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did and do all angels have wings and why or why not - did two out of the three that visited Abraham at Mambre [Gen.18] have wings - it seems not since Abraham adored all three - winc
 

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Sometimes Angels are described having wings , and at times come in the appearance of men.

We are not told how they do it.

You are right about the three that came to Abraham , they appeared as men , were called angels , and I think Abe called them Lord if I am not mistaken.

One of those mind-benders in scripture that causes more questions than answers. Maybe it was the trinity come in human form , who knows.

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What did Paul in Hebrews 13 mean when he said to be remember to be hospitable to strangers, because some have entertained angels unaware?
 

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What did Paul in Hebrews 13 mean when he said to be remember to be hospitable to strangers, because some have entertained angels unaware?

so they dont have wings or else we would be aware if they had wings,so why wings sometimes and no wings other times - winc
 

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I know angels fly, but I don't know of a verse that says the actually have wings. Being spiritual beings, I don't see why they'd need wings to fly.
 

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As far as ANGELS are concerned, they don't have wings. Cherubim do but they are never called angels in the Bible, just Cherubim.

so an angel incarnate as a man came to Mary and said I have come to give you a child - sounds dodgy and blasphemy to me - winc
 

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so an angel incarnate as a man came to Mary and said I have come to give you a child - sounds dodgy and blasphemy to me - winc

Angels are NOT incarnate as we refer to Jesus. Angels TAKE ON physical characteristics when interacting with man. This is throughout the Bible. Jesus did the same thing before He was incarnate as well. He wrestled with Jacob at the ladder and dislocated his hip by touching it. He stood in the fiery furnace with Daniel, Hananiah, Mishael and Azariah.
God sent Gabriel to prophecy to Mary what would happen and to tell he the Holy Spirit would come upon her and the Spirit of the Most High would over shadow her. I think she got the message. You should read Luke 1 to get the full and complete story of this miracle in the making.
 

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What did Paul in Hebrews 13 mean when he said to be remember to be hospitable to strangers, because some have entertained angels unaware?

One of those intriguing verses in the bible Veteran ..... I often wonder how often they are around in modern day.

Several years ago I read a compilation written by credible folks who swear they had angels (in human form) save them from danger .... then disappear again .
 

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What did Paul in Hebrews 13 mean when he said to be remember to be hospitable to strangers, because some have entertained angels unaware?

I think he meant just that.... we entertain or are hospitable to strangers and some are angels. Many stories about this and other angelic events. The guardian Angel stories are NOT without foundation, although I do not believe we each have our own, but not knowing exactly how many there are, but in 2 Kings 6:17, Elisha's servant saw the hills FULL of them for just one event, with horses and chariots of fire even!
 

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did and do all angels have wings and why or why not - did two out of the three that visited Abraham at Mambre [Gen.18] have wings - it seems not since Abraham adored all three - winc

No angels have wings.
Not any.
Angels are male messengers, who always appear as men without wings.

If you want wings on your angels, read the "Twilight" series of books, or Roman Catholic nonsense.

Or you could read the Quran.


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(snip) ..... although I do not believe we each have our own .....

Hi Stan ..... I tend to think we do .... only based on the verse that says ..... "are not all angels ministering spirits sent to those who will inherit salvation "

May be wishful thinking on my part (thinking they are personal Angels for each of us)

Could also mean Angels are sent to all Christians .... (sort of like a blanket statement)

I think it is from Hebrews 1
 

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Hi Stan ..... I tend to think we do .... only based on the verse that says ..... "are not all angels ministering spirits sent to those who will inherit salvation "

May be wishful thinking on my part (thinking they are personal Angels for each of us)

Could also mean Angels are sent to all Christians .... (sort of like a blanket statement)

I think it is from Hebrews 1

I was raised RC and was taught that. I've looked at Heb 1:14 before and it seems, based on ALL the angel talk in Hebrews, that these ministering spirits are sent to to those who WILL(future tense) inherit salvation. Chapter 2 goes on to talk more about how angels ministered in the OT. These were regular occurrences and a regular part of the everyday Hebrew life and church.
It is clear from Heb 2 that in the world to come, angels will serve us. It seems to be a rather interesting and LONG topic, not easily addressed in this thread.
 

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did and do all angels have wings and why or why not - did two out of the three that visited Abraham at Mambre [Gen.18] have wings - it seems not since Abraham adored all three - winc

The word "angel" is the Hebrew word for messenger. It means nothing else. Where it is used it will say whether the messenger had wings or not or whether the messenger is of the devil or of God.
 

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I was raised RC and was taught that. I've looked at Heb 1:14 before and it seems, based on ALL the angel talk in Hebrews, that these ministering spirits are sent to to those who WILL(future tense) inherit salvation. Chapter 2 goes on to talk more about how angels ministered in the OT. These were regular occurrences and a regular part of the everyday Hebrew life and church.
It is clear from Heb 2 that in the world to come, angels will serve us. It seems to be a rather interesting and LONG topic, not easily addressed in this thread.

so as an RC what do you think about Guardian angels or the flying angels that "will bear thee up lest thy foot should strike a stone" - twinc

The word "angel" is the Hebrew word for messenger. It means nothing else. Where it is used it will say whether the messenger had wings or not or whether the messenger is of the devil or of God.

so how about the holy than thou archangels - btw are there any arch saints - twinc
 

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so as an RC what do you think about Guardian angels or the flying angels that "will bear thee up lest thy foot should strike a stone"

I said I WAS. Please read my previous responses. After ALL, you're the OP, you're supposed to pay attention.
You see, this is what happens when you 'pick' a scripture out of context.
Luke 4:11 is Satan quoting Psalm 91:12. This Psalm is about committing and following God. It's NOT about Jesus. This is what the devil does, he missues scripture, ALWAYS. Unfortunately people emulate him in the same way. Yes, Satan tempted Jesus to throw Himself off the mountain, but look at Jesus' response to Satan quoting scripture. He quotes scripture back to Satan in the very next verse; Jesus answered, "It says: 'Do not put the Lord your God to the test.'" Then look what happened in the next verse, the devil LEFT. That is how we deal with lies, we shed God's truth on them and they dissappear. In any event, angels do not NEED wings to fly. How do you think they get here? Not by flying.
 

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so they dont have wings or else we would be aware if they had wings,so why wings sometimes and no wings other times - winc

The deeper answer to that is given by God in His Word, but I won't go into it here. You'll have to make a Biblical comparison of all Bible Scripture where those wings are mentioned in association with the beasts that guard His Throne, and compare them with each other. That's only a start.

I think he meant just that.... we entertain or are hospitable to strangers and some are angels. Many stories about this and other angelic events. The guardian Angel stories are NOT without foundation, although I do not believe we each have our own, but not knowing exactly how many there are, but in 2 Kings 6:17, Elisha's servant saw the hills FULL of them for just one event, with horses and chariots of fire even!

The Hebrews 13 example reveals that angel messengers don't necessarily have literal wings. Otherwise one would definitely know if they were entertaining an angel in their home.

Also, the idea that an angel must go through some metamorphization to appear here on earth is not Biblically supported. The image likeness of 'man' originates from God's Own Image, as we're shown early in Gen.1:26-27. That's what angels have too, the image of man, and it has nothing to do with the flesh. Even the meaning from the Hebrew for Archangel's Gabriel's name is 'man of God'.
 

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Also, the idea that an angel must go through some metamorphization to appear here on earth is not Biblically supported. The image likeness of 'man' originates from God's Own Image, as we're shown early in Gen.1:26-27. That's what angels have too, the image of man, and it has nothing to do with the flesh. Even the meaning from the Hebrew for Archangel's Gabriel's name is 'man of God'.


That is your word, not mine. The human likeness IS supported by all the depictions in the Bible. God created man in His image, tripartite. It doesn't mean physical ONLY. Yes Jesus already existed, so part of our image is as a physical being. However they all exist in a meta-physical or spiritual realm so they have to be transformed into human or solid beings to be seen. That for God is NOT a problem, just as we will be changed in the twinkling of an eye, when Jesus returns.