Bible alone

[CadyandZoe]

all valid councils are apostolic
Under the authority of Christ

Not according to the scriptures. I believe the scriptures, not the councils.

 

[theefaith]

Baptism isn't a sacrament. Sanctification is something God does on his own, without a physical means to prompt him.

Spiritual anarchy

Jn 3:5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.

 

[theefaith]

I think you are confusing "metaphorical" with "spiritual."

There not her biological children
What else is there but spiritual?

 

[theefaith]

Not according to the scriptures. I believe the scriptures, not the councils.

that’s a laugh

I’ve presented tons on scriptures you refuse to believe

 

[GracePeace]

Luther “Faith alone” is another gospel

1 Timothy 4:1
Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;

latter times 1500 yrs after christ

I reject "faith alone".

 

[GracePeace]

And Christ who appointed them?

Christ apportioned them in the same way He apportioned satanic high priests--yeah, He controls everything.

 

[GracePeace]

the one true church is built by Christ not the father Matt 16:18

Christ can do nothing apart from the Father.

 

[GracePeace]

what good is scripture if you don’t believe it?

Then tell me what is the true church?

You believe in an invisible Church--you said the current Pope isn't part of the Church--just like Protestants.

 

[theefaith]

You believe in an invisible Church--you said the current Pope isn't part of the Church--just like Protestants.

i believe in the papacy thats the difference

 

[GracePeace]

i believe in the papacy thats the difference

Irrelevant.

 

[Wrangler]

i believe in the papacy thats the difference

Yup.

 

[theefaith]

Yup.

what God has joined together let not man put asunder

Christ and His holy church

jn 15:5
Eph 5:24

 

[Wrangler]

what God has joined together let not man put asunder

Christ and His holy church

jn 15:5
Eph 5:24

Yes but ‘His holy church’ does not begin nor end with the RCC denomination.

 

[atpollard]

I reject "faith alone".

Ephesians 2:1-10 didn’t ask your opinion.

[NKJV] And you He made alive, who were dead in trespasses and sins, in which you once walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit who now works in the sons of disobedience, among whom also we all once conducted ourselves in the lusts of our flesh, fulfilling the desires of the flesh and of the mind, and were by nature children of wrath, just as the others.
But God, who is rich in mercy, because of His great love with which He loved us, even when we were dead in trespasses, made us alive together with Christ (by grace you have been saved), and raised us up together, and made us sit together in the heavenly places in Christ Jesus, that in the ages to come He might show the exceeding riches of His grace in His kindness toward us in Christ Jesus. For by grace you have been saved through faith, and that not of yourselves; it is the gift of God, not of works, lest anyone should boast. For we are His workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared beforehand that we should walk in them.

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“God does as He pleases, and He does it right well” Corrie Ten Boon

 

[GracePeace]

Ephesians 2:1-10 didn’t ask your opinion.

“God does as He pleases, and He does it right well” Corrie Ten Boon

Not the topic. There are an infinite number of threads where that is discussed.

 

[atpollard]

Not the topic. There are an infinite number of threads where that is discussed.

And yet YOU chose to bring it up in THIS thread, or I could not have responded to your rejection of “faith alone”.

 

[GracePeace]

And yet YOU chose to bring it up in THIS thread...

Sorry that you chose not to read and thus misunderstood.
That has got nothing to do with me.

 

[atpollard]

Sorry that you chose not to read and thus misunderstood.
That has got nothing to do with me.

Perhaps you could point out what I failed to read and explain how I misunderstood?

Luther “Faith alone” is another gospel

1 Timothy 4:1
Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;

latter times 1500 yrs after christ

I reject "faith alone".

Ephesians 2:1-10 didn’t ask your opinion.

[NKJV] And you He made alive, who were dead in trespasses and sins, in which you once walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit who now works in the sons of disobedience, among whom also we all once conducted ourselves in the lusts of our flesh, fulfilling the desires of the flesh and of the mind, and were by nature children of wrath, just as the others.
But God, who is rich in mercy, because of His great love with which He loved us, even when we were dead in trespasses, made us alive together with Christ (by grace you have been saved), and raised us up together, and made us sit together in the heavenly places in Christ Jesus, that in the ages to come He might show the exceeding riches of His grace in His kindness toward us in Christ Jesus. For by grace you have been saved through faith, and that not of yourselves; it is the gift of God, not of works, lest anyone should boast. For we are His workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared beforehand that we should walk in them.

​

“God does as He pleases, and He does it right well” Corrie Ten Boon

Not the topic. There are an infinite number of threads where that is discussed.

And yet YOU chose to bring it up in THIS thread, or I could not have responded to your rejection of “faith alone”.

 

[GracePeace]

Perhaps you could point out what I failed to read and explain how I misunderstood?

The thread was authored by a Roman Catholic with the intention of assailing the "Protestant" view of Scripture (by which Catholicism's "authoritative" "holy tradition" is rejected).

That is the topic of discussion.

I was defending my view, and assailing their view.

They responded "Luther taught falsely".

I agreed.

I was prepared to move on.

You butted in and tried opening a completely different topic than the one the author intended.

EVERY thread on this board turns into that same old discussion.

I'm NOT INTERESTED in doing that. I like ORDER.

 

[atpollard]

They responded "Luther taught falsely".
I agreed.

You and they are wrong.
When you proclaim false beliefs loudly, they become hard to ignore.

It is not like you or the RC had actually been talking TO each other for 25 pages.
Leave the reformation out of topics if you don’t want rebuttal from reformers.