What? No! I didn't say that Jesus ceased to exist! What are you talking about?
That's what the bible seems to clearly teach!
Matthew 27:46 And about the ninth hour Jesus cried out with a loud voice, saying, “Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani?” that is, “My God, My God, why have You forsaken Me?”
Psalms 16:10 For You will not leave my soul in Sheol,
Nor will You allow Your Holy One to see corruption.
Matthew 12:40 For as Jonah was three days and three nights in the belly of the great fish, so will the Son of Man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.
Jonah 2:1 Then Jonah prayed to the Lord his God from the fish’s belly. 2 And he said:
“I cried out to the Lord because of my affliction,
And He answered me.
“Out of the belly of Sheol I cried,
And You heard my voice.
3 For You cast me into the deep,
Into the heart of the seas,
And the floods surrounded me;
All Your billows and Your waves passed over me.
4 Then I said, ‘I have been cast out of Your sight;
Yet I will look again toward Your holy temple.’
5 The waters surrounded me, even to my soul;
The deep closed around me;
Weeds were wrapped around my head.
6 I went down to the moorings of the mountains;
The earth with its bars closed behind me forever;
Yet You have brought up my life from the pit,
O Lord, my God.
See above.
Saying it doesn't make it so. Christianity is not about preventing physical death. From what I've seen so far, which isn't a lot, you seem to be reading your doctrine into the text.
You want to talk about a doctrine that next to no one believes? This is it!
I've been debating doctrine over the internet and in person for three decades and I've never heard of anyone who denied the existence of spiritual death or postulated the idea that what Jesus accomplished was biological in nature.
There are those who do not understand that Jesus was separated from the Father, if you disagree with that, then that's not surprising but I do have biblical reasons to believe it and it is by no means anything that would fall outside of what one might call the "pail of orthodoxy" (as much as I hate that term). This idea of yours, however, is frankly odd and so rare and extraordinary that it seems, of the two of us, it is you who have the burden of proof. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.
Are you being serious?
Matthew 10:28 Do not fear those who kill the body but are unable to kill the soul; but rather fear Him who is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.
John 8:51 Truly, truly, I say to you, if anyone keeps My word he will never see death.”
Romans 7:9 I was alive once without the law, but when the commandment came, sin revived and I died.
Ephesians 2:1-2 And you were dead in your trespasses and sins, in which you formerly walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, of the spirit that is now working in the sons of disobedience.
Colossians 2:11 In Him you were also circumcised with the circumcision made without hands, by putting off the body of the sins of the flesh, by the circumcision of Christ, 12 buried with Him in baptism, in which you also were raised with Him through faith in the working of God, who raised Him from the dead. 13 And you, being dead in your trespasses and the uncircumcision of your flesh, He has made alive together with Him, having forgiven you all trespasses, 14 having wiped out the handwriting of requirements that was against us, which was contrary to us. And He has taken it out of the way, having nailed it to the cross.
2 Corinthians 5:8 We are confident, yes, well pleased rather to be absent from the body and to be present with the Lord.
Revelation 2:11 He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches. He who overcomes will not be hurt by the second death.’
Revelation 20:6 Blessed and holy is the one who has a part in the first resurrection; over these the second death has no power, but they will be priests of God and of Christ and will reign with Him for a thousand years.
Revelation 21:8 But for the cowardly and unbelieving and abominable and murderers and immoral persons and sorcerers and idolaters and all liars, their part will be in the lake that burns with fire and brimstone, which is the second death.”
I literally feel like I could almost quote the entire New Testament!
Yes!
"Break" - "Separation"
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You're mixing dispensations here but that's definitely a topic for another thread.
He satisfied justice - period. He is therefore free to offer mercy to those whom He chooses and remain righteous. He chooses to be merciful to those who respond to Him in faith and those who reject Him, He grants their wish to remain apart from Him.
Again, mixing dispensations here and again sufficiently off the topic that it should be reserved for another thread.
You believe that unbelievers are going to be resurrected?
Out of curiosity, what sort of church do you attend? I need to read up on your doctrine.
Well, that's what we're here for, right? To be exposed to new ideas and see if those ideas can be supported and whether the view we hold can hold their own against all comers.
As for me...
There is no such thing as an irrational truth and all scripture
is given by inspiration of God, and
is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness, therefore, correct doctrine WILL be BOTH scripturally AND rationally sound. Also, the bedrock of all Christian doctrine is that God is righteous (i.e. just - same thing). All correct doctrine proceeds from that single premise.