When we are saved and being saved throughout this life for the next immortal next life, are we then in the Kingdom as a believer today, or only in some future time?
Or only a few are in the Kingdom today, those with the secret knowledge of living in some special unexplained, mysterious beyond walk in Christ in a glorified state?
Are we to continue to seek the Kingdom of God first, again and again, continually (again and again since conversion) as a believer since Christ's ascension, or are we in the Kingdom today and are still getting used to this Kingdom living as we mature and are ever-reminded we are already in the Kingdom, in the spirit of Christ given by God? All our real needs are currently being met!
Is the Kingdom sought for, found, binary or not? Sought and found, or sought and never really found by design until the next life? And we are to keep seeking it?
Has anyone answer(s) to this topic of discussion and debate and presented not in a mode of infighting with inpatient impulses ready to strike out at others without real just cause.
Ref: Matthew Chapter 6 for starters, the concern by Christ, by his words for his audiences to seek FIRST the Kingdom of God. Does he mean for only the seekers, his audience at that time, and/or for new believers of yesterday or today and tomorrow in some type of minimum, more carnal lower walk, or the already mature believer of the Kingdom, after the Day of Pentecost?
(Mat 6:7) And in praying do not use vain repetitions, as the Gentiles do, for they think that they shall be heard for their much speaking.
(Mat 6:8) Therefore, do not be like them! Even before you ask Him, your Father knows what things you need.
(Mat 6:9) In this manner you should pray: Our Father who is in heaven, let Your Name be glorified.
(Mat 6:10) Your kingdom come. Your will be done on earth, as it is in heaven.
(Mat 6:11) Give us this day our daily bread.
(Mat 6:12) And forgive us our debts, as we also have forgiven our debtors.
(Mat 6:13) And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil.
(Mat 6:14) For if you forgive men their trespasses, your heavenly Father will also forgive you.
(Mat 6:15) But if you do not forgive men their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses.
(Mat 6:30) Now if God so clothes the grass of the field, which is here today but tomorrow is thrown into the furnace, will He not more surely care for you, O you of little faith!
(Mat 6:31) Therefore, do not be anxious, saying, What shall we eat? or, What shall we drink? or, How shall we be clothed?
(Mat 6:32) For the Gentiles clamour for all these things; even though your heavenly Father knows you have need of them all.
(Mat 6:33) So seek first His kingdom, and His righteousness, and all these things shall be added to you.
(Mat 6:34) Therefore do not be anxious about tomorrow, for tomorrow will care for itself. Each day has enough trouble of its own.
Does this subject alter your view of salvation in a small or big way or not at all?
What say ye....?
Or only a few are in the Kingdom today, those with the secret knowledge of living in some special unexplained, mysterious beyond walk in Christ in a glorified state?
Are we to continue to seek the Kingdom of God first, again and again, continually (again and again since conversion) as a believer since Christ's ascension, or are we in the Kingdom today and are still getting used to this Kingdom living as we mature and are ever-reminded we are already in the Kingdom, in the spirit of Christ given by God? All our real needs are currently being met!
Is the Kingdom sought for, found, binary or not? Sought and found, or sought and never really found by design until the next life? And we are to keep seeking it?
Has anyone answer(s) to this topic of discussion and debate and presented not in a mode of infighting with inpatient impulses ready to strike out at others without real just cause.
Ref: Matthew Chapter 6 for starters, the concern by Christ, by his words for his audiences to seek FIRST the Kingdom of God. Does he mean for only the seekers, his audience at that time, and/or for new believers of yesterday or today and tomorrow in some type of minimum, more carnal lower walk, or the already mature believer of the Kingdom, after the Day of Pentecost?
(Mat 6:7) And in praying do not use vain repetitions, as the Gentiles do, for they think that they shall be heard for their much speaking.
(Mat 6:8) Therefore, do not be like them! Even before you ask Him, your Father knows what things you need.
(Mat 6:9) In this manner you should pray: Our Father who is in heaven, let Your Name be glorified.
(Mat 6:10) Your kingdom come. Your will be done on earth, as it is in heaven.
(Mat 6:11) Give us this day our daily bread.
(Mat 6:12) And forgive us our debts, as we also have forgiven our debtors.
(Mat 6:13) And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil.
(Mat 6:14) For if you forgive men their trespasses, your heavenly Father will also forgive you.
(Mat 6:15) But if you do not forgive men their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses.
(Mat 6:30) Now if God so clothes the grass of the field, which is here today but tomorrow is thrown into the furnace, will He not more surely care for you, O you of little faith!
(Mat 6:31) Therefore, do not be anxious, saying, What shall we eat? or, What shall we drink? or, How shall we be clothed?
(Mat 6:32) For the Gentiles clamour for all these things; even though your heavenly Father knows you have need of them all.
(Mat 6:33) So seek first His kingdom, and His righteousness, and all these things shall be added to you.
(Mat 6:34) Therefore do not be anxious about tomorrow, for tomorrow will care for itself. Each day has enough trouble of its own.
Does this subject alter your view of salvation in a small or big way or not at all?
What say ye....?
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