Strive To Be Holy

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"Strive To Be Holy"

By Zach Wood

1 Peter 1:14-16

As obedient children, do not comform to the evil desires you had when you lived in ignorance. But just as he who called you is holy, so be holy in all you do; for it is written: "Be holy, because I am holy."

I have been stuck on the this passage of Scripture for a week or two now. Not because I do not understand it, but because I have been drawn into what Peter the Apostle is saying about following Jesus Christ and being holy. Peter is strongly encouraging us to remember that we have been made alive with Christ and that our life is now in Him, not the past we used to have. We all have a past and it is not now to go back to the way we used to live and model that life anymore. It is done. It is gone. We are a new creature in Jesus Christ. We are called to be holy and to live in away that brings glory to Him.

Now, living holy is just not easy. No matter how hard we try, we simply fail. We are human and we fall short. If we are to be obedient children of God, we must make the decision to live a holy life. It requires much action on our part. Yes, God gives us strength and the ability, but we must first make the decision to step forward and make the effort to move forward in walking with God to be holy. He calls us to be obedient. He does not want to see us going back and forth on our decision. However, that is what being human is about. We make bad choices and we end up going back to old ways and old habits that we do not mean to revisit.

I look back on my own life and I see so many of the bad choices I made. Some of those choices I still continue to drift back and do again and again. Some I have learned to not redo and revisit. Little by little, I can feel myself learning and trying to be holy and keep my focus on God so I will not keep going back to my old ways. I must completely set my sight on God and focus completely upon Him so that I can be strong and continue my walk with Him. We must all continue this walk and ask Him for strength.

I would encourage you to read through this passage where Peter talks about being holy. Take the time to read, re-read and let the Word soak into your heart and mind.

I want to be holy in all I do. I pray every day that God would give me the strength to be holy and be an example for Jesus Christ. I find myself failing each day, but I get back up on my feet and ask for forgiveness and strength to try again. I am so glad God gives us more chances in life to do things right.

Remember, being holy and living a holy life is a choice we must all make each day. It requires great effort and sacrifice. We must all make choices to do away with whatever holds us back from walking more Christ and becoming stronger in our faith. It is a daily battle. It is a battle we cannot take on ourselves. We have to rely on God's strength. Alone, we will fail. Together with Him, we can and will succeed if we strive to live a holy life and focus on Him.

 

[Thankful 1]

"Strive To Be Holy"

By Zach Wood

1 Peter 1:14-16

As obedient children, do not comform to the evil desires you had when you lived in ignorance. But just as he who called you is holy, so be holy in all you do; for it is written: "Be holy, because I am holy."

I have been stuck on the this passage of Scripture for a week or two now. Not because I do not understand it, but because I have been drawn into what Peter the Apostle is saying about following Jesus Christ and being holy. Peter is strongly encouraging us to remember that we have been made alive with Christ and that our life is now in Him, not the past we used to have. We all have a past and it is not now to go back to the way we used to live and model that life anymore. It is done. It is gone. We are a new creature in Jesus Christ. We are called to be holy and to live in away that brings glory to Him.

Now, living holy is just not easy. No matter how hard we try, we simply fail. We are human and we fall short. If we are to be obedient children of God, we must make the decision to live a holy life. It requires much action on our part. Yes, God gives us strength and the ability, but we must first make the decision to step forward and make the effort to move forward in walking with God to be holy. He calls us to be obedient. He does not want to see us going back and forth on our decision. However, that is what being human is about. We make bad choices and we end up going back to old ways and old habits that we do not mean to revisit.

I look back on my own life and I see so many of the bad choices I made. Some of those choices I still continue to drift back and do again and again. Some I have learned to not redo and revisit. Little by little, I can feel myself learning and trying to be holy and keep my focus on God so I will not keep going back to my old ways. I must completely set my sight on God and focus completely upon Him so that I can be strong and continue my walk with Him. We must all continue this walk and ask Him for strength.

I would encourage you to read through this passage where Peter talks about being holy. Take the time to read, re-read and let the Word soak into your heart and mind.

I want to be holy in all I do. I pray every day that God would give me the strength to be holy and be an example for Jesus Christ. I find myself failing each day, but I get back up on my feet and ask for forgiveness and strength to try again. I am so glad God gives us more chances in life to do things right.

Remember, being holy and living a holy life is a choice we must all make each day. It requires great effort and sacrifice. We must all make choices to do away with whatever holds us back from walking more Christ and becoming stronger in our faith. It is a daily battle. It is a battle we cannot take on ourselves. We have to rely on God's strength. Alone, we will fail. Together with Him, we can and will succeed if we strive to live a holy life and focus on Him.

Becoming holy is aprocess that begins with one accepting Jesus as one’s Lord and God. Being baptized with water, in the name ofJesus, and then being baptized with the Holy Spirit is next.



(Acts 2:38-39) “You must repent, Peter answeredand every one of you must be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for theforgiveness of your sins, and you will receive the gift of the HolySpirit. The promise that was made isfor you and your children, and for all those who are far away, for all thosewhom the Lord our God is calling to himself.”



(1 John2:27) “But you have not lost the anointing that he gave you, and you do notneed anyone to teach you, the anointing he gave teaches you everything; you areanointed with truth, not a lie, and as it has taught you, so you must stay inhim.”<br style="mso-special-character:line-break"><br style="mso-special-character:line-break">

A person needs then togive one’s life to Jesus, and allow the Holy Spirit to teach him or her aboutGod, and to live the Word of God. When a person learns to live the Word of God,then God will come and make his home in one.



(John14:23-24) “Jesus replied, "If anyone loves me, he will obey my teaching.My Father will love him, and we will come to him and make our home with him. Hewho does not love me will not obey my teaching. These words you hear are not myown; they belong to the Father who sent me.”



A spiritual person will not sin. A Christian is a temple of Godwhere sin does not exist.


(1 John 5:18) “ We know that anyone born of Goddoes not continue to sin; the one who was born of God keeps him safe, and theevil one cannot harm him”

 

[aspen]

Becoming holy is aprocess that begins with one accepting Jesus as one’s Lord and God. Being baptized with water, in the name ofJesus, and then being baptized with the Holy Spirit is next.



(Acts 2:38-39) “You must repent, Peter answeredand every one of you must be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for theforgiveness of your sins, and you will receive the gift of the HolySpirit. The promise that was made isfor you and your children, and for all those who are far away, for all thosewhom the Lord our God is calling to himself.”



(1 John2:27) “But you have not lost the anointing that he gave you, and you do notneed anyone to teach you, the anointing he gave teaches you everything; you areanointed with truth, not a lie, and as it has taught you, so you must stay inhim.”<br style="mso-special-character:line-break"><br style="mso-special-character:line-break">

A person needs then togive one’s life to Jesus, and allow the Holy Spirit to teach him or her aboutGod, and to live the Word of God. When a person learns to live the Word of God,then God will come and make his home in one.



(John14:23-24) “Jesus replied, "If anyone loves me, he will obey my teaching.My Father will love him, and we will come to him and make our home with him. Hewho does not love me will not obey my teaching. These words you hear are not myown; they belong to the Father who sent me.”



A spiritual person will not sin. A Christian is a temple of Godwhere sin does not exist. (1 John 5:18) “ We know that anyone born of Goddoes not continue to sin; the one who was born of God keeps him safe, and theevil one cannot harm him”

Preaching against a Trinitarian baptism and never sinning after baptism is heresy.

 

[Thankful 1]

Preaching against a Trinitarian baptism and never sinning after baptism is heresy.

Things sure can get twisted. I quoted scripture backing upwhat I shared, and you call it heresy.



You haven’t been aCatholic very long, and have much to learn. I am not a teacher, so all I can do for you is to give a word. My hope is that you will take what I share to Jesus, and let him teach you.



By the way I will sendyou a letter from a Catholic Saint, one that had his tongue cut out and hisright arm cut off to stop him from saying what I am sharing.



The following is a letter by Saint. Maximus the Confessorand it explains in a very unique way what I have been saying, that people whoknow God do not sin.





The manner of birth from God within us is two-fold: the onebestows the grace of adoption, which is entirely present in potency in thosewho are born of God; the other introduces, wholly by active exertion, thatgrace which deliberately reorients the entire free choice of the one being bornof God toward the God who gives birth. The first bears the grace, present inpotency through faith alone; but the second,beyond, also engenders in the knower the sublimely divine likeness of the Oneknown, that likeness being effected precisely through knowledge. Therefore thefirst manner of birth is observed in some because their will, not yet fullydetached from its propensity to the flesh, has yet to be wholly endowed withthe Spirit by participation in the divine mysteries that are made known throughactive endeavor. The inclination to sin does not disappear as long asthey will it. For the Spirit does notgive birth to an unwilling will, but converts the willing will towarddeification. (So a person doesn’t stop sinning just because they will notto sin.) Whoever has participated inthis deification through cognizance experience is incapable of reverting fromright discernment in truth, once he has achieved this in action, to somethingelse besides, which only pretends to be that same discernment. (Once a person comes to know God, through the Holy Spirit,they are incapable of reverting to their sinful ways.) It is like the eye, which, once it has looked upon thesun, cannot mistake it for the moon or any of the other stars in theheavens. With those undergoing the(second mode of) birth, the Holy Spirit takes the whole of their free choiceand translates it completely from earth to heaven, and, through the trueknowledge acquired by exertion, transfigures the mind with the blessed lightrays of our God and Father, such that the mind is deemed another “God,” insofaras in its habitude if experiences, by grace, that which God himself does notexperience but “is” in his very essence. With those undergoing this second mode of baptism, their free choiceclearly becomes sinless in virtue and knowledge, as they are unable to negatewhat they have actively discerned through experience. So even if we have the Spirit of adoption, who is himself theSeed for enduring those begotten (through baptism) with the likeness of theSower, but do not present him with a will cleansed of any inclination ordisposition to something else, we therefore, even after being born of water andSpirit (Jn 3:5), willingly sin. Butwere we to prepare our will with knowledge to receive the operation of theseagents-water and Spirit, I mean-then the mystical water would, through ourpractical life, cleanse our conscience, and the life-giving Spirit would bringabout unchanging perfection of the good in us through knowledge acquired inexperience. Precisely for that reasonhe leaves, to each of us who are still able to sin, the sheer desire tosurrender our whole selves willing to the Spirit.



St. Maximus theConfessor

Preaching against a Trinitarian baptism and never sinning after baptism is heresy.

Things sure can gettwisted. I quoted scripture backing upwhat I shared, and you call it heresy.



You haven’t been aCatholic very long, and have much to learn. I am not a teacher, so all I can do for you is to give a word. My hope is that you will take what I shareto Jesus, and let him teach you.



By the way I will sendyou a letter from a Catholic Saint, one that had his tongue cut out and hisright arm cut off to stop him from saying what I am sharing.



The following is a letter by Saint. Maximus the Confessorand it explains in a very unique way what I have been saying, that people whoknow God do not sin.





The manner of birth from God within us is two-fold: the onebestows the grace of adoption, which is entirely present in potency in thosewho are born of God; the other introduces, wholly by active exertion, thatgrace which deliberately reorients the entire free choice of the one being bornof God toward the God who gives birth. The first bears the grace, present inpotency through faith alone; but the second,beyond, also engenders in the knower the sublimely divine likeness of the Oneknown, that likeness being effected precisely through knowledge. Therefore thefirst manner of birth is observed in some because their will, not yet fullydetached from its propensity to the flesh, has yet to be wholly endowed withthe Spirit by participation in the divine mysteries that are made known throughactive endeavor. The inclination to sin does not disappear as long asthey will it. For the Spirit does notgive birth to an unwilling will, but converts the willing will towarddeification. (So a person doesn’t stop sinning just because they will notto sin.) Whoever has participated inthis deification through cognizance experience is incapable of reverting fromright discernment in truth, once he has achieved this in action, to somethingelse besides, which only pretends to be that same discernment. (Once a person comes to know God, through the Holy Spirit,they are incapable of reverting to their sinful ways.) It is like the eye, which, once it has looked upon thesun, cannot mistake it for the moon or any of the other stars in theheavens. With those undergoing the(second mode of) birth, the Holy Spirit takes the whole of their free choiceand translates it completely from earth to heaven, and, through the trueknowledge acquired by exertion, transfigures the mind with the blessed lightrays of our God and Father, such that the mind is deemed another “God,” insofaras in its habitude if experiences, by grace, that which God himself does notexperience but “is” in his very essence. With those undergoing this second mode of baptism, their free choiceclearly becomes sinless in virtue and knowledge, as they are unable to negatewhat they have actively discerned through experience. So even if we have the Spirit of adoption, who is himself theSeed for enduring those begotten (through baptism) with the likeness of theSower, but do not present him with a will cleansed of any inclination ordisposition to something else, we therefore, even after being born of water andSpirit (Jn 3:5), willingly sin. Butwere we to prepare our will with knowledge to receive the operation of theseagents-water and Spirit, I mean-then the mystical water would, through ourpractical life, cleanse our conscience, and the life-giving Spirit would bringabout unchanging perfection of the good in us through knowledge acquired inexperience. Precisely for that reasonhe leaves, to each of us who are still able to sin, the sheer desire tosurrender our whole selves willing to the Spirit.



St. Maximus theConfessor

 

[aspen]

Things sure can get twisted. I quoted scripture backing upwhat I shared, and you call it heresy.



You haven’t been aCatholic very long, and have much to learn. I am not a teacher, so all I can do for you is to give a word. My hope is that you will take what I share to Jesus, and let him teach you.



By the way I will sendyou a letter from a Catholic Saint, one that had his tongue cut out and hisright arm cut off to stop him from saying what I am sharing.



The following is a letter by Saint. Maximus the Confessorand it explains in a very unique way what I have been saying, that people whoknow God do not sin.





The manner of birth from God within us is two-fold: the onebestows the grace of adoption, which is entirely present in potency in thosewho are born of God; the other introduces, wholly by active exertion, thatgrace which deliberately reorients the entire free choice of the one being bornof God toward the God who gives birth. The first bears the grace, present inpotency through faith alone; but the second,beyond, also engenders in the knower the sublimely divine likeness of the Oneknown, that likeness being effected precisely through knowledge. Therefore thefirst manner of birth is observed in some because their will, not yet fullydetached from its propensity to the flesh, has yet to be wholly endowed withthe Spirit by participation in the divine mysteries that are made known throughactive endeavor. The inclination to sin does not disappear as long asthey will it. For the Spirit does notgive birth to an unwilling will, but converts the willing will towarddeification. (So a person doesn’t stop sinning just because they will notto sin.) Whoever has participated inthis deification through cognizance experience is incapable of reverting fromright discernment in truth, once he has achieved this in action, to somethingelse besides, which only pretends to be that same discernment. (Once a person comes to know God, through the Holy Spirit,they are incapable of reverting to their sinful ways.) It is like the eye, which, once it has looked upon thesun, cannot mistake it for the moon or any of the other stars in theheavens. With those undergoing the(second mode of) birth, the Holy Spirit takes the whole of their free choiceand translates it completely from earth to heaven, and, through the trueknowledge acquired by exertion, transfigures the mind with the blessed lightrays of our God and Father, such that the mind is deemed another “God,” insofaras in its habitude if experiences, by grace, that which God himself does notexperience but “is” in his very essence. With those undergoing this second mode of baptism, their free choiceclearly becomes sinless in virtue and knowledge, as they are unable to negatewhat they have actively discerned through experience. So even if we have the Spirit of adoption, who is himself theSeed for enduring those begotten (through baptism) with the likeness of theSower, but do not present him with a will cleansed of any inclination ordisposition to something else, we therefore, even after being born of water andSpirit (Jn 3:5), willingly sin. Butwere we to prepare our will with knowledge to receive the operation of theseagents-water and Spirit, I mean-then the mystical water would, through ourpractical life, cleanse our conscience, and the life-giving Spirit would bringabout unchanging perfection of the good in us through knowledge acquired inexperience. Precisely for that reasonhe leaves, to each of us who are still able to sin, the sheer desire tosurrender our whole selves willing to the Spirit.



St. Maximus theConfessor



Things sure can gettwisted. I quoted scripture backing upwhat I shared, and you call it heresy.



You haven’t been aCatholic very long, and have much to learn. I am not a teacher, so all I can do for you is to give a word. My hope is that you will take what I shareto Jesus, and let him teach you.



By the way I will sendyou a letter from a Catholic Saint, one that had his tongue cut out and hisright arm cut off to stop him from saying what I am sharing.



The following is a letter by Saint. Maximus the Confessorand it explains in a very unique way what I have been saying, that people whoknow God do not sin.





The manner of birth from God within us is two-fold: the onebestows the grace of adoption, which is entirely present in potency in thosewho are born of God; the other introduces, wholly by active exertion, thatgrace which deliberately reorients the entire free choice of the one being bornof God toward the God who gives birth. The first bears the grace, present inpotency through faith alone; but the second,beyond, also engenders in the knower the sublimely divine likeness of the Oneknown, that likeness being effected precisely through knowledge. Therefore thefirst manner of birth is observed in some because their will, not yet fullydetached from its propensity to the flesh, has yet to be wholly endowed withthe Spirit by participation in the divine mysteries that are made known throughactive endeavor. The inclination to sin does not disappear as long asthey will it. For the Spirit does notgive birth to an unwilling will, but converts the willing will towarddeification. (So a person doesn’t stop sinning just because they will notto sin.) Whoever has participated inthis deification through cognizance experience is incapable of reverting fromright discernment in truth, once he has achieved this in action, to somethingelse besides, which only pretends to be that same discernment. (Once a person comes to know God, through the Holy Spirit,they are incapable of reverting to their sinful ways.) It is like the eye, which, once it has looked upon thesun, cannot mistake it for the moon or any of the other stars in theheavens. With those undergoing the(second mode of) birth, the Holy Spirit takes the whole of their free choiceand translates it completely from earth to heaven, and, through the trueknowledge acquired by exertion, transfigures the mind with the blessed lightrays of our God and Father, such that the mind is deemed another “God,” insofaras in its habitude if experiences, by grace, that which God himself does notexperience but “is” in his very essence. With those undergoing this second mode of baptism, their free choiceclearly becomes sinless in virtue and knowledge, as they are unable to negatewhat they have actively discerned through experience. So even if we have the Spirit of adoption, who is himself theSeed for enduring those begotten (through baptism) with the likeness of theSower, but do not present him with a will cleansed of any inclination ordisposition to something else, we therefore, even after being born of water andSpirit (Jn 3:5), willingly sin. Butwere we to prepare our will with knowledge to receive the operation of theseagents-water and Spirit, I mean-then the mystical water would, through ourpractical life, cleanse our conscience, and the life-giving Spirit would bringabout unchanging perfection of the good in us through knowledge acquired inexperience. Precisely for that reasonhe leaves, to each of us who are still able to sin, the sheer desire tosurrender our whole selves willing to the Spirit.



St. Maximus theConfessor

I have been a Christian for over 30 years. Jesus told His disciples to go out and baptize in the name of the Father, Son and Holy Spirit Matt 28:19. Maximus the Confessor was an universalist and a Neo-Platonist. He was also a heretic.

 

[Thankful 1]

I have been a Christian for over 30 years. Jesus told His disciples to go out and baptize in the name of the Father, Son and Holy Spirit Matt 28:19. Maximus the Confessor was an universalist and a Neo-Platonist. He was also a heretic.

Yes I called myself aChristian for over forty years, and then I came to know God, and truly became aChristian, and that was thirty-six years ago.



You see a Christian isdead to sin. So if one still sins he orshe at best are baby Christians.



So St.Maximus the Confessor was a heretic? Thatis strange that the Catholic Church made him a Saint, so in whose estimationwas he a heretic?



Aspen, who has been teaching you for the thirty that years you have called yourself a Christian?



John tells us that a person who sins is ofSatan. Were the people who taught you, people who still sinned? If so then slaves ofthe devil have been your teacher.



(1 John 3:8) “He who does what is sinfulis of the devil, because the devil has been sinning from the beginning. Thereason the Son of God appeared was to destroy the devil's work.”

 

[TexUs]

Yet another example of two Catholics with opposing doctrines. I thought your Pope was supposed to guard the truth and keep the doctrines in check and uniform?
LOL

(Or can we scratch that off his job description? Which then becomes, again, what's the point of the Pope)?

Aspen, Thankful1 has another thread dedicated to the "Christians don't sin" heresy, I recommend you check it out.

 

[Thankful 1]

Yet another example of two Catholics with opposing doctrines. I thought your Pope was supposed to guard the truth and keep the doctrines in check and uniform?
LOL

(Or can we scratch that off his job description? Which then becomes, again, what's the point of the Pope)?

Aspen, Thankful1 has another thread dedicated to the "Christians don't sin" heresy, I recommend you check it out.

I checked it out withJesus, and he told me that what I am sharing is the truth. Who did you check it out with? Does he or she sin? If so then you have checked it out with thedevil.





(1 John 3:8) “He who does what is sinfulis of the devil, because the devil has been sinning from the beginning. Thereason the Son of God appeared was to destroy the devil's work.”

 

[TexUs]

I checked it out withJesus, and he told me that what I am sharing is the truth. Who did you check it out with? Does he or she sin? If so then you have checked it out with thedevil.





(1 John 3:8) “He who does what is sinfulis of the devil, because the devil has been sinning from the beginning. Thereason the Son of God appeared was to destroy the devil's work.”

I've explained the entirety of 1 John to you and you refuse to deal with any of it.
I must ask YOU, when you can't deal with THE BIBLE, because it gives you problems with YOUR VIEW, my question is... Who exactly did you "check it out" with? Don't you know Satan masquerades as an angel of light? Because this I can be sure of: God never changes. What he said 2,000 years ago will not change today. What he says in the Bible won't change today. When something is contrary to the Bible, it is not of God.

 

[Thankful 1]

I've explained the entirety of 1 John to you and you refuse to deal with any of it.
I must ask YOU, when you can't deal with THE BIBLE, because it gives you problems with YOUR VIEW, my question is... Who exactly did you "check it out" with? Don't you know Satan masquerades as an angel of light? Because this I can be sure of: God never changes. What he said 2,000 years ago will not change today. What he says in the Bible won't change today. When something is contrary to the Bible, it is not of God.

Because you have understood the Bible the way it has been taught to you, does not mean that it is right. Again who taught you what the bible is saying? Does the person who taught you sin? If so then it is of Satan that your understanding has come from.



You see a sinner has to make the bible read so as to justify his or her sinning. No one can believe a sinner.



(1 John 3:8) “He who does what is sinful is of the devil, because the devil has been sinning from the beginning. The reason the Son of God appeared was to destroy the devil's work.”

 

[TexUs]

Again who taught you what the bible is saying?

Let the Bible interpret the Bible.

 

[Thankful 1]

Let the Bible interpret the Bible.

(John 10:1-5)"I tell you thetruth, the man who does not enter the sheep pen by the gate, but climbs in bysome other way, is a thief and a robber. The man who enters by the gate is theshepherd of his sheep. The watchman opens the gate for him, and the sheeplisten to his voice. He calls his own sheep by nameand leads them out. When he has brought out all his own, he goes on ahead ofthem, and his sheep follow him because they know his voice. But they will neverfollow a stranger; in fact, they will run away from him because theydo not recognize a stranger's voice."



(1 John 2:27) “But you have not lost the anointing thathe gave you, and you do not need anyone to teach you, the anointing he gaveteaches you everything; you are anointed with truth, not a lie, and as it hastaught you, so you must stay in him.”



(John 16:13) “But when the Spirit of truth comes he willlead you to the complete truth, since he will not be speaking as from himselfbut will say only what he has learnt; and he will tell you of the things tocome.”



(Hebrews10:16) “This is the covenant I will establish with them after those days, saysthe Lord: 'I will put my laws in their hearts, and I will write them upon theirminds,”



(1 John 3:8) “He who does what is sinfulis of the devil, because the devil has been sinning from the beginning. Thereason the Son of God appeared was to destroy the devil's work.”

 

[TexUs]

Again, if anything contradicts the Bible, it is not of God.

My point was still:
Yet another example of two Catholics with opposing doctrines. I thought your Pope was supposed to guard the truth and keep the doctrines in check and uniform?
LOL

(Or can we scratch that off his job description? Which then becomes, again, what's the point of the Pope)?

 

[Thankful 1]

Again, if anything contradicts the Bible, it is not of God.

My point was still:
[font="tahoma][size="2"]Yet another example of two Catholics with opposing doctrines. I thought your Pope was supposed to guard the truth and keep the doctrines in check and uniform?
LOL

(Or can we scratch that off his job description? Which then becomes, again, what's the point of the Pope)?[/size][/font]

What you mean to say is if something contradicts scripture the way you understand the Word. You are of course the one true interpreter. You see why there is no way to ever come to an understanding with you?



Now it is a little hard to twist what John said in: (1 John 3:8) “He who does what is sinful is of the devil, because the devil has been sinning from the beginning. The reason the Son of God appeared was to destroy the devil's work.”



That is what a person is if he or she deliberately commit a sin, a slave of Satan.



Where did you ever hear that I am a Catholic?

 

[TexUs]

Now it is a little hard to twist what John said in: (1 John 3:8) “He who does what is sinful is of the devil, because the devil has been sinning from the beginning. The reason the Son of God appeared was to destroy the devil's work.”

By itself, out of Biblical contest, it's very hard to twist what John said.
But if your face-value evaluation of the text contradicts Scripture ANYWHERE (it does), then that interpretation must be wrong. Simple as that.

 

[Thankful 1]

By itself, out of Biblical contest, it's very hard to twist what John said.
But if your face-value evaluation of the text contradicts Scripture ANYWHERE (it does), then that interpretation must be wrong. Simple as that.

It is sad that one needs to arrange scripture in such a way so he or she can make themselves look to be rightous, and holy sinners.



I am honestly sharing what Jesus personall taught me. Jesus has given me the grace to not sin for over thirty years. This is my witness. I know Jesus and he has been my teacher for over thirty years. Scripture tells us that Jesus will call out his people by name.



Now why any one would want to take a sinners’ testomony is sad. Scripture shows that Jesus called us to be perfect. We are to walk as Jesus walked. One can’t be walking as Jesus walked if one still sins.

 

[Foreigner]

"It is sad that one needs to arrange scripture in such a way so he or she can make themselves look to be rightous, and holy sinners. " - Thankful


-- I agree. But you are still welcome here, Thankful.

 

[Thankful 1]

What can a person who believe themselves to be holy, and continues to sin, say to some one that says a sinner is not holy?



If a person needs and wants an excuse to continue to sin, then scripture will continue to be read by them, in such a way as to make themselves look holy.



So ask yourselves; do you want an excuse to continue to sin, or do you want to know how not to ever sin again?

 

[Foreigner]

*yawn*

 

[aspen]

Thankful1 - you arrived about the same time as a member called The Word was banned for posting the exact same heresy you are posting - is he a relative of yours?