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Deuteronomy 5:7-9

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7 Thou shalt have none other gods before me.
8 Thou shalt not make thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the waters beneath the earth:
9 Thou shalt not bow down thyself unto them, nor serve them: for I the Lord thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me,

Revelation 9:20

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20 And the rest of the men which were not killed by these plagues yet repented not of the works of their hands, that they should not worship devils, and idols of gold, and silver, and brass, and stone, and of wood: which neither can see, nor hear, nor walk:

Galatians 5:19-21

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19 Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness,
20 Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies,
21 Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.

Exodus 20:3-6

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3 Thou shalt have no other gods before me.
4 Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth.
5 Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the Lord thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me;
6 And shewing mercy unto thousands of them that love me, and keep my commandments.

Psalm 135:15-18

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15 The idols of the heathen are silver and gold, the work of men's hands.
16 They have mouths, but they speak not; eyes have they, but they see not;
17 They have ears, but they hear not; neither is there any breath in their mouths.
18 They that make them are like unto them: so is every one that trusteth in them.

Revelation 21:8

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8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.

Leviticus 19:4

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4 Turn ye not unto idols, nor make to yourselves molten gods: I am the Lord your God.

 
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Sin punishes itself Siddi. It distorts a healthy perspective. Worshipping the created instead of the Creator is one such distortion.....and it bears fruit in relational breakdown with both oneself and with others and results in no peace.
 
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Will God punish idolaters?

I would say;

* Idolatry is one making their faith, praise, glorifying something other than God.

* God provides the knowledge and consequences for a man to choose God over idols.

* God provides a means of correction for men to put away idols and rather choose God.

* God provides the knowledge of the consequences for rejecting God.

* Once a mans bodily life has ceased living it’s natural life…it’s departed living soul…
~ Without God shall suffer dastardly consequence for which the “effects” to “choose” to be “WITH” God forever;
shall cease.

In other words…I suppose a man could call Gods rejection of a man “a Punishment”….
However in reality, it is God “rejecting” a man who freely chose to “reject God”.
Or “in fact”, it IS God being JUST, by Giving that man What He Chose…
Separation from God Forever.

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Why does not non christian become christians?
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2 Corinthians 4:4
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4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.
 
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Why does not non christian become christians?
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2 Corinthians 4:4
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4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.
Hello Siddhi!
May I ask what your photo is about? Jesus crucified and upside down seems kind of unusual.
Thank you and have a nice day!
 
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Hello Siddhi!
May I ask what your photo is about? Jesus crucified and upside down seems kind of unusual.
Thank you and have a nice day!
Hi Nancy!!! This is what I found.
The words in this image are mostly Hebrew terms from Kabbalah, a system of Jewish mysticism that developed centuries after the Old Testament period. The circles are called the Sefirot and are believed to represent attributes or stages through which God’s power flows into the world, such as Keter (Crown or divine will), Chokhmah (Wisdom), Binah (Understanding), Chesed (Mercy), Gevurah (Judgment), Tiferet (Harmony), Netzach (Endurance), Hod (Humility), Yesod (Foundation), and Malkuth (Kingdom or the created world). In Kabbalistic thought, God Himself (Ein Sof, “the Infinite”) is considered too unknowable to approach directly, so divine life is said to move through these levels. When Jesus is placed into this framework, He is no longer presented as God fully revealed in the flesh, but as part of a mystical system that channels divine attributes. That subtly but seriously alters who Jesus is. Scripture does not teach that we approach God through spiritual stages, emanations, or hidden structures; it teaches that God has made Himself fully and directly known in Christ. For this reason, although the Hebrew words may sound biblical, the system behind them is not, and applying it to Jesus diminishes the biblical truth that in Him dwells all the fullness of God bodily.
 

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Hi Nancy!!! This is what I found.
The words in this image are mostly Hebrew terms from Kabbalah, a system of Jewish mysticism that developed centuries after the Old Testament period. The circles are called the Sefirot and are believed to represent attributes or stages through which God’s power flows into the world, such as Keter (Crown or divine will), Chokhmah (Wisdom), Binah (Understanding), Chesed (Mercy), Gevurah (Judgment), Tiferet (Harmony), Netzach (Endurance), Hod (Humility), Yesod (Foundation), and Malkuth (Kingdom or the created world). In Kabbalistic thought, God Himself (Ein Sof, “the Infinite”) is considered too unknowable to approach directly, so divine life is said to move through these levels. When Jesus is placed into this framework, He is no longer presented as God fully revealed in the flesh, but as part of a mystical system that channels divine attributes. That subtly but seriously alters who Jesus is. Scripture does not teach that we approach God through spiritual stages, emanations, or hidden structures; it teaches that God has made Himself fully and directly known in Christ. For this reason, although the Hebrew words may sound biblical, the system behind them is not, and applying it to Jesus diminishes the biblical truth that in Him dwells all the fullness of God bodily.
kabbalah bad news . marvel not that the mystery of inquity has long been at work .
To the trenches one and all . We have a gospel to defend like never before .
 

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You aint missing anything sister .
Already the set up grows big time . The churches should Never have been tied into politcs at all .
We got one teaching now that the way us gentiles are saved is by HOW we treated israel . Do that in any way
SOUND like the gospel to you
OR rather a massive set up for all to buy right into this political led , religoin led , peace plan for Israel .
BY which it sure do DENY JESUS the CHRIST .
another was t alking about a dream and again it was tied into something simliar .
This is not looking good sister . WE shall stick to the gospel and the bible and focus on CHRIST JESUS
and have No hope in men , in politics , ONLY IN GOD and IN HIS CHRIST .
 

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Hi Nancy!!! This is what I found.
The words in this image are mostly Hebrew terms from Kabbalah, a system of Jewish mysticism that developed centuries after the Old Testament period. The circles are called the Sefirot and are believed to represent attributes or stages through which God’s power flows into the world, such as Keter (Crown or divine will), Chokhmah (Wisdom), Binah (Understanding), Chesed (Mercy), Gevurah (Judgment), Tiferet (Harmony), Netzach (Endurance), Hod (Humility), Yesod (Foundation), and Malkuth (Kingdom or the created world). In Kabbalistic thought, God Himself (Ein Sof, “the Infinite”) is considered too unknowable to approach directly, so divine life is said to move through these levels. When Jesus is placed into this framework, He is no longer presented as God fully revealed in the flesh, but as part of a mystical system that channels divine attributes. That subtly but seriously alters who Jesus is. Scripture does not teach that we approach God through spiritual stages, emanations, or hidden structures; it teaches that God has made Himself fully and directly known in Christ. For this reason, although the Hebrew words may sound biblical, the system behind them is not, and applying it to Jesus diminishes the biblical truth that in Him dwells all the fullness of God bodily.
Thank you @Cassandra
I think our sister mistakenly posted the photo/diagram upside down, oops! Lol.
Anyhow, all you have written to explain the diagram reminds me of what I have been intensely studying about the 7 Noahide laws. Which also can sound biblical but most surely are not. I have wanted to start a thread on all I have been learning but, my guess is it would not be received well so...I pray about it in the background.
Again thank you for your extensive explanation sister!
 
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You aint missing anything sister .
Already the set up grows big time . The churches should Never have been tied into politcs at all .
We got one teaching now that the way us gentiles are saved is by HOW we treated israel . Do that in any way
SOUND like the gospel to you
OR rather a massive set up for all to buy right into this political led , religoin led , peace plan for Israel .
BY which it sure do DENY JESUS the CHRIST .
another was t alking about a dream and again it was tied into something simliar .
This is not looking good sister . WE shall stick to the gospel and the bible and focus on CHRIST JESUS
and have No hope in men , in politics , ONLY IN GOD and IN HIS CHRIST .
Amen!
 

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Thank you @Cassandra
I think our sister mistakenly posted the photo/diagram upside down, oops! Lol.
Anyhow, all you have written to explain the diagram reminds me of what I have been intensely studying about the 7 Noahide laws. Which also can sound biblical but most surely are not. I have wanted to start a thread on all I have been learning but, my guess is it would not be received well so...I pray about it in the background.
Again thank you for your extensive explanation sister!
Marvel not my dear sister . Many can quoate truths but have used such to lead men captive to a lie .
And again no marvel . For the very first one i noticed that did this
did it in the garden when he seduced eve . and beleive me that is not the one we want to follow or beleive .
Shinar . in the land of shinar we see a clear example
when the peoples of that day called for a mandate , A we ARE ONE mandate
by which they worked as one peoples , one mission , one common ground theme
to build a world tower they BELIEVED would reach to heaven .
The name of that place became BABEL and later would be called BABYLON.
Cause read the scrips , WHEN it speaks of KING nebb and babylon
IT speaks of this land of SHINAR too . seems like there is nothing new under this ol sun .
And always it leads to REBELLION against GOD .
We shall stick to the bible sister and cling to CHRIST having ALL HOPE in GOD .
Cursed is the man whose hope be in men and makes FLESH his arm .
Blessed is the man whose HOPE b e in GOD . This is about to hit a peak point sister .
 
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Deuteronomy 5:7-9

King James Version

7 Thou shalt have none other gods before me.
8 Thou shalt not make thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the waters beneath the earth:
9 Thou shalt not bow down thyself unto them, nor serve them: for I the Lord thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me,

Revelation 9:20

King James Version

20 And the rest of the men which were not killed by these plagues yet repented not of the works of their hands, that they should not worship devils, and idols of gold, and silver, and brass, and stone, and of wood: which neither can see, nor hear, nor walk:

Galatians 5:19-21

King James Version

19 Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness,
20 Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies,
21 Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.

Exodus 20:3-6

King James Version

3 Thou shalt have no other gods before me.
4 Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth.
5 Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the Lord thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me;
6 And shewing mercy unto thousands of them that love me, and keep my commandments.

Psalm 135:15-18

King James Version

15 The idols of the heathen are silver and gold, the work of men's hands.
16 They have mouths, but they speak not; eyes have they, but they see not;
17 They have ears, but they hear not; neither is there any breath in their mouths.
18 They that make them are like unto them: so is every one that trusteth in them.

Revelation 21:8

King James Version

8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.

Leviticus 19:4

King James Version

4 Turn ye not unto idols, nor make to yourselves molten gods: I am the Lord your God.

Good Day, Sister. How are you all? Great post, Exodus 14 KJV, Exodus 15 KJV, Exodus 32 KJV, god used assyria to punish for its idolatry/Scriptures - Bing

Love, Walter and Debbie
 
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Good Day, Sister. How are you all? Great post, Exodus 14 KJV, Exodus 15 KJV, Exodus 32 KJV, god used assyria to punish for its idolatry/Scriptures - Bing

Love, Walter and Debbie
watch out for the ecumeincal progressive liberal led lie
as well as the Noahide law lie . THEY BOTH do the same agenda
they just preach it a little differently so as each side can recieve the same agenda
and not realize they are .
WE have GOT to get this people back into the scriptures
and remind them all , HOPE NOT and TRUST NOT IN MEN , in govts , in politics or etc
TO HOPE AND TRUST ONLY IN GOD and THUS THEIR HOPE WOULD HAVE BEEN IN HIS CHRIST .
all else is but winds of confusion meant to preach confusion to make ready
a world and all her religoins to be as ONE man under what they all beleive
is OF GOD and IS HIS LOVE and IS the means to attain peace n safety in this world .
WE are all being lied too . BUT GOD is not man that he can lie
and HIS words ARE TRUTH . Get them back into the scriptures and be in prayer .
 

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watch out for the ecumeincal progressive liberal led lie
as well as the Noahide law lie . THEY BOTH do the same agenda
they just preach it a little differently so as each side can recieve the same agenda
and not realize they are .
WE have GOT to get this people back into the scriptures
and remind them all , HOPE NOT and TRUST NOT IN MEN , in govts , in politics or etc
TO HOPE AND TRUST ONLY IN GOD and THUS THEIR HOPE WOULD HAVE BEEN IN HIS CHRIST .
all else is but winds of confusion meant to preach confusion to make ready
a world and all her religoins to be as ONE man under what they all beleive
is OF GOD and IS HIS LOVE and IS the means to attain peace n safety in this world .
WE are all being lied too . BUT GOD is not man that he can lie
and HIS words ARE TRUTH . Get them back into the scriptures and be in prayer .
Hello amigo de christo, Amen! Brother

Love, Walter
 
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Hello amigo de christo, Amen! Brother

Love, Walter
Hello my friend .
To the trenches . Get every man woman and child OUT of anything attached to what i wrote above .
Amigo LOVES the peoples , i cant say the same for satan and his ecumeincal whore . I dont see LOVE in that camp .
I See deception to keep them trapped in the bondage of sin and death . but man they sure do call it love .
Have i ever said that satan knows how to lie . he do and he does so through the flesh of man . HE KNOWS how to seduce .
And it ain t cause he loves us , ITS cause he desires the same thing
HE has always desired for man . DEATH . he didnt have eve eat of the tree cause HE Loved her
Funny cause todays ecumeincal love sure seems to do the same THING .