I had some thoughts about Adams sin and then started linking that to the law, this is what I came to.
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I want to discus Romans Ch 5 verse 12-21. Agree or disagree. Did men inherent a sin, or the result of sin, death when Adam ate of the tree.
There are reasons why it is important to make this distinction and as always properly dividing the word of God effects your understanding of other verses.
Romans 5...... http://www.biblegate...+5&version=NKJV
I am sorry to tell you this bleak story, but it is true. Let's read vs 16a Again, the gift of God is not like the result of the one man's sin: The judgement followed one sin and brought condemnation? When Adam sinned, what followed? Judgment followed. How many sins? One sin. That means even if you sin once, under the law you cant escape God's judgement. You don't have to break many laws to receive judgement and condemnation, you have already broken many laws, right? In Adam we were already judged and condemned to death. So whats the deal, you have to include the law to understand the full meaning, the law was not spoken by God until Moses just as Paul says in verse 14 Nevertheless death reigned from Adam to Moses, even over those who had not sinned according to the likeness of the transgression of Adam, As soon as God spoke the words of the 10 Commandments everything changed, sin was defined. These were now offenses, violations of Gods spoken word, that work against the divine will.
Isaiah 55
[sup]11[/sup] So shall My word be that goes forth from My mouth;
It shall not return to Me void,
But it shall accomplish what I please,
And it shall prosper
in the thing for which I sent it.
You see when God spoke the words it became apart of creation, just as He spoke all creation into being, He also spoke the law into being. So death reigned to all men because of one mans sin, the violation of the one command, until the law was spoken to Moses.
Rom 5:18 Therefore, as through one man’s offense
judgment came to all men, resulting in condemnation, even so through one Man’s righteous act
the free gift came to all men, resulting in justification of life. What happened between Adam and Christ the law came. So the Messiah could fulfill it "the law " overcoming death. Without the Law "conditional sin" Jesus Himself being born in the likeness of man also would have been under Adams curse to all men. Are you beginning to see the place the law serves. Jesus meet the conditions of the law.
The Law came to break the curse of Adam "death"
What Paul is saying, is death reigned, He never said we were born with sin but rather Adams curse of death was imputed on all men. And all those until the law came were condemned to death.
even over those who had not sinned. The law came to set a standard; to over come the unconditional curse of death to all men; threw Adams sin. If the law had not come we would all still be condemned to death by Adams single sin. Do you understand now? The law came so that each man would personally transgress the law, to set a conditional standard for all men, so that men would no longer be under Adams cures of death, but would now be held accountable for their own sin. Jesus fulfilled the law. All men were condemned to death before the law came for Adams single sin. The law came and now you condemn yourself in your own sin. There I think I have put it in words you can understand.
So now it is true as Paul says all have sinned. But no man knew what sin was before the law came.
All men have sinned; therefore, death has passed upon all men Rom 5:12.
Do you now see the meaning in these words?
( therefore, death has passed upon all men ) Since the law all men have been responsible for their own sin and its result, death.
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Other verses that indicate death was the inherent condition not sin.
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Romans 7
[sup]7[/sup] What shall we say then?
Is the law sin? Certainly not! On the contrary, I would not have known sin except through the law.
For I would not have known covetousness unless the law had said, “You shall not covet. [sup]8[/sup] But sin, taking opportunity by the commandment, produced in me all manner of evil desire. For apart from the law sin was dead. [sup]9[/sup] I was alive once without the law, but when the commandment came, sin revived and I died. [sup]10[/sup] And the commandment, which
was to
bring life, I found to
bring death. [sup]11[/sup] For sin, taking occasion by the commandment, deceived me, and by it killed
me. [sup]12[/sup] Therefore the law
is holy, and the commandment holy and just and good.
1 Corinthians 15
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For since by man came death, by Man also
came the resurrection of the dead. [sup]22[/sup]
For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ all shall be made alive.
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Like I said I was on a roll or riding the the very peak of the wave in the Spirit when this thought came to me. Just thought Id throw it out there and share it.
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