such and play this world easy as pie. They have it all sown up ! They understand human behaviour in depth and everything, they have a handle on it all, they plan everything years in advance and then just play their cards.
They have organisations set everywhere secret ones as well.

Secret society's ? how can one justify such nonsense ! such has to be the work of the Devil, what are they afraid of ? what are they trying to hide ! or oh your not good enough or worthy to be one of them ? why would I want to be in a secret organisation ? I champion openness !! I am not ashamed of what I do, to make up rules that hide my intent.

Look at the RCC they have the Jesuits order, this is linked to a Jewish branch, not to mention Jews are all through the RCC history working in the background undermining the true RCC and it's They that are all about this world, that Jesus warded us about ! They created Vatican II, such is a worldly ends Church controlled by the so called Jews.
The Powerful handful of so called Jews created WW2 for their own ends.
Such a handful of people created the Great depression, there were people waning of this creation before it all happened, they had seen all the handy work of such beforehand in History of such trash that worked to undermine and destroy the peoples of Nations. now the majority of Jew have nothing to do with the top handful of so called Jews, but being Jews they lack Grace and are enslaved Carnal dupes, but many of the Jews being devout religious know this Beast and they did not respect it, for they knew it was not worthy of God ! so they were pointing this out ! and that became a threat to the top handful and there carnal dupes ambitions. that's the 6 million ! they had to be killed because they were the greatest threat to the Bastard carnal Jew and the handful who dominates this world.

Remember that the so called Jew that took over the Vineyard and killed all of Gods Prophets, is one in the same ? so called Jew. Big difference ! but they are all called Jews or regarded as Jews by the majority in history.
But their are Jews who despise other types of Jews ? it's not just one whole big happy family as most would have you believe ! just like we have in Christianity the hatred of another denomination ? it's the same with the Jews ! but if you say that to most people they totally disregard such ! as they go ballistic if you mention or go down that path, many claiming to be Christians demand that you have no rights to talk about the subject of the Jews ? but what they are trying to do is hide everything and investigating such things is totally forbidden ! They only control the story line.
 
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It is so sad, what the western world has turned to. It is the same in Denmark, we are probably not as divided as Americans, but here we only have 2% of the people claiming that Jesus died for their sins and amongst them I’m not sure that even 10% will make it to heaven. We (as Danish Christians) have become rich and comfortable, too comfortable to make other peoples problems our problems. Everyone is gathering wealth while the world is burning. I’ve grown to learn why wealthy people won’t make it, it’s not that God is against their wealth, it is because their wealth means more to them than God.
Our wealth has let us to forget why we need God. One of the best advices Jesus gave was to give everything we own away and follow him, if we can’t do that we won’t make it anyways.
It breaks my heart to see what the western Christian communities have become and how the money hungry churches are shamelessly gathering wealth to buy luxury items for people’s 10%
It is my advice, that if one gives 10% of one’s salary to God give it to someone you know needs the money. Give with love, you don’t need to give money in a church bucket, you can give to the poor, schools in your community etc.
Too many people have had too much of the material goods [money or mammon] for too long. Can many or any of us recall any really hard times according to the flesh?

Are not most of us on this forum rich in a great many worldly things? How many of us love God so much that we would walk on with Him if all the money and all of the worldly comforts were all gone in this instant?

"Then said Jesus unto his disciples, Verily I say unto you, That a rich man shall hardly enter into the kingdom of heaven.
And again I say unto you, It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God." Matt 19:23-24

Compared to people I met in Viet Nam, the Dominican Republic and Mexico, we are very rich indeed. If any of us on this forum do not have anything really needed for our flesh, is there not some government agency or community or group that will supply it?
 

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They crucified Christ and Hitler saw that as an act that was punishable by death.

I have never heard that this was Hitler's reason.
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Hitler could not care less who crucified Christ.
And he was not a Christian as some people think he was.
(You shall know them by their fruits.)
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Hitler was born in Austria in 1889. He developed his political ideas in Vienna, a city with a large Jewish community, where he lived from 1907 to 1913. In those days, Vienna had a mayor who was very anti-Jewish, and hatred of Jews was very common in the city.

During the First World War (1914-1918), Hitler was a soldier in the German army. At the end of the war he, and many other German soldiers like him, could not get over the defeat of the German Empire. The German army command spread the myth that the army had not lost the war on the battlefield, but because they had been betrayed. By a ‘stab in the back’, as it was called at the time. Hitler bought into the myth: Jews and communists had betrayed the country and brought a left-wing government to power that had wanted to throw in the towel.
 
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Too many people have had too much of the material goods [money or mammon] for too long. Can many or any of us recall any really hard times according to the flesh?

Are not most of us on this forum rich in a great many worldly things? How many of us love God so much that we would walk on with Him if all the money and all of the worldly comforts were all gone in this instant?

"Then said Jesus unto his disciples, Verily I say unto you, That a rich man shall hardly enter into the kingdom of heaven.
And again I say unto you, It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God." Matt 19:23-24

Compared to people I met in Viet Nam, the Dominican Republic and Mexico, we are very rich indeed. If any of us on this forum do not have anything really needed for our flesh, is there not some government agency or community or group that will supply it?
We are privileged but some people have much more than they need. The fact that they don’t give it away to the poor, is simply a sign of a bad fruit.
 

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Very early in his climb to power, Hitler was careful in how he dealt with the large Christian churches in Germany because he needed their support to secure his position. As he realized they were not strong in their opposition to him, he went ahead with his own programs... many outlined years before in Mein Kampf.

In a sense he handled the churches as skillfully as he later would handle France and England before the shooting war really started. When the attack on Poland finally woke them up it was already too late. Even so the churches... or?

A good book about this situation in Germany is the Dietrich Bonnhoefer biography.
 
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Hitler himself was only a brainwashed dupe to his masters, That's a hand full of Men who truly rule and control the whole world.
They create all the propaganda and all the wars.
They are masters of all such and play this world easy as pie. They have it all sown up ! They understand human behaviour in depth and everything, they have a handle on it all, they plan everything years in advance and then just play their cards.
They have organisations set everywhere secret ones as well.

Secret society's ? how can one justify such nonsense ! such has to be the work of the Devil, what are they afraid of ? what are they trying to hide ! or oh your not good enough or worthy to be one of them ? why would I want to be in a secret organisation ? I champion openness !! I am not ashamed of what I do, to make up rules that hide my intent.

Look at the RCC they have the Jesuits order, this is linked to a Jewish branch, not to mention Jews are all through the RCC history working in the background undermining the true RCC and it's They that are all about this world, that Jesus warded us about ! They created Vatican II, such is a worldly ends Church controlled by the so called Jews.
The Powerful handful of so called Jews created WW2 for their own ends.
Such a handful of people created the Great depression, there were people waning of this creation before it all happened, they had seen all the handy work of such beforehand in History of such trash that worked to undermine and destroy the peoples of Nations. now the majority of Jew have nothing to do with the top handful of so called Jews, but being Jews they lack Grace and are enslaved Carnal dupes, but many of the Jews being devout religious know this Beast and they did not respect it, for they knew it was not worthy of God ! so they were pointing this out ! and that became a threat to the top handful and there carnal dupes ambitions. that's the 6 million ! they had to be killed because they were the greatest threat to the Bastard carnal Jew and the handful who dominates this world.

Remember that the so called Jew that took over the Vineyard and killed all of Gods Prophets, is one in the same ? so called Jew. Big difference ! but they are all called Jews or regarded as Jews by the majority in history.
But their are Jews who despise other types of Jews ? it's not just one whole big happy family as most would have you believe ! just like we have in Christianity the hatred of another denomination ? it's the same with the Jews ! but if you say that to most people they totally disregard such ! as they go ballistic if you mention or go down that path, many claiming to be Christians demand that you have no rights to talk about the subject of the Jews ? but what they are trying to do is hide everything and investigating such things is totally forbidden ! They only control the story line.
There has been, and is, and is to be, evil on planet Earth more particularly within the hearts most of the masses of men dwelling on it. It is a place in which some, when they are able, will lead others along pathways of darkness into the deepest of pits. Let us not follow them!

We cannot fix all of that... although some people may be trying. Jesus spoke the simplest of answers for us, if we can hear it and obey it:

"But seek ye first the kingdom of God, and his righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you.
Take therefore no thought for the morrow: for the morrow shall take thought for the things of itself. Sufficient unto the day is the evil thereof." Matt 6:33-34

As for everyone else besides me, and perhaps you and a few other guys seeking first things first according to God consider:

"Son of man, when the land sinneth against me by trespassing grievously, then will I stretch out mine hand upon it, and will break the staff of the bread thereof, and will send famine upon it, and will cut off man and beast from it:
Though these three men, Noah, Daniel, and Job, were in it, they should deliver but their own souls by their righteousness, saith the Lord GOD." Ezek 14:13-14

If rather than Noah, Daniel and Job, it should be me and you and another, choosing to seek God's righteousness, we may be able to deliver our own souls alone. While we are here, we may work the right work and we may talk the right talk, but we cannot open forcibly deaf ears. Twisting people's arms is not God's Way to bring anyone into His kingdom. They must do their own seeking. If they desire our help, we may help, but, if they do not, that is their choice. So that is where we are...
 
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It is so sad, what the western world has turned to. It is the same in Denmark, we are probably not as divided as Americans, but here we only have 2% of the people claiming that Jesus died for their sins and amongst them I’m not sure that even 10% will make it to heaven. We (as Danish Christians) have become rich and comfortable, too comfortable to make other peoples problems our problems. Everyone is gathering wealth while the world is burning. I’ve grown to learn why wealthy people won’t make it, it’s not that God is against their wealth, it is because their wealth means more to them than God.
Our wealth has let us to forget why we need God. One of the best advices Jesus gave was to give everything we own away and follow him, if we can’t do that we won’t make it anyways.
It breaks my heart to see what the western Christian communities have become and how the money hungry churches are shamelessly gathering wealth to buy luxury items for people’s 10%
It is my advice, that if one gives 10% of one’s salary to God give it to someone you know needs the money. Give with love, you don’t need to give money in a church bucket, you can give to the poor, schools in your community etc.
You are somewhat correct in such assumptions, but also most poor people in the West are poor because they are bludgers or brain dead in how they spend their money, I know plenty of them, never worked ever in their life and do not know just how good they truly have it. I know people who work hard and cop crap from all sides everyday and then there are ones who are on real good money $250.000 a year and flat broke as because they can not manage money at all, not to mention the bludgers are the same total fools with money ! and some bludgers are wealthy, they have to hide their money that they have so as not to get kicked off the dole, or buy a New car ! I know them !

But as for Christianity, it's not the giving to the poor or 10% you earn, it's the food for the Soul that truly counts, that's is what is truly needed first of all to a true Christians duty, Feed my Sheep ? that means feed their Soul first of all, so it can go one feed themselves and be in charge and control of their lives and not just slobs wanting a handout or demanding such, who have no Grace at all !

But then we have the Godless that love to have the slobs abound and it makes them feel good to feed them, like as if they were pets ! but such pets become only bastard slobs with no respect to themselves or others, it's disgusting, they rob people kick old people ect around ! I have seen it all, and it's a creation work of the Satanist.

We have one such a slob on my wife's cousin side, what a Sponge ! a drug o moron and his aunty and mum just say poor 45yo regardless of what he does, oh he is in jail and needs money so he will not get bashed ? etc etc. No he wants to become a man and wake up to himself, but no ! our society creates such trash ! It's hell bound nurturing the drug up society full on ! you could not devise a more pathetic society if you tried. Men who are bound to be only boys ! or some loopy degenerate filthy scumbag. not to mention a society of gutter sluts, not a moral bone in their body and such is all encouraged nowadays.

Bastard TV Shows depicting degenerate trash as normal ! I seen it last night, it was pathetic and totally disgusting display. I watched such to get a handle on what is going on or being peddled to this generation. so I seen the typical big man display totally self indulged ego trip tosser, that I have seen at work. Totally delusional tosser, thinking he is king what ever and then totally degrade his new so called wife on the stupid show, so cruel so ego driven and disrespecting of another person, but this is the new Politically Correct generation. all his values are trash. It looks that he has been buying whores his whole life and now he wants a whore for a wife that is his possession and from what I gathered Men are on the menu as well to satisfy his sexual derangement, they think that they are it. I have come across such and they are totally possessed. they disrespect everything. I say listen don't talk like that around me, you make me feel sick ! and they get all huffy and try and degrade ya as if you don't cut it in their world, but I would not give 2 pebbles of goat droppings for their world because it totally disrespects what is to be Human. They will never be content, they will be slaves to their own egos and their life will be Hell. No one will come to love such a one ever. Gay people never love anyone but themselves truly just like this new age trash boy man.
 
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Destroying Jews was a means to an end. Hitler was just the most recent in a long line of dictators (Clovis, Charlemagne, Louis14th, Napoleon, Kaiser Wilhelm), and all of them Babylonian/Catholic sympathizers who craved for a united Europe in order to deny prophecy...
KJV Daniel 2:43
43 And whereas thou sawest iron mixed with miry clay, they shall mingle themselves with the seed of men: but they shall not cleave one to another, even as iron is not mixed with clay.
A united global Catholic dictatorship, with Europe being the model, has always been the aspiration of the Vatican. The Jews just happened to be in the way, and Rome has never been on the side of the Jew.
How could it be a means to an end ? the wiping out of the Jews ? when they did not in fact, remember all who could of been killed easy as in the camps, why were they all not killed ?
Now Hitler was the one who was pushing the Jewish Home land first and foremost in fact ! right from the beginning ! W Churchill was against it all and got many of the Jews killed, not to mention never lift a hand to save the Jews being killed by the Germans in fact, WC knew all about the camps and what was going in them !
WC did not want Hitler killed in fact, WC wanted Hitler to do his job that was set down for him by the handful of men who truly control the world and all Governments towed the line, all of the worlds Leaders were puppets on strings.

At the end of the day one can not lay the blame on all the people regardless who were just dupes and some just caught in the system, be they RC or Germans or who ever, as the ones who control the issues are as the Bible says they are.

People are being played ! under deception created by cunning devils to delude you all.

Just look at all the deception and delusions created with Covid ?

Just look at President Biden's works, is he full of deceptions and it's him that wants war with Russia, Biden is the one desperate in fanning the flames in Ukraine, he is insane ! but for what really, it will just only be for a blood shed ! To service his own ego.
 
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You are somewhat correct in such assumptions, but also most poor people in the West are poor because they are bludgers or brain dead in how they spend their money, I know plenty of them, never worked ever in their life and do not know just how good they truly have it. I know people who work hard and cop crap from all sides everyday and then there are ones who are on real good money $250.000 a year and flat broke as because they can not manage money at all, not to mention the bludgers are the same total fools with money ! and some bludgers are wealthy, they have to hide their money that they have so as not to get kicked off the dole, or buy a New car ! I know them !

But as for Christianity, it's not the giving to the poor or 10% you earn, it's the food for the Soul that truly counts, that's is what is truly needed first of all to a true Christians duty, Feed my Sheep ? that means feed their Soul first of all, so it can go one feed themselves and be in charge and control of their lives and not just slobs wanting a handout or demanding such, who have no Grace at all !

But then we have the Godless that love to have the slobs abound and it makes them feel good to feed them, like as if they were pets ! but such pets become only bastard slobs with no respect to themselves or others, it's disgusting, they rob people kick old people ect around ! I have seen it all, and it's a creation work of the Satanist.

We have one such a slob on my wife's cousin side, what a Sponge ! a drug o moron and his aunty and mum just say poor 45yo regardless of what he does, oh he is in jail and needs money so he will not get bashed ? etc etc. No he wants to become a man and wake up to himself, but no ! our society creates such trash ! It's hell bound nurturing the drug up society full on ! you could not devise a more pathetic society if you tried. Men who are bound to be only boys ! or some loopy degenerate filthy scumbag. not to mention a society of gutter sluts, not a moral bone in their body and such is all encouraged nowadays.

Bastard TV Shows depicting degenerate trash as normal ! I seen it last night, it was pathetic and totally disgusting display. I watched such to get a handle on what is going on or being peddled to this generation. so I seen the typical big man display totally self indulged ego trip tosser, that I have seen at work. Totally delusional tosser, thinking he is king what ever and then totally degrade his new so called wife on the stupid show, so cruel so ego driven and disrespecting of another person, but this is the new Politically Correct generation. all his values are trash. It looks that he has been buying whores his whole life and now he wants a whore for a wife that is his possession and from what I gathered Men are on the menu as well to satisfy his sexual derangement, they think that they are it. I have come across such and they are totally possessed. they disrespect everything. I say listen don't talk like that around me, you make me feel sick ! and they get all huffy and try and degrade ya as if you don't cut it in their world, but I would not give 2 pebbles of goat droppings for their world because it totally disrespects what is to be Human. They will never be content, they will be slaves to their own egos and their life will be Hell. No one will come to love such a one ever. Gay people never love anyone but themselves truly just like this new age trash boy man.
I always find it hard when people talk about handouts or keeping other people dependent on your charity. One doesn’t need to make more that 1000$ a month, then one could serve, preach or evangelize the rest of the month.
If you are talking about spiritual food, maybe one should spend less time gathering wealth and more time fishing humans. Keeping people dependent is that really a thing?
The political warfare on the poor is awful.
If my brother constantly needed handouts and I have more than I need, I will gladly keep him on an ongoing handout. When you love someone, you are not concerned with their effort or if they deserve to be poor, it is not relevant. We should give with love and we shouldn’t only give money. Give people a job and help them climb on the social latter, babysit, pay their rent and give because you love them.
If you love your money so much that you are having a hard time figuring out if the person deserves your handout or if you’ll hold them dependent on you. Don’t give, it serves you better to gather gold on this earth. I know you can’t take it with you to heaven, but that’s mostly a concern for people who will actually go to heaven.
 

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Just look at President Biden's works, is he full of deceptions and it's him that wants war with Russia, Biden is the one desperate in fanning the flames in Ukraine, he is insane ! but for what really, it will just only be for a blood shed ! To service his own ego.
Biden is a puppet too.
 

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I always find it hard when people talk about handouts or keeping other people dependent on your charity.
The Bible is very clear -- no one should be living off handouts if he is able bodied and has all his faculties. The Bible does encourage aid to widows and orphans, but here again one would need to know whether they have a genuine need.
 
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The Bible is very clear -- no one should be living off handouts if he is able bodied and has all his faculties. The Bible does encourage aid to widows and orphans, but here again one would need to know whether they have a genuine need.
We will need some scripture supporting that.

The Bible doesn’t only encourage to give to orphans and widows, that is nonsense, it also doesn’t tell us to make sure that they actually need the handout or that they aren’t able bodied. That’s between the poor and God, if you are that attached to your money, it won’t serve you to give anything anyways.
Charity is only good if you are going to collect treasures in heaven, but if you’re not planning on going to heaven, charity is senseless.
Hebrews 13:16
2. Corinthians 9:7
Proverbs 19:17

Isaiah 58:7
If you pour yourself out for the hungry and satisfy the desire of the afflicted, then shall your light rise in the darkness and your gloom be as the noonday.

Matthew 6:2
Luke 12:33
Acts 20:35
Proverbs 21:13
Luke 21:1-4
Isaiah 58:10

Proverbs 28:27
“27 He that giveth unto the poor shall not lack: but he that hideth his eyes shall have many a curse.”

Mark 12:31
31 And the second is like, namely this, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. There is none other commandment greater than these.

If you love your neighbor as yourself, you wouldn’t even consider if your neighbor has an actual need. If you love your neighbor as yourself, you wouldn’t have problems or think twice before sharing. You are not talking about love, you are talking about greed.
 
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@JohnPaul your arguments are just another form of participation in the culture war. Whoopi might be misguided she might even be racist and if she doesn’t have Jesus in her heart she certainly need it. We should not wish for other peoples demise, we should pray that they see the light. When I see people who are lost, it always reminds me of Paul’s story, how he used to persecute Christians and how God showed his greatness upon him.
Sinners make the best saints, because they know what they are saved from, they have seen God’s endless mercy and unshakable love, he is loyal.
He proves his greatness on sinners, with his love and mercy, we should have mercy and love even for the people mislead to do the devils work.
I don’t know Whoopi’s heart but I know that our father wants her to surrender to him. The assumption that she would have gotten fired if she was white is irrelevant. I don’t think anyone should have been fired for saying what she said (black or white), she is wrong and was miseducated but it doesn’t satisfy my feeling of justice to see black people being treated unfairly even if white people are being treated unfairly.
I’m on God’s side, on the side of justice and it doesn’t serve any purpose to punish people unfairly, because other people are punished unfairly. What kind of logic is that?
If we allow us to get caught in a culture war, we’ll quickly find ourselves serving the devil. We shouldn’t fight wars by attacking our enemy, we should fight wars with our kindness.
We are all created in his image and our hearts long for his love, sinners recognize that when they surrender to Jesus. Surrender your hate, your culture war, your wish for Whoopi to fail, pray that she succeeds and surrenders her life to Christ. We should bless our enemies and pray that they go through the change Paul experienced.
Don’t wish for black people to be treated unfairly if you think white people are being treated unfairly - if we do that we accept unfairness as the new standard and that’s not the way of our merciful and just father. That’s the way of the devil.
I said the truth not hate, Whoppi is a racist and had she been White she would've been fired on the spot, what's good for the goose is good for the gander.
 
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