Wokeness is a Secular Religion.

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Hobie

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This is very interesting and makes sense...

""Wokeness" has become so pervasive across America's institutions from schools to corporations that author Vivek Ramaswamy argues it meets the Supreme Court test for religion.

"Wokeness is a secular religion. It isn't a religion based on God. It isn't a religion that offers a path to redemption, but it is a secular religion nonetheless," Ramaswamy, author of Woke, Inc. tells CBN News.

In his new book, Ramaswamy lays out legal solutions for people who've been fired for not ascribing to this religion of wokeness.

"When you have a moral vacuum that runs that deep, that's when secular dark religions like wokeness start to fill the void as we have seen the things that used to fill that void: patriotism, faith, hard work on the decline or nearly disappearing ? that's what allows 'woke-ism' to effectively become opium for the American soul," Ramaswamy explains....

He proposes adding political speech and belief to the list of protected classes, which he says is needed to fight a form of discrimination reaching scary heights.

"In my opinion, it is certainly far more rampant than racial discrimination which we instead obsess over and we need to apply those standards evenhandedly," he says.

And now as multi-national American companies like Coke, Disney, and Nike impose this new religion ? he says foes like China are benefiting at the expense of the United States. "What they've recognized is that American wokeness ? they even have a word for it ? this is cultural weakness."

Because he says, America's greatest asset on the national stage isn't our military might, it's our moral standing.

"They get companies like Disney, or Nike, or associations like the NBA or celebrities like LeBron James to criticize the United States relentlessly about alleged social injustice but they do not say a peep in China ? in fact, many of them actually praise China and the reason they do it is because that is their condition to be allowed to enter the Chinese market."

And he says the hypocrisy is astounding.

"One of them is Disney's hypocrisy, in particular, saying they could not shoot a film in the state of Georgia if Georgia passed an anti-abortion statute ? the equivalent of a heartbeat bill a couple of years ago but last year they shoot Mulan in the Xingjiang province of China literally ground zero of the Uighur human rights crisis and not only do they stay silent ? at the end of the film they actually praise China ? they thank the Xingjiang authorities at the end of the film in the credits ? you can see it today. Those are the same authorities who are responsible for enslaving the Uighurs," he says.

Tech companies, he says, are also using the woke corporate culture to their advantage.

"What you're seeing right now especially in big tech is big government is now dispatching big tech to do through a back door what it could not directly do under the constitution ? namely to censor political speech and alleged hate speech and misinformation that it did not like to see online."

All while enjoying legal protection from liability. In his book, Ramaswamy argues ? if tech companies are acting as agents of the state, then they should be bound by the First Amendment to the Constitution.

He hopes his book will help Americans wake up and realize what's at stake."...... https://www2.cbn.com/news/us/wokene...nes-light-dangers-woke-corporate-culture
 

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I ran this guy through google and one of the first things listed as a you tube video where he defines "woke".


His concept was that it is often pointed out from the left that conservatives toss the work "woke " around but can't define the word. So Ramaswamy goes on to define the word in what he claims is neutral terms....he lied about that he was anything but neutral. Worse he failed miserably at defining woke. Either he didn't take the time to find out what woke actually means or he purposefully lied about its meaning to pander to a specific audience.

The word has been around for almost a century. In simplest terms it means to be alert to and aware of prejudice and discrimination. Specifically its being alert to the discrimination that is embedded in the legal system and in government policy.

So no, it is not a religion.
 

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Woah! Don't give too much credit there.

Wokeness is the work of the Devil - and the Devil doesn't do religions.

I know people say "Satanism is of the Devil", but to me that is "ritual" not religion.
 
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I ran this guy through google and one of the first things listed as a you tube video where he defines "woke".


His concept was that it is often pointed out from the left that conservatives toss the work "woke " around but can't define the word. So Ramaswamy goes on to define the word in what he claims is neutral terms....he lied about that he was anything but neutral. Worse he failed miserably at defining woke. Either he didn't take the time to find out what woke actually means or he purposefully lied about its meaning to pander to a specific audience.

The word has been around for almost a century. In simplest terms it means to be alert to and aware of prejudice and discrimination. Specifically its being alert to the discrimination that is embedded in the legal system and in government policy.

So no, it is not a religion.
Wrong! It is a religion. Anything that is believed in, and is performed methodically, that causes one to live by, is a religious function of a religion.
 

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I ran this guy through google and one of the first things listed as a you tube video where he defines "woke".


His concept was that it is often pointed out from the left that conservatives toss the work "woke " around but can't define the word. So Ramaswamy goes on to define the word in what he claims is neutral terms....he lied about that he was anything but neutral. Worse he failed miserably at defining woke. Either he didn't take the time to find out what woke actually means or he purposefully lied about its meaning to pander to a specific audience.

The word has been around for almost a century. In simplest terms it means to be alert to and aware of prejudice and discrimination. Specifically its being alert to the discrimination that is embedded in the legal system and in government policy.

So no, it is not a religion.
And you base it on the person rather than the issue?
 
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Woah! Don't give too much credit there.

Wokeness is the work of the Devil - and the Devil doesn't do religions.

I know people say "Satanism is of the Devil", but to me that is "ritual" not religion.
Have you seen the worship of the sun and idols in the apostate church.. need to read up.. Amazon.com
 

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Wrong! It is a religion. Anything that is believed in, and is performed methodically, that causes one to live by, is a religious function of a religion.
exactly what is being believed in? What is being "performed" and how is it causing anyone to live in any particualr way?
 

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And you base it on the person rather than the issue?

You introduced this person as the focal point of the OP. Should I ignore him?


The issue is how a concept that was part of the fabric of life for particular minority groups has been co-opted, redefined and turned into a slur to be used against those minorities.

The anti-woke hysteria is really an attack on minorities. People who are aware of systemic discrimination are vilified by Ramaswamy.

If you are woke you are in a moral vacuum.
Those who are woke are not patriotic.
Those who are woke cannot possibly share in the faith that you do.
Those who are woke are lazy
 
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exactly what is being believed in?

to be alert to and aware of prejudice and discrimination.


The word ‘woke’ has been around for a long time but ‘wokism’ is synonymous with Cultural Marxism.

You are a racist and advocate FOR racial policies so long as it benefits a race you prefer. See Supreme Court decision yesterday ENDING institutional racism in college emissions and the Woke Left went apoplectic.

NOTE: Deliberate use of emission rather than admission.
 
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The word ‘woke’ has been around for a long time but ‘wokism’ is synonymous with Cultural Marxism.
You think potato chips are a conspiracy of cultural marxism.
You are a racist
I am?
and advocate FOR racial policies so long as it benefits a race you prefer.
and what policies would those be?
See Supreme Court decision yesterday ENDING institutional racism in college emissions and the Woke Left went apoplectic.

NOTE: Deliberate use of emission rather than admission.
The Supreme Court making the world safe for mediocre white people.
 

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exactly what is being believed in? What is being "performed" and how is it causing anyone to live in any particualr way?
Ramaswamy defined "woke" correctly: "The word has been around for almost a century. In simplest terms it means to be alert to and aware of prejudice and discrimination. Specifically its being alert to the discrimination that is embedded in the legal system and in government policy."

Unfortunately, civil society has taken it and is persecuting others, using it as a religion to make businesses, schools, and the medical field to conform to their own demands. The "new religion" is called the "Luciferian Doctrine",
 
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Ramaswamy defined "woke" correctly:
Well that is BS
Unfortunately, civil society has taken it and is persecuting others, using it as a religion to make businesses, schools, and the medical field to conform to their own demands. The "new religion" is called the "Luciferian Doctrine",
Are you being persecuted?
 

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Yes, you are a racist. The policy is precisely the one that the Supreme Court struck down. Because of your racism, you automatically make a racist comment at the removal of discriminatory admission practice.
Quote me
 

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You introduced this person as the focal point of the OP. Should I ignore him?


The issue is how a concept that was part of the fabric of life for particular minority groups has been co-opted, redefined and turned into a slur to be used against those minorities.

The anti-woke hysteria is really an attack on minorities. People who are aware of systemic discrimination are vilified by Ramaswamy.

If you are woke you are in a moral vacuum.
Those who are woke are not patriotic.
Those who are woke cannot possibly share in the faith that you do.
Those who are woke are lazy
The heading is clear "Wokeness is a Secular Religion", and its not about a person
 
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The heading is clear "Wokeness is a Secular Religion", and its not about a person
the op is based on the he laughable claims of one person and consists almost entirely of a direct quote from him.

Of course if you wanted it to be about something other than this person you could try addressing the points made in posts
 

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Well that is BS

Are you being persecuted?
Persecution is based upon the opinions of others.
When people are manipulated to accept behavior that is naturally against the majority of human society, that is persecution against their conscience of what they rule to be naturally right for thousands of years.

Sexual intercourse is for a loving husband and a loving wife, for the continuation of the human species, and not as others would have us believe, being that of lustful recreation and entertainment with whoever.
God created Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve.
 
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Persecution is based upon the opinions of others.
When people are manipulated to accept behavior that is naturally against the majority of human society, that is persecution against their conscience of what they rule to be naturally right for thousands of years.
Interracial marriage?
woman's suffrage?
civil rights?
Sexual intercourse is for a loving husband and a loving wife, for the continuation of the human species, and not as others would have us believe, being that of lustful recreation and entertainment with whoever.
God created Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve.
Who created Steve?
 

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the op is based on the he laughable claims of one person and consists almost entirely of a direct quote from him.

Of course if you wanted it to be about something other than this person you could try addressing the points made in posts
Looks like IMHO that you have a comprehension issue of what the issue is about and try to send it on another tangent..
 

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Interracial marriage?
woman's suffrage?
civil rights?

Who created Steve?
Your suggestions are not addressing the sexual equation of husband and wife in marriages.

If you want it to be that the first two humans of God's creation were Adam and Steve as one flesh, then your opinion is persecuting my conscience of what I and the majority of people experience and understand.
 
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