WOMEN AREN'T TO SPEAK IN TONGUES IN THE CHURCH

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I wasn't disagreeing with you. I was just using the quotes as addressees, so you would read what I said
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Look at Romans 8:9. "But you are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if the Spirit of God dwells within you. And if the Spirit of Christ is not in you, you do not belong to Him.

It appears there are three Holy Spirits, but in reality they are One.
What three? Can you break them down for me?
Does it bother you when I lower case h&s 'holy spirit' of Jesus when posting? Or do you think it should be upper H&S?
 

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"" like if 1 Corinthians 14:2 is the rule that no man understands tongues, then how could they understand the tongues on the Day of Pentecost?""
Acts 2:6-8 Tongues were in a known language.
1 Cor 14:2 Refers to unknown tongues.
Your 7 years with Christ will be able to easily teach where Pastor Alex Kurz is wrong :)
https://messages.shorewoodbiblechurch.org/WEBMedia/H/2021-05-23T10-33-36_1682522423.MP3
There are two different 'tongues', for the 'cloven tongue' in Acts is to proclaim the Gospel to all nation, in the 'divers tongue known to men'.

And men born from other nations and tongues in Jerusalem that day, heard these 'unlearned Galileans' speak themselves that caused them to be 'amazed'.

All of them heard in the tongues they were born and grew with depending on the nations, where the Apostles proclaiming the 'Good Works Of GOD/Gospel'

The message was new and never heard off, and divided were their opinion, so they needed furthermore clarification, and that's when Peter spoke up explaining.

As a result, 3,000 of them gave their lives to Christ and the teaching did continue furthermore in discipleship.

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And the 'unknown tongues' in Corinthians are spoken 'not unto men', but unto GOD, that is apparently the 'tongues of angels' which is spoken in Heaven, even worshiping GOD there.

It is spoken 'indoor' in the 'gathering of saints in Christ', between them and GOD, even worshiping HIM, and together they may end by saying, 'Amen'.

That is when everyone in the 'gathering' understand what is spoken by this language, since only a few spoke them, and needed 'interpretation' for whole congregation to understand.

Therefore in order for all of them together in agreeance say, 'Amen', henceforth all of them are 'edified' equally in charity for one another.

When there's no 'interpretation' cum only the one who speak in the spirit is 'edified' and not the church/congregation, hence he is to speak in 'silent' between himself and GOD.

Why it is 'indoor', because the same chapter speaks about people 'walking in' during this proceedings and witnessing for themselves.

Indeed when all the gifted in unknown tongues were to speak together without interpretation, and to the walk in who's unaware, is apparently 'meaningless' and 'crazy'.

But when only 2 or 3 speak at a time and is interpreted in the common language everyone understands as in orderly fashion, as a result is meaningful and 'a sign' even to strangers.

Shalom in the name of Lord Jesus Christ.
 

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There are two different 'tongues', for the 'cloven tongue' in Acts is to proclaim the Gospel to all nation, in the 'divers tongue known to men'.

And men born from other nations and tongues in Jerusalem that day, heard these 'unlearned Galileans' speak themselves that caused them to be 'amazed'.

All of them heard in the tongues they were born and grew with depending on the nations, where the Apostles proclaiming the 'Good Works Of GOD/Gospel'

The message was new and never heard off, and divided were their opinion, so they needed furthermore clarification, and that's when Peter spoke up explaining.

As a result, 3,000 of them gave their lives to Christ and the teaching did continue furthermore in discipleship.

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And the 'unknown tongues' in Corinthians are spoken 'not unto men', but unto GOD, that is apparently the 'tongues of angels' which is spoken in Heaven, even worshiping GOD there.

It is spoken 'indoor' in the 'gathering of saints in Christ', between them and GOD, even worshiping HIM, and together they may end by saying, 'Amen'.

That is when everyone in the 'gathering' understand what is spoken by this language, since only a few spoke them, and needed 'interpretation' for whole congregation to understand.

Therefore in order for all of them together in agreeance say, 'Amen', henceforth all of them are 'edified' equally in charity for one another.

When there's no 'interpretation' cum only the one who speak in the spirit is 'edified' and not the church/congregation, hence he is to speak in 'silent' between himself and GOD.

Why it is 'indoor', because the same chapter speaks about people 'walking in' during this proceedings and witnessing for themselves.

Indeed when all the gifted in unknown tongues were to speak together without interpretation, and to the walk in who's unaware, is apparently 'meaningless' and 'crazy'.

But when only 2 or 3 speak at a time and is interpreted in the common language everyone understands as in orderly fashion, as a result is meaningful and 'a sign' even to strangers.

Shalom in the name of Lord Jesus Christ.
FJ wrote ""But when only 2 or 3 speak at a time and is interpreted in the common language everyone understand""
As yet I have not seen a video recording of such an event.
Are there any that you are aware of ?
 

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FJ wrote ""But when only 2 or 3 speak at a time and is interpreted in the common language everyone understand""
As yet I have not seen a video recording of such an event.
Are there any that you are aware of ?
You are right and me too haven't.

Because the churches now are not true to the every word that proceeded out of the mouth of GOD and in 'lawlessness'.

Not surprising even in the Old Testament, when GOD's away, the generation over time become complacent to the Word of GOD.

And furthermore get sucked in for doctrine for teaching the commandments of men and traditions, mixed with the ways of this world gradually.

That's why as a result in fruit, you already have 'homosexual' churches and pastors over time.

But there was once a church gathering in a house i was invited to, and during prayer a sister spoke in unknown tongue, and at the same time interpreted in English.

The only time i got blown away, as it is written scripturally and is happening right in front of me.

i didn't take it seriously then, until you have asked me now in regards and am regretting not taking down her number.
 

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You are right and me too haven't.

Because the churches now are not true to the every word that proceeded out of the mouth of GOD and in 'lawlessness'.

Not surprising even in the Old Testament, when GOD's away, the generation over time become complacent to the Word of GOD.

And furthermore get sucked in for doctrine for teaching the commandments of men and traditions, mixed with the ways of this world gradually.

That's why as a result in fruit, you already have 'homosexual' churches and pastors over time.

during prayer a sister spoke in unknown tongue, and at the same time interpreted in English., and during prayer a sister spoke in unknown tongue, and at the same time interpreted in English.

The only time i got blown away, as it is written scripturally and is happening right in front of me.

i didn't take it seriously then, until you have asked me now in regards and am regretting not taking down her number.
FJ said >> ""during prayer a sister spoke in unknown tongue, and at the same time interpreted in English.""
1 Cor 14:34 Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak;
>>>>> "" and at the same time interpreted in English.""
I could pre-rehearse some 'tongue' then add my interpretation to it when finished.
Would you be convinced by my interpretation or by an independent interpreter ?
 

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FJ said >> ""during prayer a sister spoke in unknown tongue, and at the same time interpreted in English.""
1 Cor 14:34 Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak;
>>>>> "" and at the same time interpreted in English.""
I could pre-rehearse some 'tongue' then add my interpretation to it when finished.
Would you be convinced by my interpretation or by an independent interpreter ?
1 Corinthians 11:
5. But every woman that prayeth or prophesieth ..............................................


Women do pray and prophesy in church one at a time taking turns with men(vs.4), during, they may speak in unknown tongues and interpret in the common language everyone there know.

You're unable to distinguish lacking wisdom from above, that what you've quoted is addressed to the women in the audience, not to cause a disturbance during service and proceeding.
 

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1 Corinthians 11:
5. But every woman that prayeth or prophesieth ..............................................


Women do pray and prophesy in church one at a time taking turns with men(vs.4), during, they may speak in unknown tongues and interpret in the common language everyone there know.

You're unable to distinguish lacking wisdom from above, that what you've quoted is addressed to the women in the audience, not to cause a disturbance during service and proceeding.
Keep trying FuJ :)
""The easy harmonization between 1 Cor 11:5 and 1 Cor 14:34 is that women should be silent in church, but are free to pray and prophesy outside the meeting of the church. (Of course, if prophesy is not a gift today, then today women would be free to pray and teach outside the church meeting.)""
 

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Keep trying FuJ :)
""The easy harmonization between 1 Cor 11:5 and 1 Cor 14:34 is that women should be silent in church, but are free to pray and prophesy outside the meeting of the church. (Of course, if prophesy is not a gift today, then today women would be free to pray and teach outside the church meeting.)""
You're just going 'off' gibberish by yourself and in 'vain', suite yourself and no thank you.
 

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You're just going 'off' gibberish by yourself and in 'vain', suite yourself and no thank you.
Apparently you have a PhD in theological studies so are able to rebuke what was listed for you to read.
Your qualifications are ? :gd
 

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Apparently you have a PhD in theological studies so are able to rebuke what was listed for you to read.
Your qualifications are ? :gd
Are you 'elated' you've got the last say, congratulations and the award goes to ............