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Bob Estey

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Here is the definition of respect:

respect
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verb

re·spect ri-ˈspekt
respected; respecting; respects
transitive verb
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: to consider worthy of high regard : esteem

If you can show me where the Pharisees held Jesus in high regard, I will believe you.
I learned a definition of "atom" when I was in school. Fast forward fifty years. The definition has changed quite a lot.
 

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1. Walk with the Lord (1 Thessalonians 5:17).
2. You are safe (trust the Lord).
3. Enjoy your glory (assuming you've repented of your sin).
4. Take it easy (the Lord isn't a slave-driver).

Where is the most important part?, and its not '"repenting from sin".


Its this....

Jesus said...."You must be born again"..
 

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1. Walk with the Lord (1 Thessalonians 5:17).
2. You are safe (trust the Lord).
3. Enjoy your glory (assuming you've repented of your sin).
4. Take it easy (the Lord isn't a slave-driver).
God's peace doesn't mean inactivity; it does mean acceptance of God's plan and will for our lives. Enjoying our glory seems to come from Romans 8:28 and 29 as well as 2 Corinthians 3:18, which both seem to say that when we come to believe, God puts a spark of his glory in us. I can really enjoy his glory at the age of 82!
 
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God's peace doesn't mean inactivity; it does mean acceptance of God's plan and will for our lives. Enjoying our glory seems to come from Romans 8:28 and 29 as well as 2 Corinthians 3:18, which both seem to say that when we come to believe, God puts a spark of his glory in us. I can really enjoy his glory at the age of 82!
But I think it takes more than just believing - I think we need to obey.
 

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God's peace doesn't mean inactivity; it does mean acceptance of God's plan and will for our lives. Enjoying our glory seems to come from Romans 8:28 and 29 as well as 2 Corinthians 3:18, which both seem to say that when we come to believe, God puts a spark of his glory in us. I can really enjoy his glory at the age of 82!
More than a spark. His glory is His character of love, which in His people is seen by the fruit of the Spirit and their obedience to His commandments.

“Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus: ”
Philippians 2:5 KJV

“And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God. ”
Romans 12:2 KJV

“3 For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh: 4 That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit. 29 For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren. ”
Romans 8:3-4, 29 KJV
 
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How about just keeping Jesus second commandment "Love your neighbor as yourself" when you have mastered that I would say your there.

36 “Teacher, which is the greatest commandment in the Law?”

37 Jesus replied: “‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.’[a] 38 This is the first and greatest commandment. 39 And the second is like it: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’[b] 40 All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments.”
 

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Some things are self-evident. I think "respect" is one of those things.
Well I go with the dictionaries and common usage of language. If you have another source- please enlighten us. Obviously this "self evident" new understanding of the word respect hasn't gotten to all people. Maybe it is the state I live in is slow to get the memo.
 

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Well I go with the dictionaries and common usage of language. If you have another source- please enlighten us. Obviously this "self evident" new understanding of the word respect hasn't gotten to all people. Maybe it is the state I live in is slow to get the memo.
The people who write dictionaries aren't necessarily experts in theology.
 

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What happens if you are born again but decide to continue to sin?
Let me clue you in. I'm 82 years old and continue to sin. I mean that I still sometimes get frustrated and impatient and fail to pray when I should. We are all sinners, but the difference is that God motivates believers to want to avoid sinful emotions, decisions, and actions and to become more like Jesus. He empowers us to make progress, but we don't become perfect until we die because we are still saddled with this old self-centered nature until then.
 
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Let me clue you in. I'm 82 years old and continue to sin. I mean that I still sometimes get frustrated and impatient and fail to pray when I should. We are all sinners, but the difference is that God motivates believers to want to avoid sinful emotions, decisions, and actions and to become more like Jesus. He empowers us to make progress, but we don't become perfect until we die because we are still saddled with this old self-centered nature until then.
It seems to me we could stop sinning, if we chose to. Isn't that what Jesus instructed us to do? (Matthew 4:17)
 
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The people who write dictionaries aren't necessarily experts in theology.
so you are saying respect in theology is different from respect we use everyday in language? Sorry, but theology in order to be understood uses words we use daily and understand.

So if there is a respect that is different in theology than in every day use, please show me.
 

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so you are saying respect in theology is different from respect we use everyday in language? Sorry, but theology in order to be understood uses words we use daily and understand.

So if there is a respect that is different in theology than in every day use, please show me.
i am saying that people have no choice but to respect the righteous person, whether they like them or not. i don't know what a dictionary has to do with it
 

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It seems to me we could stop sinning, if we chose to. Isn't that what Jesus instructed us to do? (Matthew 4:17)
Yes, our goal among others is to become perfect, but since we are saddled with that old, sinful nature until we die, we won't free of it until then. Once God has enabled me to overcome the outward sins of my life, he gives me the huge challenge of overcoming the inward sins (for example, impulsiveness, impatience, frustration, pride, and so forth). It's only in the resurrection power of Jesus that we can make any progress. If we stop sinning on our own strength, we would be proud of it (a sin). See the book What God Has Done: My True, Dramatic God-Biography (Amazon).
 

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i am saying that people have no choice but to respect the righteous person, whether they like them or not. i don't know what a dictionary has to do with it
So show they have no choice. I see righteous persons disrespected all the time. If you force Christians to kneel and then put a bullet in the back of their head- that is not respect. If you think they do, then please show how.
 

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Yes, our goal among others is to become perfect, but since we are saddled with that old, sinful nature until we die, we won't free of it until then. Once God has enabled me to overcome the outward sins of my life, he gives me the huge challenge of overcoming the inward sins (for example, impulsiveness, impatience, frustration, pride, and so forth). It's only in the resurrection power of Jesus that we can make any progress. If we stop sinning on our own strength, we would be proud of it (a sin). See the book What God Has Done: My True, Dramatic God-Biography (Amazon).
I don't think we need to sin - its a choice, isn't it?