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I received God's truth, His word, about 4 years ago in a vision. This vision has been blossoming new aspects of truth ever since. And as new revelations erupt I am able to apply them to my daily life.

This vision did not have its origin in the bible, that is, not second hand knowledge through prophets, teachers or Jesus of the past. No, this was directly from Jesus in heaven, delivered by His Spirit.
You may perceive that the Lord Jesus is revealing new things to you personally and that's OK. But I'm here to assure you that there are no new "revelations" as you put it. There was only one revelation given by the Lord, to the Apostle John, on the isle of Patmos.
Now, unless you are the 13th Apostle (which history somehow lost), then the Lord has not spoken to you. May I suggest it was a Demon, posing as an Angel of light.

Do you think your so special, that the Lord would chose to speak directly to you while ignoring the rest of His people.

I don't believe you mean that the Lord spoke to you directly through His Spirit, I think you mean that His Holy Spirit has led you and helped you understand God Word (The Holy Bible).

Please note what the verse below reveals about the role of the Holy Spirit.

In John 14:26, Jesus says, "But the Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in My name, He will teach you all things, and bring to your remembrance all things that I said to you."

This verse highlights the role of the Holy Spirit as a teacher and reminder of Jesus' words. What do you think the Lord meant when He said "He ill teach you all things and bring to remembrance all things I said to you".

Doesn't this mean that the Holy Spirit is only teaching those same things that the Lord Jesus Christ taught. You make it sound like He is revealing new things which nobody else has had the privilege to hear and learn about. I'm sure you're not suggesting that., at least I hope you're not.

 

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We only have one Holy Bible (the living, all powerful, eternal Word of God).
There are many bibles today. Hundreds.
And there is only One Gospel message.
What do you mean by your words, 'One Gospel message'?
Yes there are many who serve their father (the Devil) and twist the Word of God to create a false narrative and deceive those who have itching ears.
Absolutely, otherwise Satan and his angels would not be doing their job.
Thank God, His children cannot be deceived, because we are not led by wicked spirits but we are led by Gods Holy Spirit. God said, it's impossible to deceive His children, we are immune from the Devils poisonous false gospel.
That's your words, but Jesus did say.....
But he that entereth in by the door is the shepherd of the sheep.
To him the porter openeth; and the sheep hear his voice: and he calleth his own sheep by name, and leadeth them out. And when he putteth forth his own sheep, he goeth before them, and the sheep follow him: for they know his voice. And a stranger will they not follow, but will flee from him: for they know not the voice of strangers.

You have never heard Christ speak, and if you think you have then it was a Demon posing as Christ, because He said "I go away and you see Me no more until I return. Be careful, don't trust every spirit.
No, just Jesus's Holy Spirit. He said He would not leave us as orphans but would send us the Holy Spirit to lead us into all truth.
God does not speak directly to any man, He has said everything He wanted to say to us.
When did God tell you this private message? Please tell us more.

Didn't God speak directly to Adam, Moses, Abraham, those at Jesus's baptism?

Doesn't God speak to young men in visions and old men in dreams. And to the church through prophets who prophesy, others who speak in tongues/interpretation.

Personally I love hearing God's expressed thoughts in my spirit, that is, God's words that don't find their origin in the scriptures. I am open to the Spirit to remind me of what He spoke through people in history, especially Jesus when He was here in human form.
Every Word is recorded in the Holy Bible. You agree that we can't digest everything He has said, in one lifetime, but then on the other hand you claim that it's not enough and you need Him to speak to you personally everyday.
Where my family are originally from they lived on a remote island for generations where they ate root vegetables and whatever they could get from the ocean around them.

An opportunity came for my parents to leave the island and go to a different country where they were introduced to rice, chicken, peaches, snow and many other new things.

They returned to their remote village and introduced them to some of the new foods they experienced. Many of those in the village rejected these foreign foods, some even thought we were trying to poison them.

The limited diet of these people in the village was obviously beneficial and profitable to keep them living as human beings generation after generation.

But was it the ONLY food available on the planet that was profitable to keep humans alive generation after generation?

Of course not. God has provided a broad range of beautiful nutritious life giving foods.

So it is with spiritual food. There is no limit to God's truths, God's words, for every word that proceeds from God's mouth are endless flowing from His lips. If only we have ears to hear what the Spirit is saying to Christ's body.
I don't need the Word of God in human form, I don't need to hear Jesus with my ears, I don't need to see Him with my eyes and I don't need to touch Him.
That's fine for you, just as it was fine for my grandparents and their ancestors who lived on a limited diet.

Stick with the scriptures my friend. But please don't condemn or even prevent us who receive God's words of life from beyond the scriptures.
The sad reality is, that seeing Him in person makes no difference and there is no advantage to be had by those who did. If anything, seeing and hearing Him was a added curse for the unbelievers, because they incurred more damnation upon themselves for rejecting Him.
Sure. But for those who did receive Jesus in human form were so blessed as they saw the actual miracles Jesus performed. They heard so much more of what Jesus taught that couldn't be recorded. That would've been fantastic.
The Lord said, "blessed is he who has not seen Me and yet believes Me".
And even better, "blessed is he who has seen Me and believes Me".
Grace and faith are gifts from God, nobody is born with grace and faith. Salvation is only by "grace, through faith", both of these are gifts from God. Nobody can produce these two, they are received as gifts from God and He only gives these gifts to His children.
Amen!
He never gives them to the Devils children.
Not until they are judged, do some time for their crime and repent. Then these too will be saved, redeemed, reconciled to their Creator!
Jesus told the reprobate Pharisees, "you are of your father the Devil".
Even the Pharisees will repent in eternity along with their father the Devil. This is brilliant news! I get excited with the hope of seeing this event play out.
 

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It's simple, the Lord Jesus Christ (God) was on the earth 2000 years ago. He ascended to heaven and promised that every eye would see Him when He returns.

Now if Jesus returned in secret and spoke to you or anyone else, then that makes Him a liar. Do you believe that Jesus is a liar???...
So Jesus lied when He said His sheep hear His voice. That is sheep of 2 folds, the sheep who respond to the gospel which is the power of God unto salvation, to the Jew FIRST (first fold) then the Gentile (not of the first fold).

Don't the Gentile sheep hear His voice too. If they do, then they don't become His sheep until He leaves earth.
 

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There is only One Truth, and His name is the Lord Jesus Christ. He is the truth, the way and the life
And 'the Truth' said, But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.

I have yet many things to say unto you, but ye cannot bear them now.
Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.

I will continue to be led by the Comforter, the Spirit of Truth, the Holy Ghost as a child of God. He's not restricted to historical truths but progressive truth flowing from God's lips to His children.
Luk 11:13 If ye then, being evil, know how to give good gifts unto your children: how much more shall your heavenly Father give the Holy Spirit (and good gifts) to them that ask him?

I ask for good gifts and He gave me the Holy Spirit. And with Him ongoing revelation of the infinite God, an ongoing exploration into all truth, and personally relaying every word that proceeds from the mouth of God.
 

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You may perceive that the Lord Jesus is revealing new things to you personally and that's OK.
Thanks. It is a privilege to be a follower of Jesus and have His Spirit living inside. To receive truth direct from Father and Jesus through Their Spirit.
But I'm here to assure you that there are no new "revelations" as you put it.
I don't necessarily ask for new revelations all the time but the Holy Ghost just gives it. I won't reject Him and His gifts that's for sure. They are so precious when they come.
There was only one revelation given by the Lord, to the Apostle John, on the isle of Patmos.
Now, unless you are the 13th Apostle (which history somehow lost), then the Lord has not spoken to you. May I suggest it was a Demon, posing as an Angel of light.
No you may not. Unless you are going to take a leaf out of the Pharisees book who falsly accused Jesus.....But when the Pharisees heard this, they said, “It is only by Beelzebul, the prince of demons, that this fellow drives out demons.”
Do you think your so special, that the Lord would chose to speak directly to you while ignoring the rest of His people.
I am who I am by God's design and will. I am going to receive whatever He gives me and be very thankful.

I'm not interested in competing with Jesus's sheep who hear His voice too. And those who God reveals truth to. We are all fellow servants of God and friends of Jesus.
I don't believe you mean that the Lord spoke to you directly through His Spirit, I think you mean that His Holy Spirit has led you and helped you understand God Word (The Holy Bible).
No, I give God permission to put words in my mouth but not you or others for that matter.

Some truths God's Spirit gives me definitely don't find their origin in the bibles.
Please note what the verse below reveals about the role of the Holy Spirit.

In John 14:26, Jesus says, "But the Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in My name, He will teach you all things, and bring to your remembrance all things that I said to you."

This verse highlights the role of the Holy Spirit as a teacher and reminder of Jesus' words. What do you think the Lord meant when He said "He ill teach you all things and bring to remembrance all things I said to you".

Doesn't this mean that the Holy Spirit is only teaching those same things that the Lord Jesus Christ taught.
Thanks for the question. The simple answer is, NO! Definitely not ONLY. He said, i have more to teach you, more than you can bear now.

In fact Jesus went on to say, the Spirit will lead you into ALL truth. AND ... I have yet many things to say unto you, but ye cannot bear them now.
Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.
You make it sound like He is revealing new things which nobody else has had the privilege to hear and learn about. I'm sure you're not suggesting that., at least I hope you're not.
Whether others are given certain gifts, certain truths, certain roles or functions in the church or not, that's not my responsibility. That belongs to the Spirit as directed by Jesus the Head of His church.

I just humbly accept and obediently follow the Spirit. For God through Paul said, For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.
 

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It is very possible for Christians to be deceived.

The New Testament gives warnings about this and if it were not possible then the Lord would not have put these warnings in His Word. Ya gotta accept the whole counsel of God found in His Word.





That's just what you think and taking that position is actually an open door to deception.

You're much more likely to accept false doctrine if you believe it's impossible for you to be deceived.






That statement is a deception by which you have been deceived to believe the Lord is not speaking to His people..

He speaks to His people primarily thru His Word, but there are some things NOT found in His Word that we need answers for and He can, will, and does speak to His people to lead and guide them. Although it's not an audible voice as He speaks to us thru our conscience provided we are walking with Him and have not been deceived by sinful behavior.
Either your Shepherded has deceived you, or you are self deluded regarding

Matt 24:24
For false christs and false prophets will rise and show great signs and wonders to deceive, if possible, even the elect.

How did you arrive at the conclusion that "if possible" means "it is possible". If I said to you, "if pigs could fly" you would go and tell people that pigs can fly. But if you're honest you'd admit that "if possible" must mean "not possible".

False teachers "wolves in sheep's clothing" have always tried to deceive everyone, because they don't know who the elect of God are. If they knew who we were, then they would only come after us and they wouldn't bother with those who are already condemned to hell.

The Lord Jesus Christ promised that not a single one of Gods elect will be lost, every single one of us will be saved and nobody can deceive us because we have the truth in us. Every born again believer knows we have eternal security.

God said the fearful shall not inherit his Kingdom, so you can always tell a true believer because we don't have any fear of the Devil or any false christ.
 

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Doesn't this mean that the Holy Spirit is only teaching those same things that the Lord Jesus Christ taught.
Just to clarify, are saying that the Holy Spirit is only teaching the things Jesus taught AND we're recorded in the bible?

Or all that Jesus actually taught throughout His life on earth? Remember, most of what He taught was never recorded.

Jhn 21:24 This is the disciple which testifieth of these things, and wrote these things: and we know that his testimony is true.
Jhn 21:25 And there are also many other things which Jesus did, the which, if they should be written every one, I suppose that even the world itself could not contain the books that should be written. Amen.
 

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It's simple, the Lord Jesus Christ (God) was on the earth 2000 years ago. He ascended to heaven and promised that every eye would see Him when He returns.

Speaking of His actual second coming when He lands on the Mount of Olives and starts His 1000 Year Reign.

When the catching away of His faith happens, He won't be seen in the air by every eye, but it won't necessarily be a secret when a few hundred thousand of Christians who are actually faithful to the Lord are suddenly missing from this world as this will be widely reported on all the new stations and across the internet.

Only those that are actually faithful to the Lord will the taken in the catching away

Revelation 3:10
Because thou hast kept the word of my patience, I also will keep thee from the hour of temptation, which shall come upon all the world, to try them that dwell upon the earth.




the Lord Jesus Christ (God) was on the earth 2000 years ago

It's been more than 2000 years now
 

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Either your Shepherded has deceived you, or you are self deluded regarding

It's actually your "shepard" that deceived you in to believing it's not possible for Christians to be deceived which happens when God's warnings are ignored.

The calvinists are obviously deceived as they twist scripture and ignore portions of God's that disagree with thinking calvin knows more than the Lord which is why they follow calvin instead of Jesus




The Lord Jesus Christ promised that not a single one of Gods elect will be lost, every single one of us will be saved and nobody can deceive us because we have the truth in us. Every born again believer knows we have eternal security.

Judas was lost having once been one of the elect.

Eternal security is ONLY applicable to those that abide in Christ and not all who get born again abide in Christ enduring until the end of their lives as some fall away after having been born again. (see Mark Mark 4:13-20)

These are some of the warnings we see in the Word of the Lord written to Christians:

Matthew 24:4,5
And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you.
For many shall come in My Name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many.

*Many includes those claiming "I am anointed" that are deceiving many (false teachers)

1 Timothy 4:1,2
Now the Spirit speaks expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;
Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron

("depart from the faith" is not referring to sinners in the world who never came to faith in the first place)

1 Timothy 6:3-5 (see Luke 11:23 and 2 Peter 3:2)
If any man teach otherwise, and consent not to wholesome words, even the words of our Lord Jesus Christ, and to the doctrine which is according to godliness (holiness); (Doctrine of Christ, aka Doctrine of the Apostles)
He is proud, knowing nothing, but doting about questions and strifes of words, whereof comes envy, strife, railings, evil thoughts… Perverse disputings of men of corrupt minds, and destitute of the truth, supposing that gain is godliness: from such withdraw thyself.

2 Timothy 4:3,4

For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine (teaching); but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;
And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.

2 Peter 2:1-3

But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying (contradicting, Not agreeing with) the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction.
And many shall follow their pernicious ways; by reason of whom the way of truth shall be evil spoken of.
And through covetousness (idolatry) shall they with feigned words make merchandise of you: whose judgment now of a long time lingers not, and their damnation slumbers not.

Jude 1:4
For there are certain men crept in unawares, who were before of old ordained to this condemnation, ungodly men, turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness (no self control, living after the flesh), and denying (contradicting, opposing Jesus’ teachings) the only Lord God, and our Lord Jesus Christ. (referring to false teachers and false brethren - see Matthew 13:24-30)
(Deny = Strong's G0720… to contradict, disavow, reject, deny, refuse - and Strong's G4483… the idea of pouring forth, to utter, speak of or say, command)

Jude 1:17-21
Remember the words which were spoken before of the apostles of our Lord Jesus Christ;
How that they told you there should be mockers in the last time, who should walk after their own ungodly lusts.
These are those who separate themselves, sensual, having not the Spirit.
But you, beloved, building up yourselves on your most holy faith, praying in the Holy Ghost,

Keep yourselves in the love of God, looking for the mercy of our Lord Jesus Christ unto eternal life.
("those who separate themselves" is not referring to sinners in the world who were never joined unto the Lord in the first place)

Matthew 24:3-13
What shall be the sign of thy coming, and of the end of the world?
And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you.
For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ (including saying “I am anointed”); and shall deceive many.
And you shall hear of wars and rumors of wars: see that you be not troubled: for all these things must come to pass, but the end is not yet.
For nation shall rise against nation (ethnic group vs ethnic group), and kingdom against kingdom: and there shall be famines, and pestilences, and earthquakes, in many different places.
All these are the beginning of sorrows.
Then shall they deliver you up to be afflicted, and shall kill you: and ye shall be hated of all nations for my name's sake.
And then shall many be offended, and shall betray one another, and shall hate one another.
And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many.

And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold. (See 1 John 5:3 AND 2 John 1:6)
But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.

The calvinists never allow what the Lord says in His Word to get in the way of the deceptions they are deceived with :funlaugh2