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Show me when I EVER said "my spirit cannot sin".You said your spirit cannot sin.
It’s “ HIS” Spirit, the Holy Spirit That cannot Sin......” My” Spirit—- My Old Adamic Nature— sins every hour of every day....
If one is Born Again, His Nature is Two-Fold .....the Old Nature sins and loves it....for the New Nature , sin is an impossibility
You said "your type"--that is an accusation, and by your own standard you cannot do that. I was just holding you to your own standard, which exposes not my hypocrisy but your own hypocrisy!Wanna talk about those pesky “ Sins Of Omission” that your type wants to “ sweep under the rug?”
Stop being an accuser of the brethren. LOL
As I figured....it happens “ALL” jof the time.....you DONT want to Talk about it....
You can’t.....It exposes your False Doctrine.....
"His Spirit" is NOT your spirit, not even "the new creation". The Holy Spirit is not a creature (that is, the Spirit cannot be what "new creation" refers to)--the Holy Spirit is GOD.It’s “ HIS” Spirit, the Holy Spirit That cannot Sin
If one reads scriptures he will have knowledge of what the true Christian is like. And one such knowledge is that he have faith that comes from God that abides and continues to the end. And that is what I believe. So that, any one who claims to be a Christian who does not have such faith could not be a true Christian.Since you are stating a doctrinal belief and not scripture, of course that is compatible with your particular doctrinal belief.Tong2020 said: ↑
The true Christian have true faith, faith that abides and continues to the end.
The question is, is the idea that he could stop believing compatible with that?
"His Spirit" is NOT your spirit, not even "the new creation". The Holy Spirit is not a creature (that is, the Spirit cannot be what "new creation" refers to)--the Holy Spirit is GOD.
So when you said "we have a dual nature--old nature loves sinning but the new nature cannot sin"--that "new nature" is NOT the Holy Spirit!
This is why I'm saying you mean well, and you're coming from a good place, but you're completely mixed up! You get everything tangled up!
<<<I believe there really are some Christians who will never go back to unbelief no matter what.>>>And that's great. I'm not trying to take that away from you. I believe there really are some Christians who will never go back to unbelief no matter what. The mistake is to broad stroke all true believers as being those who will never deny Christ no matter what simply because they have faith. If that were true the believing/saved Galatians would not have been in denial of Christ in regard to justification, and the Corinthians would have stuck to the original gospel of a risen savior by which they were saved. And the believers in the Hebrew church would not have had to be warned in the manner that they were about denying Christ and going back to Judaism.Tong2020 said: ↑
On the other hand, I, by faith, believe I won’t lose my salvation, because I already made my final decision and have settled it in my heart
Well, I never really got to consider what is life before I knew Christ. I was just living my life ignorant of enslavement of sin and resting in God.Did you forget what life before Christ was like, and why you got born again?Tong2020 said: ↑
Rest from the cruel taskmaster and enslavement of sin? Why do you say cruel? Why do you say enslavement?
No. As I said, before coming to the knowledge about the truth, I just live my life, ignorant of the truths I now have knowledge of. So I really have no burden of trying to save myself.Yes! That's why I got saved, lol. And now I'm at rest in Christ from those things. Aren't you?Tong2020 said: ↑
Before being in Christ, were you in burden of trying to save (from what) yourself? Were you tired of serving sin?
The Jews were "saved" by the blood of the lamb... and still fell under God's wrath for sinning.Depends on how much grace I have at the time. Thank God I haven't watched porn in years.
Most American "Christians" do watch porn--and they're going to Hell....
Thanks for the Clarification Of your True Beliefs.....Not watching Porn ( your Performance ) is what Saves....NOT the Blood Of Jesus ....
Well, Jesus (I know He's only the Savior but hear me out) says adultery of the heart makes you worthy of hell fire in Matthew 5. He never mentioned stepping on a worm. In fact He ate lamb.Is watching Porn a special type of sin that could never be covered by the Blood ? Surely there must be others.....accidentally stepping on a worm, perhaps
1. My "performance" is by God's grace through faith in Him. "By my God, I can run upon a troop." You say you need grace... but you're really talking about mercy : you need mercy because you plan on sinning. I want grace to KEEP me from sinning. It's not within my ability, it's within God's ability--"yet not I but the grace with me". Grace isn't "in vain" in my life, it produces "fruit in keeping with repentance". "A good tree bears good fruit".If you put forth what “ YOU” did and didn’t do.....in other words, your Performance ( AKA “Self Righteousness” ) come Judgement Day .....as opposed to Worshipping the One with the PERFECT PERFORMANCE that could have Saved you had you put your. Faith in Him instead of yourself, you are going to be among this that hear, “ Depart From me— I Never knew you” ......you got Christianity back- asswards....you are in Serious Jeopardy.....
Ohh... so the Holy Spirit IS your spirit? You're God?I am content to let the readers of these posts decide who is “tangled up”
Give some people enough rope and they will hang themselves..... by all means.....continue with your beliefs.....you are your own worst enemy ....
Yet Paul says "do not even eat with someone who claims to be a believer but lives in immorality". I do not befriend Christians who watch porn except perhaps as a ministry to reach out to make them turn away from their sin.Hitler murdered Six Million Jews....that is far worse than viewing porn, yet Poor Adolph is in Hell as we speak NOT for his Murders.He is Hell tonight for one reason , just as all of Hell’s Denizens are— UNBELIEF......Neither Porn nor murder nor any other sin sends people to Hell—— it’s the Rejection Of God's Remedy for Sin that sends people to Hell.....A lifetime Rejection Of The Gospel ....a Refusal to “ Turn to God ( Repentance) with Faith in Jesus Christ” is what sends people to Hell.Jesus took care of the Sin Issue 2000 years ago....He did the Work.....ALL OF IT .....its us up to Us to “ cash in” on what Jesus accomplished by Himself.....Hitler’s Sins were paid for at the Cross.....his mistake was not “ cashing in” on what had already been done for him.....
Porn Viewers? All they have to do is Turn to God as a Lost Sinner like the Sinful Publican did , saying with a Contrite Heart, “Lord, have Mercy on me a Sinner” ......That Prayer got an evil Tax Collector Saved—- it will work for Porn Viewers also.....
Yes, a porn viewer can repent... but after they are "saved" from their sin, then they had better not go back to the sin!Hitler murdered Six Million Jews....that is far worse than viewing porn, yet Poor Adolph is in Hell as we speak NOT for his Murders.He is Hell tonight for one reason , just as all of Hell’s Denizens are— UNBELIEF......Neither Porn nor murder nor any other sin sends people to Hell—— it’s the Rejection Of God's Remedy for Sin that sends people to Hell.....A lifetime Rejection Of The Gospel ....a Refusal to “ Turn to God ( Repentance) with Faith in Jesus Christ” is what sends people to Hell.Jesus took care of the Sin Issue 2000 years ago....He did the Work.....ALL OF IT .....its us up to Us to “ cash in” on what Jesus accomplished by Himself.....Hitler’s Sins were paid for at the Cross.....his mistake was not “ cashing in” on what had already been done for him.....
Porn Viewers? All they have to do is Turn to God as a Lost Sinner like the Sinful Publican did , saying with a Contrite Heart, “Lord, have Mercy on me a Sinner” ......That Prayer got an evil Tax Collector Saved—- it will work for Porn Viewers also.....
The believing is one that abides and continues. It not as though I believe just for today but only until today, and I already am saved because of that.And you would disagree with Jesus....Tong2020 said: ↑
If it is as you say, then I disagree with him on that.
“ If you Believe in me , you “ALREADY HAVE” Eternal Life and shall NEVER come under Condemnation....
I “ Believed”, therefore, I HAD it.Eternal Life. NOTHING from that point forward can change that .....Jesus said that “NOTHING in the FUTURE” could take me out of His Father’s Grasp.....” Nothing” would include even “ ME” ......anything that changed after I once Believed would have to occur in the “ Future”, right? Right. I’m Justified.....My Sins are Covered by Grace...Despite myself.....
“If we are Unfaithful, He remains Faithful....”
Yeah.....I can scarcely believe it myself.....yet....it’s Scriptural .....I am not even sure that a True Believer can fall into real Unbelief......If one does fall into Error like this , I think that God will bring them back to their senses before they die....Theoretically , I think Scripture supports that He doesn’t HAVE to....”God Remains Faithful” .......Amazing Grace.....
Nice to hear that you have such faith. It is assuring unlike any other, isn’t it?Nope, I was born a sinner but I will die a "saint" technically speaking.