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Rewire Your Heart: 10 Days To Fight Sin • Devotional- Spoken Gospel, Thomas Nelson
https://bible.com/reading-plans/12779/day/2?segment=0

Scriptures:

"If you have died with Christ to the elementary principles of the world, why, as if you were living in the world, do you submit yourself to decrees, such as, “Do not handle, do not taste, do not touch!” (which all refer to things destined to perish with use)—in accordance with the commandments and teachings of men? These are matters which have, to be sure, the appearance of wisdom in self-made religion and self-abasement and severe treatment of the body, but are of no value against fleshly indulgence."
Colossians 2:20‭-‬23 NASB1995


"Therefore consider the members of your earthly body as dead to immorality, impurity, passion, evil desire, and greed, which amounts to idolatry."
Colossians 3:5 NASB1995

"Therefore if you have been raised up with Christ, keep seeking the things above, where Christ is, seated at the right hand of God. Set your mind on the things above, not on the things that are on earth."
Colossians 3:1‭-‬2 NASB1995

The Wrong Way To Fight Sin

When you want to stop doing a sin, what do you do?

Do you try to deprive yourself of something, keep away from tempting situations, or try to distract yourself with more innocuous activities?

You have probably already learned this through practice, but none of these techniques will ever work. You cannot deprive yourself, ignore your desires, or beat your will into submission. Why? Because your mind and will aren’t the center of your decision-making process. Your heart is. If you don’t love something you won’t do it. If you don’t hate something you won’t leave it alone.

Yet in so many of the self-help books and even sermons today, people are preaching this strategy. There is always some new “wisdom” for how to stop bad habits and start good ones. Many of them treat sin like a diet. Starve out the bad. Feed the good. But sin doesn't work like this.

In our passage for today, Paul is going up against similar religious tactics of his time. He is trying to help his audience fight the indulgences of sinful flesh (Col. 2:23) and what is earthly (3:5). But before he tells them how to do it, he tells them how not to do it.

People in Paul’s day were saying that the right way to weed out sin was deprivation. “Do not handle, do not taste, do not touch” (2:21). They formed a man-made religion around depriving themselves of basic goods - “asceticism” (2:23) - and inflicting themselves with wounds - “severity to the body” (2:23). The way to fight sin was to beat it out of yourself and punish yourself when you don’t.

This is an extreme version of what we do. For instance, if someone struggles with pornography, they might deprive themselves of the internet and technology. And when they fall into it, they inflict themselves with guilt and shame. The problem is deprivation cannot change the heart any more than starving yourself can get rid of hunger.

Maybe this sounds wrong to you. Maybe this is how you thought you were supposed to fight sin. It’s no wonder that Paul said, “These have indeed an appearance of wisdom” (2:23). However, it will never work. Such sin tactics “are of no value in stopping the indulgence of the flesh” (2:23).

So if that’s how not to fight sin, how should we fight sin?

Paul has our answer. “Seek the things that are above, where Christ is, seated at the right hand of God. Set your minds on things that are above” (3:1-2).

How do we fight sin? We set our minds on Christ. You can’t change your heart by saying no to your desires. But you can change your heart by setting your mind on Christ.

When you remind yourself that you “have been raised with Christ” (3:1), your heart is filled with great affections. These affections will rewire your heart to do what deprivation never could. Setting your mind on Christ and his Gospel will kill sin in your life.
 
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How do we fight sin? We set our minds on Christ. You can’t change your heart by saying no to your desires. But you can change your heart by setting your mind on Christ.

It's all very well saying that as an answer, but it doesn't go far enough. It doesn't tell us how to 'set our minds on Christ'. We might know that we need to set our minds on Christ but is there a specific way we can do that?

These traps are often well hidden so we don't them lying in wait for us and we must all have fallen into them at some stage in our lives. Before we were Christians we didn't even recognise the traps but now hopefully we will see them, either before we fall so that we can avoid it or even after so that we know to seek forgiveness and cleansing.
 

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It's all very well saying that as an answer, but it doesn't go far enough. It doesn't tell us how to 'set our minds on Christ'. We might know that we need to set our minds on Christ but is there a specific way we can do that?

These traps are often well hidden so we don't them lying in wait for us and we must all have fallen into them at some stage in our lives. Before we were Christians we didn't even recognise the traps but now hopefully we will see them, either before we fall so that we can avoid it or even after so that we know to seek forgiveness and cleansing.

The scriptures yesterday pointed to being open as one way to fight sin... I think today's scripture and thought is to not just avoid things that cause stumbling, but to fill the mind up with the things of God also while dying to the flesh. Ultimately mind renewal is the main thing that will change fleshly desires to Godly desires. It is kinda like a fast. When someone fasts food, they are usually in the scriptures too/deeper prayer and thinking about the things of God. If that isn't the case, it is just a diet.

As for dying to sin goes, I don't just want a diet, I want to be thinking on God and His Word. I think my desires have been transforming personally.
 

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I think it is also important to use the right scripture as weapons. Like Jesus in the desert, He used scripture when satan tested Him, but He didn't just use random scriptures. He knew the Word for the temptations thrown at Him.
 

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I think today's scripture and thought is to not just avoid things that cause stumbling, but to fill the mind up with the things of God also while dying to the flesh.

This is a helpful principle, IMO.

Now, that having been said (and I knew this day would be coming, I just didn't know it would get here quite so fast), I actually have strong disagreements with the interpretation of the passages cited by the author. It's not as if I take offensive with it, because we are all entitled to our opinion of what things mean, but Colossians is one of the Books I have studied in depth and I take an entirely different view on what is actually being said and what is being referred to.

Not quite sure how to proceed therefore, Mayflower. As members of the study group you are leading, I say it is your call; what should we do if we disagree with the premise and interpretations of the study itself? Should we share our thoughts still, or just kind sit this one out for the next study?

Whatever you decide is fine by me. I'd hate to come off like I was discrediting the writer, because if it becomes a pattern with me that might seem to discourage continuing to do these studies at all, and that's not it with me. I love discussing the word, I just have my own views on things after years (decades actually) of study, so I may come off as too contradictory and disrupt the flow of things, depending on how my interaction was viewed.
 
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My thoughts for the week are about the same now. We need to ultimately set our mind on Christ, which will not just change our desires from the world, but transform them to reflect God's desires.
I really need to catch up on this I'm lost. Lol! But I have time to do that right now so gimmi a little bit and I'll put my two cents in the thought jar
 
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I based my views on the study notes rather than the scriptures but I'm going back to read the Colossians passages again.
 

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I based my views on the study notes rather than the scriptures but I'm going back to read the Colossians passages again.

Yeh Hidden shed new light day 1. Reminded me to be aware of reading scripture in context... Not just taking the study person's notes in account. My pastor tells us that he can take one scripture or small passage and just chew on it for a week, because there is just so much in God's Word...
 
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Yeh Hidden shed new light day 1. Reminded me to be aware of reading scripture in context... Not just taking the study person's notes in account. My pastor tells us that he can take one scripture or small passage and just chew on it for a week, because there is just so much in God's Word...
That's what I've been doing, reading the passages in context. Am now mulling them over.
 
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I discovered the play audio button! What a difference!!

Okay - one thing I think he missed or I forgot he said was Psalm 1. Which might be one of the most important pieces and talks about the people were around - or today it would be mainly exposure.

A few months ago, I could not figure out why, I had four letter word problems coming out. I could not figure out what the problem was and then I realized I reading patriots.win way too much and it was clinging onto me. So I shut it out! And the words went away.

So what did God have me eliminate from my life the last few years?

Secular music, most secular television-especially horror movies. Friends after 14 years of friendship. Male acquaintances. Chatrooms. Alcohol. Marijuana. Normal clothes (for a while) that I used to seek negative attention. Social media (for a while) which put something weird and narcissistic in my ways, and things other things that were more distractions than anything. And then for a long time isolated from people. For a good reason. And the whole internet and television for a year!

And after all of that was gone, the only things that were suitable for entertainment were God, history, classical music, worship, board games, and whatever could be learned. Studying the scriptures continuously.

It isn't just focusing on God alone, it's making an effort to rid of the other stuff. And when you go back, you're no longer desensitized to it. The things you loved become the things you hate. If they dishonor God and are filled with wickedness, your heart has been changed to know the difference and you are able to discern "I don't want this in my life."

It isn't that it becomes just less desirable - it becomes appalling. And the motives and the desires of the heart will change as you go along.
 
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I discovered the play audio button! What a difference!!

Okay - one thing I think he missed or I forgot he said was Psalm 1. Which might be one of the most important pieces and talks about the people were around - or today it would be mainly exposure.

A few months ago, I could not figure out why, I had four letter word problems coming out. I could not figure out what the problem was and then I realized I reading patriots.win way too much and it was clinging onto me. So I shut it out! And the words went away.

So what did God have me eliminate from my life the last few years?

Secular music, most secular television-especially horror movies. Friends after 14 years of friendship. Male acquaintances. Chatrooms. Alcohol. Marijuana. Normal clothes (for a while) that I used to seek negative attention. Social media (for a while) which put something weird and narcissistic in my ways, and things other things that were more distractions than anything. And then for a long time isolated from people. For a good reason. And the whole internet and television for a year!

And after all of that was gone, the only things that were suitable for entertainment were God, history, classical music, worship, board games, and whatever could be learned. Studying the scriptures continuously.

It isn't just focusing on God alone, it's making an effort to rid of the other stuff. And when you go back, you're no longer desensitized to it. The things you loved become the things you hate. If they dishonor God and are filled with wickedness, your heart has been changed to know the difference and you are able to discern "I don't want this in my life."

It isn't that it becomes just less desirable - it becomes appalling. And the motives and the desires of the heart will change as you go along.
I've given up watching most of the drama on TV these days as there is a lot of dark areas to most of it. I listen to classical music or Christian radio and I read fiction but not dark stuff or with a sexual context. I also read Christian books. What about you @FluffyYellowDuck do you read Christian books. I especially used like testimonies.
 

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I've given up watching most of the drama on TV these days as there is a lot of dark areas to most of it. I listen to classical music or Christian radio and I read fiction but not dark stuff or with a sexual context. I also read Christian books. What about you @FluffyYellowDuck do you read Christian books. I especially used like testimonies.
Same here. I really like history documentaries now.

I don't read as much as I used to but I did read a lot of books from Andrew Murray, Luther, and Tozer! Some others. And if I feel discouraged, if it's not prayer or worship, sometimes I'll watch something like 700 Club testimonies and see how God has helped other people. That helps me a lot.
 
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Rewire Your Heart: 10 Days To Fight Sin • Devotional
https://bible.com/reading-plans/12779/day/2?segment=0

Scriptures:

"If you have died with Christ to the elementary principles of the world, why, as if you were living in the world, do you submit yourself to decrees, such as, “Do not handle, do not taste, do not touch!” (which all refer to things destined to perish with use)—in accordance with the commandments and teachings of men? These are matters which have, to be sure, the appearance of wisdom in self-made religion and self-abasement and severe treatment of the body, but are of no value against fleshly indulgence."
Colossians 2:20‭-‬23 NASB1995


"Therefore consider the members of your earthly body as dead to immorality, impurity, passion, evil desire, and greed, which amounts to idolatry."
Colossians 3:5 NASB1995

"Therefore if you have been raised up with Christ, keep seeking the things above, where Christ is, seated at the right hand of God. Set your mind on the things above, not on the things that are on earth."
Colossians 3:1‭-‬2 NASB1995

The Wrong Way To Fight Sin

When you want to stop doing a sin, what do you do?

Do you try to deprive yourself of something, keep away from tempting situations, or try to distract yourself with more innocuous activities?

You have probably already learned this through practice, but none of these techniques will ever work. You cannot deprive yourself, ignore your desires, or beat your will into submission. Why? Because your mind and will aren’t the center of your decision-making process. Your heart is. If you don’t love something you won’t do it. If you don’t hate something you won’t leave it alone.

Yet in so many of the self-help books and even sermons today, people are preaching this strategy. There is always some new “wisdom” for how to stop bad habits and start good ones. Many of them treat sin like a diet. Starve out the bad. Feed the good. But sin doesn't work like this.

In our passage for today, Paul is going up against similar religious tactics of his time. He is trying to help his audience fight the indulgences of sinful flesh (Col. 2:23) and what is earthly (3:5). But before he tells them how to do it, he tells them how not to do it.

People in Paul’s day were saying that the right way to weed out sin was deprivation. “Do not handle, do not taste, do not touch” (2:21). They formed a man-made religion around depriving themselves of basic goods - “asceticism” (2:23) - and inflicting themselves with wounds - “severity to the body” (2:23). The way to fight sin was to beat it out of yourself and punish yourself when you don’t.

This is an extreme version of what we do. For instance, if someone struggles with pornography, they might deprive themselves of the internet and technology. And when they fall into it, they inflict themselves with guilt and shame. The problem is deprivation cannot change the heart any more than starving yourself can get rid of hunger.

Maybe this sounds wrong to you. Maybe this is how you thought you were supposed to fight sin. It’s no wonder that Paul said, “These have indeed an appearance of wisdom” (2:23). However, it will never work. Such sin tactics “are of no value in stopping the indulgence of the flesh” (2:23).

So if that’s how not to fight sin, how should we fight sin?

Paul has our answer. “Seek the things that are above, where Christ is, seated at the right hand of God. Set your minds on things that are above” (3:1-2).

How do we fight sin? We set our minds on Christ. You can’t change your heart by saying no to your desires. But you can change your heart by setting your mind on Christ.

When you remind yourself that you “have been raised with Christ” (3:1), your heart is filled with great affections. These affections will rewire your heart to do what deprivation never could. Setting your mind on Christ and his Gospel will kill sin in your life.

Good stuff!!

Getting closer to God answers everything!

How do we fight sin? We set our minds on Christ. You can’t change your heart by saying no to your desires. But you can change your heart by setting your mind on Christ.

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I discovered the play audio button! What a difference!!

Okay - one thing I think he missed or I forgot he said was Psalm 1. Which might be one of the most important pieces and talks about the people were around - or today it would be mainly exposure.

A few months ago, I could not figure out why, I had four letter word problems coming out. I could not figure out what the problem was and then I realized I reading patriots.win way too much and it was clinging onto me. So I shut it out! And the words went away.

So what did God have me eliminate from my life the last few years?

Secular music, most secular television-especially horror movies. Friends after 14 years of friendship. Male acquaintances. Chatrooms. Alcohol. Marijuana. Normal clothes (for a while) that I used to seek negative attention. Social media (for a while) which put something weird and narcissistic in my ways, and things other things that were more distractions than anything. And then for a long time isolated from people. For a good reason. And the whole internet and television for a year!

And after all of that was gone, the only things that were suitable for entertainment were God, history, classical music, worship, board games, and whatever could be learned. Studying the scriptures continuously.

It isn't just focusing on God alone, it's making an effort to rid of the other stuff. And when you go back, you're no longer desensitized to it. The things you loved become the things you hate. If they dishonor God and are filled with wickedness, your heart has been changed to know the difference and you are able to discern "I don't want this in my life."

It isn't that it becomes just less desirable - it becomes appalling. And the motives and the desires of the heart will change as you go along.

Just to go off your thought on giving things up and things for suitable entertainment, I found it hard to give up forums... I think because I do like talking to friends and stuff on here and there are tons of encouraging things on here... It is also a great way to encourage others also and tell others the good news of the gospel. I've gotten distracted a lot by negative news though... and for years forums were for recovery support before I got help offline. I can't handle some topics without feeling heavily burdened... And some topics just feel like I hear a lot of voices instead of God's voice... So I think what helped is deciding to avoid those topics. And if I don't and start getting upset, to go to the encouraging verses and start posting praise. It just really lifts my spirit. But worry is sin. And anxiety is my greatest temptation, which is lack of faith. Always has been. But God has been transforming my mind. Pretty soon I hope faith and no fear will be my greatest strength.

What I have a hard time doing, is the heavy hearted topics I probably do need to think about on occasion, laying them down at God's feet instead of worrying about them. Like vaccines... If and when to get them. It took awhile to decide not too, but had to decide and put my family in God's hands. My husband prefers not, so that was a deciding factor also. But it isn't the only topic. Like my kids and their futures too... Just things like that.

I have temptations and other sins too, but they just pale in comparison to worry. I have just truly felt the breath of God in my life lately... Confidence and strength. My kids will need that from mom too. So yeh balance... And constantly feeding on the Word of God... I didn't realize how battle scriptures would be handy in fighting worry. Instead of being afraid and angry at situations, I need to be angry at the enemy. When I stand up to him, I notice my flesh tends to get in line too.
 
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This is a helpful principle, IMO.

Now, that having been said (and I knew this day would be coming, I just didn't know it would get here quite so fast), I actually have strong disagreements with the interpretation of the passages cited by the author. It's not as if I take offensive with it, because we are all entitled to our opinion of what things mean, but Colossians is one of the Books I have studied in depth and I take an entirely different view on what is actually being said and what is being referred to.

Not quite sure how to proceed therefore, Mayflower. As members of the study group you are leading, I say it is your call; what should we do if we disagree with the premise and interpretations of the study itself? Should we share our thoughts still, or just kind sit this one out for the next study?

Whatever you decide is fine by me. I'd hate to come off like I was discrediting the writer, because if it becomes a pattern with me that might seem to discourage continuing to do these studies at all, and that's not it with me. I love discussing the word, I just have my own views on things after years (decades actually) of study, so I may come off as too contradictory and disrupt the flow of things, depending on how my interaction was viewed.

No you shed good light in that last study. I don't know how others feel, but I like to be aware of things and hear others thoughts. If it helps in this battle against this dumb flesh, go right ahead! It is why I decided to do the studies separately. People can continue discussing at leisure. I just liked the topic.
 
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No you shed good light in that last study. I don't know how others feel, but I like to be aware of things and hear others thoughts. If it helps in this battle against this dumb flesh, go right ahead! It is why I decided to do the studies separately. People can continue discussing at leisure. I just liked the topic.

And this is why I really like you as a sister. :)

I will try to get to something later. I take almost the exact opposite position as they do, but I do feel it is the better answer to how to deal with sin, especially sins of the flesh like Paul was talking about in Colossians 3:5.

Thanks for leaving things open. You will have more response to these studies if you allow people to respond according to their own interpretations of the passages. Leads to more personal growth as well, because everyone has to think, and ask themselves what makes the most sense to them. ;)
 
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Just to go off your thought on giving things up and things for suitable entertainment, I found it hard to give up forums... I think because I do like talking to friends and stuff on here and there are tons of encouraging things on here... It is also a great way to encourage others also and tell others the good news of the gospel. I've gotten distracted a lot by negative news though... and for years forums were for recovery support before I got help offline. I can't handle some topics without feeling heavily burdened... And some topics just feel like I hear a lot of voices instead of God's voice... So I think what helped is deciding to avoid those topics. And if I don't and start getting upset, to go to the encouraging verses and start posting praise. It just really lifts my spirit. But worry is sin. And anxiety is my greatest temptation, which is lack of faith. Always has been. But God has been transforming my mind. Pretty soon I hope faith and no fear will be my greatest strength.

What I have a hard time doing, is the heavy hearted topics I probably do need to think about on occasion, laying them down at God's feet instead of worrying about them. Like vaccines... If and when to get them. It took awhile to decide not too, but had to decide and put my family in God's hands. My husband prefers not, so that was a deciding factor also. But it isn't the only topic. Like my kids and their futures too... Just things like that.

I have temptations and other sins too, but they just pale in comparison to worry. I have just truly felt the breath of God in my life lately... Confidence and strength. My kids will need that from mom too. So yeh balance... And constantly feeding on the Word of God... I didn't realize how battle scriptures would be handy in fighting worry. Instead of being afraid and angry at situations, I need to be angry at the enemy. When I stand up to him, I notice my flesh tends to get in line too.
When you're a mom you don't always have the time to do everything you want and go out with people like we used to be able to - especially with coronavirus stuff.

The Bible says that we need fellowship with other believers and tells us to be with others as we see approach the day coming!

"And let us not neglect our meeting together, as some people do, but encourage one another, especially now that the day of his return is drawing near."

Hebrews 10:25

So it's good to have it around!

But it is also good to take breaks and I have to all of the time. Lol! And the heavy stuff is heavy, so I had to start avoiding it too.

The Lord has been good to us and he his faithful. He will lead us in confidence and help us make the right decisions, even with breaks. Let thy word be a lamp to thy feet.
 
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When you're a mom you don't always have the time to do everything you want and go out with people like we used to be able to - especially with coronavirus stuff.

The Bible says that we need fellowship with other believers and tells us to be with others as we see approach the day coming!

"And let us not neglect our meeting together, as some people do, but encourage one another, especially now that the day of his return is drawing near."

Hebrews 10:25

So it's good to have it around!

But it is also good to take breaks and I have to all of the time. Lol! And the heavy stuff is heavy, so I had to start avoiding it too.

The Lord has been good to us and he his faithful. He will lead us in confidence and help us make the right decisions, even with breaks. Let thy word be a lamp to thy feet.

Amen sister!!!! I was losing it last month I feel like, but April showers bring May flowers! LOL God is just so good. Praise His Name!!!!