At the second coming the sky is blackened with millions of white horses because Jesus is on the lead horse and the armies of Heaven, millions and millions of saints, following on white horses. There is not a single Rapture verse where the setting includes white horses nor is there any room for white horses on any of the Rapture verses.
It's simply will not fit.
You completely ignore the setting.
the setting is thrown completely under the bus. Every Rapture verse that should be included in the debate you omit.
You will not go to what Jesus described at his coming in mat 24 to gather pre judgement.
2DISTINCT IRREFUTABLE comingS.
Two prejudgment Dynamics .lot and Noah.
None of your teachers ,nor you, will go to Matthew 25 which is a vivid Vivid unmistakable depiction of the rapture.
Literally impossible to miss.
And yet none of your teachers will go there unless challenged.
You need to ask yourself why all the 0missions ?????
everywhere you look In your pretribber teachers there are pretrib rapture omissions .
none of your teachers will give any acknowledgment of the setting of The Rapture.
The bride / groom dynamic is missing in your "exegesis"...TOTALLY MISSING!!!!!
The GREATEST EVENT is about to take place.
You are basically oblivious to it!!!!!!
Your teachers are oblivious to it!!!!
It literally seems impossible.
And yet the OMISSION is actually defended??????
You do not understand the point that Jesus and the angels are on the earth. I am pointing that out, and you avoid Matthew 13 and Matthew 25 stating that and change the subject. Revelation 19 is not the rapture nor the Second Coming.
The rapture is the 5th Seal. The Second Coming is the 6th Seal. There are no horses at the rapture and Second Coming, because the 144k have not even been sealed until after the Second Coming.
The 144k are on the earth with Jesus and the angels while Jesus is sitting in Judgment on a throne, in a temple, in Jerusalem. Jesus sits as King over Israel until the 7th Trumpet, and then Jesus is declared King over all the nations at that point.
The Cross was 3.5 years after the baptism of Jesus in the Jordan. Jesus would be declared King at the 7th Trumpet 3.5 years after the baptism of fire, per 2 Peter 3. John made that prophecy when he was about to baptize Jesus. But the baptism of fire was not the first century task Jesus had. The Cross was the part where Messiah was cut off. The 6th Seal is where Jesus as King baptizes the world in fire, and all the works of man are burned up.
We see this in Matthew 24. We see this in 2 Peter 3. We see this in Revelation 6. We see this in Zechariah 14.
We
do not see this in Revelation 19.
When they start riding white horses is not in Revelation 19. We are not told when. The church is not coming to the earth in Revelation 19. Only the 144k, the sheep, and the wheat of the final harvest. The only reason why they are returning after the 42 months, is because they left when Satan was made the 8th kingdom of earth, 3.5 days after Jesus was declared the 7th Kingdom at the 7th Trumpet.
Jesus and Satan do not co-reign on the same throne in Jerusalem. In the midst of the week of days of the 7th Trumpet, Satan is handed that throne, and Jesus and the 144k leave on white horses, because they return the same way they left 42 months later.
You are denying that returning on horses can infer they left on horses, the opposite way they will return. God can obviously create horses in an instant. John did not dwell on the infamous set back when Satan is handed the kingdom. John dwells on the point where the 7th Kingdom is restored, and Satan is defeated. The FP and beast of the 42 months that turned Jerusalem into mystery Babylon are cast alive into the LOF. Satan is bound in the pit for a thousand years. That is the point of Revelation 19. There is no rapture nor Second Coming mentioned at all in Revelation 19. That is the teaching of churchianity over the centuries you need to argue against, as wrong.
Revelation 19 is not a surprise event. It is a planned event down to the day and the hour. Revelation 19 is what is called Armageddon. Revelation 19 is 3.5 days after the 2 witnesses are killed. The 7 vials are poured out during those 3.5 days. Revelation 19 is the winepress of God's wrath, as the one mentioned in Revelation 14 did not happen. If the winepress happened in Revelation 14, then Satan was never given 42 months, and the winepress was at the end of the days of the 7th Trumpet, and the 144k did not leave on white horses. The winepress is not a harvest to eternal life. The winepress is the last of humanity physically dying.
There is only one winepress. You cannot kill everyone twice. Either the winepress happens after 7 days (the days of the 7th Trumpet), or it happens 42 months and 3.5 days after Jesus and the 144k leave on white horses, so they return on white horses. Daniel 9:27 is the event where Jesus leaves on Wednesday in the middle of the week. The kingdom is removed and Satan's AoD of mystery Babylon is set up.
The only reason these 42 months happen is so those on earth can choose between taking the mark or chopping their head off. That is the only reason. Those 42 months are not for Satan, nor for those who take the mark. Those 42 months are for grace and mercy shown to those who chop their heads off. And the reason Jesus gives to flee, when Satan sets up the AoD, is so that those fleeing can make a rational decision, instead of a rash last minute decision to just take the mark and reject God.
Once again, during those 42 months salvation is a free choice, by faith. Jesus is not present on earth. Jesus does not make that decision for them. The only witness will be the 2 witnesses, up until the end, and then they will be killed and left for dead for 3.5 days while the 7 vials are poured out on those who took the mark, and did not chop their heads off. Satan's Babylonian empire is not the Sunday school picnic all those who romanticize via symbolism, where the church fights against the beast for 42 months. It is abomination and desolation like never experienced, not even prior to the Flood of Noah's day. Those beheaded are not the church, nor ever will be in this current creation as part of the church. They are the gleanings just barely making it into the Day of the Lord, "saved as a brand, from the fire". They have not been judged by Jesus like the sheep and wheat. They are judged after Armageddon, when they stand before the church sitting on thrones of judgment, and they are given a first resurrection in order to physically live on the earth.