Why were animals affected by the Fall?

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BeyondET

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But we also know who the serpent was . That ol serpent , the dragon , the devil .
OH yes . He is a deciever big time and he knows how to allure mankind through the lusts of the flesh .
ONLY by our faith in CHRIST can we resist him .
Yes he was a animal to which could be why animals effected
 

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There is no concept of morality in the animal kingdom.
 

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Why do animals die? I mean why would animals who are incapable of moral judgment, be subjected to the Fall of Adam? Presumably they would have had an interminable lifespan like Adam and Eve before the fall. Why did a human decision affect the animal kingdom?
They weren't effected by the fall.
In truth, neither were we.
We were made to be exactly as God intended.

God created Adam from the dust of the ground, and then breathed into his nostrils. And Adam then became a living soul.
And when he died as when we do, his and Eve's body returned to the dust from whence it sprang. And the soul to God who gave it.

We think Adam and Eve were immortal in the beginning. They weren't. Their souls were linked directly to God.
When they ate of the forbidden fruit God planted in the garden, they became like him . Knowing good and evil. The differences between right and wrong.
If they had been immortal in the beginning, God would not have cast them from the garden so to prevent their eating from the tree of (eternal) life.
 

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John 12:24 . . Truly, truly, I say to you, unless a grain of wheat falls into
the earth and dies, it remains by itself alone; but if it dies, it bears much
fruit.

That law of nature applies to any number of cereal grasses, e.g. rice, rye,
barley, oats, etc. which were all created and completed on the 3rd day. (Gen
1:11-13) telling me that there was death in Adam's world before he tasted
the forbidden fruit.

Also, there are insects whose adult stage survives only long enough to breed
and lay eggs for the next generation. These kinds of bugs perish not long
after completing their nymph stage; for example Cicadas whose adult lives
expend within one or two months. Locusts are known to survive on average
three to five months.

It's very important that vegetarian types of bugs undergo massive die-offs
on a regular basis or otherwise their numbers would increase to the point
where no crops on Earth would make it to harvest; and both man and beast,
back before the invention of insecticides, would likely have suffered
perpetual famines. Mosquitoes, fleas, and lice would've been serious
problems too.
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Gen 3:17 . .To Adam He said: Because you did as your wife said, and ate
of the tree about which I commanded you; "You shall not eat of it" cursed be
the ground because of you

This particular curse isn't a consequence for tasting the forbidden fruit. It's
directly relative to Adam discarding God's explicit instructions and yielding to
his wife's persuasion. Unfortunately, when it comes to choosing between
pleasing women or pleasing God; men all too often sell their souls to the
women. (cf. Luke 14:26)

Not only would Man himself be effected by a curse upon the ground, but
every living thing that depends upon the ground for its survival would be
effected too; from lowly nematodes and earthworms right on up to the top
of the food chain. The whole animal world, and all the seed-bearing plant life
too, would suffer collateral damages for Adam's mistake.

God somehow manipulated the soil's fertility so that it now no longer
produces as well as it did in the beginning. Seeing as how He invented soil's
fertility in the first place, then it likely wasn't too difficult for Him to alter it.

Unfortunately the abundant swarms of life that God created in the beginning
would, at that point, begin to thin out as the competition for available
natural food stuffs would begin to intensify.
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speaking of moral judgment . It is true they cannot make that . But even some animals are wiser than many people .
You dont see the animals trying to change their sex . I dont see monkeys saying or thinking they are not the sex they were born .
THIS IS a very sad time we live in my friend . When even the animals have what appears to be more wisdom than a lot of mankind .
That is when ya know reprobation of minds has occured .
But these speak evil of those things which they know not: but what they know naturally, as brute beasts, in those things they corrupt themselves.