You ever here this question from non-believers? Why did God kill in the OT and say Love others in the NT ?

[rodm777]

2 seeds are in Genesis 3:15 "Your seed vs her seed"... This is why...

Satan has a seed. This is clearly stated and needs no interpretation: In hermeneutics, what applies to Eve in the same sentence also applies to Satan.

So the one seed, had to be destroyed or they would have killed off the linage that led to Christ.

Eve's seed goes all the way to Mary, the mother of Jesus.

 

[XtraPercept]

I do not contest your assertion, I only offer my own.

Prior to the ascension of Christ, man could not possess the indwelling Spirit. Although the patriarchs seemed to bear the mantle of righteousness by nature, Israel was generally directed externally. An aspect of the beauty of Christ crucified is that since then we may be guided from within as individuals.

In other words, the manner by which the Lord directed His people was fundamentally altered by the successful mission of Jesus.

 

[pandaflower]

2 seeds are in Genesis 3:15 "Your seed vs her seed"... This is why...

Satan has a seed. This is clearly stated and needs no interpretation: In hermeneutics, what applies to Eve in the same sentence also applies to Satan.

So the one seed, had to be destroyed or they would have killed off the linage that led to Christ.

Eve's seed goes all the way to Mary, the mother of Jesus.

To expand your studies in that line you might research the serpent seed doctrine.

It's considered heresy and yet it comports with your post.

 

[soberxp]

You ever here this question from non-believers? Why did God kill in the OT and say Love others in the NT ?

God goes from severity to mercy as he sees fit.
If you don't understand this process, you don't understand God's word properly.

From Exodus to Jesus Christ on the cross, rising from the dead, this is God's plan of salvation, more important than all, this process is serious, severe, Rigorous.

At this stage, God has given humanity all the mercy because of Jesus Christ.

As if God were dead, God no longer cared about the world, and man could even do as man pleased, but only because of the mercy of redemption,because of Jesus Christ.

 

[pandaflower]

So too there are those who translate the old documents to realize,as example, Eloheim is not a name of God.

It is a Hebrew word that in part translates as,gods.

Which would then help in the quandary identified in the OP.

Early Hebrews were Polytheists first.

 

[soberxp]

So too there are those who translate the old documents to realize,as example, Eloheim is not a name of God.

It is a Hebrew word that in part translates as,gods.

Which would then help in the quandary identified in the OP.

Early Hebrews were Polytheists first.

I didn't catch your meaning.

 

[pandaflower]

I didn't catch your meaning.

One of the reasons the God of the OT could be of vengeance,while the NT God is one of love could be,per some translators, because they're different Dieties.

Some say that would make sense. Because if Jesus is The Word,God,made flesh and that same God who was in Eden and cursed Adam and Eve,then that God sent himself to change the human condition of sin and damnation that he decreed himself.
That would be odd if God,as he says,does not change.

Whereas,if there are different dieties, God's,then Jesus,who is the benevolent God,came to die and pay the sin ransom for condemned humanity that the other OT God in Eden decreed against humanity.

 

[soberxp]

One of the reasons the God of the OT could be of vengeance,while the NT God is one of love could be,per some translators, because they're different Dieties.

Some say that would make sense. Because if Jesus is The Word,God,made flesh and that same God who was in Eden and cursed Adam and Eve,then that God sent himself to change the human condition of sin and damnation that he decreed himself.
That would be odd if God,as he says,does not change.

Whereas,if there are different dieties, God's,then Jesus,who is the benevolent God,came to die and pay the sin ransom for condemned humanity that the other OT God in Eden decreed against humanity.

This is not the case with God in the Old Testament.
God created the life, He drove Adam and Eve out of the Garden of Eden, let them have kids to learn what is life, I don't think they could have "sex" in the Garden of Eden.

Do you understand God's plan to redeem humanity?
Pharaoh thwarted God's plan by not letting the Israelites leave Egypt, so God started many scourges.
After leaving Egypt, the first race to stop Israel from going to the promised land, God vowed to fight it for generations to come.

Have you ever wondered what it would be like for God to forgive them in a merciful rather than a harsh way, and let Pharaoh detain the Israelites at will?

 

[Debp]

Someone just asked me that question.

Both Old and New Testaments show God as having both mercy and compassion but also wrath and justice against sin.

The OT Israelites were commanded by God to kill the other peoples' groups because the other peoples were idolators and some groups were extremely perverse in their evil doings. So that perverseness would have spread.

 

[pandaflower]

This is not the case with God in the Old Testament.
God created the life, He drove Adam and Eve out of the Garden of Eden, let them have kids to learn what is life, I don't think they could have "sex" in the Garden of Eden.

Genesis 1.
God told Adam and Eve to be fruitful and multiply before they ate of the Tree of Knowledge.

Do you understand God's plan to redeem humanity?

Think about it.

Pharaoh thwarted God's plan by not letting the Israelites leave Egypt, so God started many scourges.
After leaving Egypt, the first race to stop Israel from going to the promised land, God vowed to fight it for generations to come.

If you read Exodus you'll see the He rew slaves were there for quite awhile.

Before God sent Moses to deliver them from Egypt, God told Moses he would harden Pharaoh's heart so that he would not do so.

This was to show Pharaoh the God of the slaves was more powerful than the polytheistic pantheon of the Egyptian Deities.

Pharaoh could not let God's people go until God lifted the hardening from Pharaoh's heart were direct challenges to the Egyptian gods and goddesses domains. The Nile,the crops,etc...

Have you ever wondered what it would be like for God to forgive them in a merciful rather than a harsh way, and let Pharaoh detain the Israelites at will?

Pharaoh couldn't let them go at will. God insured that could not happen.

 

[soberxp]

Genesis 1.
God told Adam and Eve to be fruitful and multiply before they ate of the Tree of Knowledge.

Jesus Christ also said that there is no marriage in the kingdom of heaven.

Have the rules of heaven changed?

 

[pandaflower]

Jesus Christ also said that there is no marriage in the kingdom of heaven.

Have the rules of heaven changed?

Why are you trying to conflate the two?

Eden,be fruitful and multiply, with no marriage in Heaven?

Adam and Eve were made one by God's design in the beginning.

Why would there be marriage where souls go? When our flesh returns to the dust from which it sprang.

 

[soberxp]

Genesis 1.
God told Adam and Eve to be fruitful and multiply before they ate of the Tree of Knowledge.


Think about it.



If you read Exodus you'll see the He rew slaves were there for quite awhile.

Before God sent Moses to deliver them from Egypt, God told Moses he would harden Pharaoh's heart so that he would not do so.

This was to show Pharaoh the God of the slaves was more powerful than the polytheistic pantheon of the Egyptian Deities.

Pharaoh could not let God's people go until God lifted the hardening from Pharaoh's heart were direct challenges to the Egyptian gods and goddesses domains. The Nile,the crops,etc...


Pharaoh couldn't let them go at will. God insured that could not happen.

Of course I know that Egypt was a country has slave .

God was hardening Pharaoh's heart, but at first Pharaoh agreed to release the Israelites, but then he changed his mind.

I don't fully understand God's purpose in doing this. Maybe it just shows that man has free will, but free will is limited before God.

 

[soberxp]

Why are you trying to conflate the two?

Eden,be fruitful and multiply, with no marriage in Heaven?

Adam and Eve were made one by God's design in the beginning.

Why would there be marriage where souls go? When our flesh returns to the dust from which it sprang.

So You Think Eden Is Not Paradise?

 

[pandaflower]

Of course I know that Egypt is a country has slave .

God was hardening Pharaoh's heart, but at first Pharaoh agreed to release the Israelites, but then he changed his mind.

That's not in scripture.

I don't fully understand God's purpose in doing this. Maybe it just shows that man has free will, but free will is limited before God.

I told you why God did it. It's in scripture.

 

[pandaflower]

So You Think Eden Is Not Paradise?

Of course it wasn't.

Where is Eden identified by God as paradise?

 

[soberxp]

Of course it wasn't.

Where is Eden identified by God as paradise?

You can find it in the Bible of Solomon's poetry.

song of songs 4:11 Thy lips, O my spouse, drop as the honeycomb: honey and milk are under thy tongue; and the smell of thy garments is like the smell of Lebanon. 4:16 Awake, O north wind; and come, thou south; blow upon my garden, that the spices thereof may flow out. Let my beloved come into his garden, and eat his pleasant fruits.

 

[pandaflower]

You can find it in the Bible of Solomon's poetry.

song of songs 4:11 Thy lips, O my spouse, drop as the honeycomb: honey and milk are under thy tongue; and the smell of thy garments is like the smell of Lebanon. 4:16 Awake, O north wind; and come, thou south; blow upon my garden, that the spices thereof may flow out. Let my beloved come into his garden, and eat his pleasant fruits.

Where? Solomon in that passage did not specifically refer to Eden as paradise.

 

[soberxp]

Where? Solomon in that passage did not specifically refer to Eden as paradise.

So you still thinking about the Eden is Eden, kingdom of heaven is kingdom of heaven.?!paradise is paradise?!!!!

And the earth is the earth......

Jerusalem is Jerusalem...........

Promise land is promise land.......

If interpret it according to your understanding, then the earth is the Garden of Eden, and God is talking about having many children in the Garden of Eden, Then how do you explain the expulsion of Adam and Eve from the Garden of Eden to Earth?

 

[Gottservant]

God is prepared to die, as much as He is prepared to kill (selah)