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SkyWriting
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Evidently it does not teach that, because treating people
not like you would wish to be treated yourself violates
the golden rule and the summation of how you are
to act as a Christian, as you stated.
“So whatever you wish that others would do to you,
do also to them, for this is the Law and the Prophets.
Jesus certainly does not promote that, but Paul, who never
saw Jesus in action, did. Paul, it seems, was not a grown up.
But it did not nullify God created differences between men and women.
So that is a factor in the golden rule.
Equal in the eyes of men and in the eyes of God are not identical ideas. Consider the various parts of the Body of Christ? God loves each and everyone of them, be they in the flesh male or female, but their functions are not the same... that is not equal... but then again:
"For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus
For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ.
There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.
And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise." Gal 3:26-29
"So when even was come, the lord of the vineyard saith unto his steward, Call the labourers, and give them their hire, beginning from the last unto the first.
And when they came that were hired about the eleventh hour, they received every man a penny.
But when the first came, they supposed that they should have received more; and they likewise received every man a penny." Matt 20:8-10
What they had in common was that each and every one had endured until the end. Their reward for that was the same: a penny.
Men want to divide them according to time spent, but the Master would not allow such thinking or such judgements:
"But he answered one of them, and said, Friend, I do thee no wrong: didst not thou agree with me for a penny?
Take that thine is, and go thy way: I will give unto this last, even as unto thee.
Is it not lawful for me to do what I will with mine own? Is thine eye evil, because I am good?
So the last shall be first, and the first last: for many be called, but few chosen." Matt 20:13-16
All equal in that they all endured to the end of their course with the Lord, but men are treated differently according to who is first and who is last...
What does this mean?
SkyWriting
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You
treat others
just as
you would want others to treat you.
So this has zero to do with their differences that you imagine or perceive.
Male, female, sexual orientation, political affiliation, color, how many heads they have...etc.
SkyWriting
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Those who put others as first, receive that treatment from God.
"Let nothing be done through strife or vainglory; but in lowliness of mind let each esteem other better than themselves." Phil 2:3
SkyWriting
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SkyWriting
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Very very strange.
Seek ye first: Matthew 7:12
“So whatever you wish that others would do to you,
do also to them, for this is the Law and the Prophets.
Then you will discover many strange "Christian" teachings
out of line with Matt 7:12.
If you keep reading, husbands are also to love and submit themselves to their wives also. As far as the church goes everyone has different roles in the church. I'm a gal and I don't mind if a man is a head and I am a hand. Women are secretely in charge anyway. Bahaha. :)
101G
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Women played every role that men played. women in God's eye are just as males. picking up on my brother amadeus, and that's as G80 ἀδελφός adelphos brother.... (smile). women held positions as men did. since I'm controversial, we might as well go for the jugular, ...... the first "BISHOP"/Pope/PASTOR .... at the church of Rome was not the apostle Peter, but a woman. and we have the first church father's letter to back this up. I know my catholic friends here on the site, or else where when readind this post will disagree, but sorry, the bible speaks truth.
the woman name is our sister Phebe, who was a minister at Cenchrea, now bishop/pastor at Rome. well let's see it.
Romans 16:1 "I commend unto you Phebe our sister, which is a servant of the church which is at Cenchrea:
Romans 16:2 "That ye receive her in the Lord, as becometh saints, and that ye assist her in whatsoever business she hath need of you: for she hath been a succourer of many, and of myself also.
Romans 16:3 "Greet Priscilla and Aquila my helpers in Christ Jesus"
My bad, we will see "TWO" count them 2 female BISHOPS.
first let's get the bishops who are female. Female Bishop #1. Priscilla, our sister. how do we know that she's a bishop. it's in the word "helper" in verse 3 here above.
Helper: G4904 συνεργός sunergos (sïn-er-ğos') adj.
a co-laborer, i.e. coadjutor.
[from a presumed compound of G4862 and the base of G2041]
KJV: companion in labour, (fellow-)helper(-labourer, -worker), labourer together with, workfellow
Root(s): G4862, G2041
Now my catholic friends here on the site will recognize the word "coadjutor" and know it's meaning. but for the rest who may not know one can, while online go to dictionary.com and look up "coadjutor" which means, 1. an assistant. 2. an assistant to a bishop or other ecclesiastic. 3. a bishop who assists another bishop, with the right of succession.
definition #3. gives us our answer. it was Priscilla and Aquila, who are bishops who helped the apostle Paul who is a bishop/pastor appoint our sister Phebe who by the way is a BISHOP herself. how do we know that? answer, she is a "succourer", see verse 2 above. it's the Greek word,
G4368 προστάτις prostatis (pro-sta'-tis) n.
a patroness, i.e. assistant.
[feminine of a derivative of G4291]
KJV: succourer
Root(s): G4291
Oh, she's an "assisant also, but here's the REVELATION, she's the feminine of a derivative of G429. ok, so what is G429? let's have a look see.
G4291 προΐστημι proistemi (pro-iy'-stee-miy) v.
1. to stand before.
2. (in rank) to preside.
3. (by implication) to practise.
[from G4253 and G2476]
KJV: maintain, be over, rule
sound like a bishop, but let's never assume anything. let's see what brother Thayer and his Greek Definitions say.
Original: προΐ́στημι
- Transliteration: Proistemi
- Phonetic: pro-is'-tay-mee
- Definition:
1. to set or place before
a. to set over
b. to be over, to superintend, preside over
c. to be a protector or guardian
1. to give aid
d. to care for, give attention to
1. profess honest occupations
- Origin: from G4253 and G2476
- TDNT entry: 6:700,*
- Part(s) of speech: Verb
well let's see what do BISHOP means, G1985 ἐπίσκοπος episkopos (e-piy'-sko-pos) n.
1. an overseer.
2. (in genitive case) one of the co-superintendents entrusted with the well-being of a local assembly or of assemblies within a city or location.
{literally or figuratively}
[from G1909 and G4649 (in the sense of G1983)]
KJV: bishop, overseer
well now, we don't have to assume any more. for Rome a city, and the church was in the first stages of organization.
so we see two women right in the bible who are "bishops"/Pastor/Overseer. and our sister Phebe, who is the feminine of a derivative of G4291 a woman in the "SAME" position as a man. just a man is called prophet, and the woman in the same position is called a prophetess. well our sister Phebe was in the samr positions as a male in "rule over", to superintend.
what a bible we have. it's call the "Good news" ..... (smile).
PICJAG.
My, my, my so overlook women in the bible.
101G
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but a whore out front, as well as Daivd her lover, who comitted the whordom with her. they both was in the wrong.
so the good the bad and the ugly, we all are in the same boat. just like the woman caught in adultery, John 8, well she didn't commit adultery by herself. women have been given a bad rap by "MEN", but not by God. so we all need to get the story "RIGHT". we all are in need of "forgivness", both men and women.
PICJAG.
PICJAG.
101G
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yes, we need to get to women of other nationalities. with Zipporah went out the window interracial marriages. as with Joseph and Asenath the daughter of Potipherah priest of On, an Egyptian. who two of the tribes of Israel came, Manasseh and Ephraim. boy, oh boy, God don't discriminate, only when it come to him and his word.
there are many women of color in the bible. amen
PICJAG.
Man is the head and the wife is a wise advisor.
After 46 years I am very aware of where each of our strengths reside.
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